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Offline Easthaven

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sooo... is this worth $7,000
« on: August 07, 2015, 01:41:02 AM »
So a litlle recap our boat was involved in a dui accident first 30 min of purchase and was tossed from the trailer onto its side i a ditch and been in the shop for a year. it was supposed to be getting the hull completely redone top and bottom fixin all the scrapes, gouges and getting repainted gel coated. i picked up our boat today and very disappointed in the workmanship... i am wondering if i am alone in my disgust as i picked up the boat... basically dude has had it a year and has missed deadline after deadline and done very little in repairs. i paid him 4k 4 months in and still very little work, early on it was ok because i was in a hoa and would have to store my boat at a storage facility, but with him it was free. we've been talking once a month when i call for update, every time "yeh man hoping we get it done by ......" i finally sent the guy a FB message (ultimatum) saying i was going to pick it up on thursday (today) and no matter where we are at in the repairs of lower unit im going to have to bring it home as im running out of money.  i show up and my back bench seat not bolted down flopping in the back seat and most of the boats accessories ie.. rails, bow tie downs, antennae, radio, dash, transom tie hooks were missing and  not installed. the boat was in the parking lot in the ready to exit position and seemingly half dressed. as i walked up to it i saw my boat cover 100yards away on a 4 wheeler, i go in speak with my boat guy and shoot the shtuff, ask him to bolt my bench down and ask about the final price since the original work order given was for a trailer rebuild (my trailer was broken at every joint/rib, cross brace, had to duct tape it to get it to shop) and when i see it he just fixed my wrecked trailer. so im wondering if the 800$ still stands or if it is a lower amount, he states that he worked in that amount into the hull as it was a huge labor intensive deal. i really wasn't about to argue with the guy even tho we had an agreed price for the trailer, bottom and top but he owns my own property until i pay him and knew in the back of my head i was thinking of taking him to court as the condition of the boat i had partly not in super detail checked out. as we went out to look at it he told me about the front end damage, that he hit the brace at the front of the trailer with the front of the boat and we would fix that in what i call "phase 2" (i have different phases that im allowing myself to do on this boat according to cash on hand).... i noticed paint runs here and there and a chalky white substance on my fingers on parts of the boat that do not have that shine nor slick to them, sections of it  feel chalky and textured and have a almost unpainted color like no clear coat was applied. and whats up with all the scratches! and those 2 circular things hanging off my outboard lower???  i had to ask him about my 2 spare tires and rims, as well as the tote of accessories tie hooks, spare prop and so on like he trying to keep all of it and hope i wouldnt remember. so here are the pics let me know what you guys think! did this guy do a good job? in total we paid him just shy of $7,000... the breakdown was 1500 for top sand. paint gel coat, 2400 for bottom fix gouges/scrapes paint gel coat, another 800 for trailer, 2200 for engine and parts.
« Last Edit: August 07, 2015, 02:24:06 AM by Easthaven »
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Re: sooo... is this worth $7,000
« Reply #2 on: August 07, 2015, 02:18:11 AM »
please make sure you have your mouse on video area not clicking so you can see my comments. im taking it to a merc dealer tommorow and have the engine work he did to it verified and get their feelings on it....  we spent waaaay more on this than we wanted to, only to feel cheated.
« Last Edit: August 07, 2015, 02:25:40 AM by Easthaven »
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Offline nes-cv23

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Re: sooo... is this worth $7,000
« Reply #3 on: August 07, 2015, 06:22:41 AM »
Wow... Cheated is an understatement, is this the first time the guy ever saw a boat?  Everything I saw in the pictures is done wrong.   I hate to say it but, talk to a lawyer.
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Re: sooo... is this worth $7,000
« Reply #4 on: August 07, 2015, 06:39:43 AM »
Noticed in one of the pics it looks like the keel of the boat is sitting on the trailer.

If it is that should not be that way, maybe angle of the pic.

Other wise looks like maybe a talk with a lawyer.
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Re: sooo... is this worth $7,000
« Reply #5 on: August 07, 2015, 06:52:29 AM »
What year is your boat?  For $7000 you could have a fully restored model of your choosing.  It honestly doesn't look like your "boat guy" knows much about boats!!!  Lawyer, and withhold payment.  Hook up the trailer and get it out of there!

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Re: sooo... is this worth $7,000
« Reply #6 on: August 07, 2015, 07:37:48 AM »
Is the keel really resting on the trailer ?
He did more harm then good !

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Re: sooo... is this worth $7,000
« Reply #7 on: August 07, 2015, 07:46:32 AM »
I agree with all other statements. Looks like he has never touched a boat and has no idea what he is doing.

