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Offline redneckgearhead

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Newbie from MN
« on: April 21, 2018, 06:02:33 AM »
Hey everyone! Just wanted to say hi and say that I'm new to boats and just looked at and am going to purchase a 1979 hpv 165.  We live in Central MN and as soon as the ground dries out I'll be able to go pick up the boat.  It's missing it's windscreens but other than that it's in great shape. 

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Re: Newbie from MN
« Reply #1 on: April 21, 2018, 07:13:05 AM »
Welcome to the forum, look foreword to seeing more when you pick it up


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Re: Newbie from MN
« Reply #2 on: April 21, 2018, 09:02:31 AM »
Welcome to the forum ...
Boat looks to be in pretty good shape.
Is that a 115 HP on the stern ?
Looking forward to more pictures !