That's too bad. What a disappointment.
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Re: sooo... is this worth $7,000
« Reply #8 on: August 07, 2015, 08:02:20 AM »
       Disappointment would be an understatement, personally I would pursue some form of reimbursement, but you must first determine if the shop or person who performed these repairs is soluble to obtain any relief from.  Like others had commented, it does not appear that the repair facility had much experience in this type of work before.  I hate to see you build up a case with research and expert testimony only to find out the shop isn't properly licensed or insured to do the work.   It is a sad deal that unfortunately happens in many  different fields related to repair work, there are many whose only concern is that insurance check.   Having had similar experiences with home and auto repair companies, I know well the anger caused by overpromised and under delivered work, in several cases, I found it in my best interest to put it behind me because as the saying goes, "you cant get blood from a turnip"   I hope this turns out well for you, you have a challenge ahead of you.
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Re: sooo... is this worth $7,000
« Reply #9 on: August 07, 2015, 08:40:37 AM »
The shop is cyclewerks sports in dyersburg, tn I'm bout to hit the door to a merc dealer now and get it all looked at... I am... Well "have been" a small town business supporter, this guy does it all, been following him on FB for quite some time. I feel like this is a big middle finger to me... I didn't wanna start nothin up there, too old to go to jail for murder, just wanted to bring my boat home and seek "other" options. Very disappointed... There are scratches all over this thing! Like he took my $$$ and dumped a bucket of white paint on it.
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Re: sooo... is this worth $7,000
« Reply #10 on: August 07, 2015, 08:43:27 AM »
Yes the keel is on the trailer... Apparently that why he had a hard time getting it on the trailer and rammed the front brace... And didn't hear nothin nor see why it was so dang difficult to get that thing on the trailer from the water test... I am AWESTRUCK!!!
Adam Stevenson
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Re: sooo... is this worth $7,000
« Reply #11 on: August 07, 2015, 09:15:53 AM »
       Disappointment would be an understatement, personally I would pursue some form of reimbursement, but you must first determine if the shop or person who performed these repairs is soluble to obtain any relief from.  Like others had commented, it does not appear that the repair facility had much experience in this type of work before.  I hate to see you build up a case with research and expert testimony only to find out the shop isn't properly licensed or insured to do the work.   It is a sad deal that unfortunately happens in many  different fields related to repair work, there are many whose only concern is that insurance check.   Having had similar experiences with home and auto repair companies, I know well the anger caused by overpromised and under delivered work, in several cases, I found it in my best interest to put it behind me because as the saying goes, "you cant get blood from a turnip"   I hope this turns out well for you, you have a challenge ahead of you.

Solid advice above.

It is good your having another independent technician take a look at it.  Start making a list of things that are disappointing to you. 

Myself, I would go back to the original technician once you have settled down and see if he agrees to repair the items for no charge in a timely fashion.  Taking it back to him is debate able though, just because of the initial shoddy job.  But, before beginning any legal action give him an opportunity to correct the mistakes. 

It looks like you trusted this technician a little too much; I'm sure the second time around you will be visiting his shop at least every other day to view the progress.  Good luck.
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Re: sooo... is this worth $7,000
« Reply #12 on: August 07, 2015, 12:17:18 PM »
Wow, that is definitely grounds to get your money back (at least).  See if you can get a more established boat shop to give you a full estimate on the original repair/fixing whatever he did.  Sorry about your boat. 

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Re: sooo... is this worth $7,000
« Reply #13 on: August 07, 2015, 12:55:31 PM »
Holy cow...so sorry!  Take lots of pictures, I would see what your small claims max limit is and start there...after first talking to the shop.  Hopefully the motor / outdrive & trailer are ok so you only need to recover the cosmetic portion.

That would be (IMO) the best way to proceed.  Take lots of pictures...you can't have too many.
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« Reply #14 on: August 08, 2015, 08:32:37 AM »
Got 2 quotes yesterday for fiberglass repair and both are just over $3000, they said gel coat wasnt done looks like an automotive paint. Here are some shot of engine compartment.
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Re: sooo... is this worth $7,000
« Reply #15 on: August 08, 2015, 08:41:18 AM »
Check out my engine compartment before and after as well as my lower unit...
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Re: sooo... is this worth $7,000
« Reply #16 on: August 08, 2015, 08:59:32 AM »
WOW! That is just bad! boy he really did a number on your out drive!
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Re: sooo... is this worth $7,000
« Reply #17 on: August 08, 2015, 09:32:51 AM »
Agree with all said here. POOR workmanship to say the least and for that amount of money, it should look like new!
Hopefully you have more "before" pics showing what it looked like when you handed it over.
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Sorry to hear you have to deal with this crap. Been there, done that.
Is this outfit listed with the Better Business Bureau? You could contact your Attorney General and ask for some help there. They sent some letters on my behalf to the contractor I was dealing with.
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Re: sooo... is this worth $7,000
« Reply #18 on: August 08, 2015, 04:40:54 PM »
I contacted bbb... Went up to 3 boat shops none wanted to touch it. Still lookin for professional to verify engine work. I will try atty gen as well thanks! I'm already in a small claims court with due driver that wrecked the boat... He owns a ready mix company and sawmill and won't pay me the 3500$ the court awarded me so I got a lawyer ($1000 retainer fee) to exec order of writ sum of his "toys". I'd rather try and sue cyclewerks court costs and damages if I can then exec order of writ his "toys". We'll see... Getting tired of this boat and all the $$$ it costing. Love the boat! But LITERALLY from day one big headache!
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Re: sooo... is this worth $7,000
« Reply #19 on: August 08, 2015, 05:49:41 PM »
There is a glastron dealer 185mi from me... What are the chances they will help me out with a engine assessment? Their service dept will be open tommorow at 12p so ill call and ask at least!
« Last Edit: August 08, 2015, 05:52:07 PM by Easthaven »
Adam Stevenson
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1965 16' fibercraft
If you like something, get 2 of it!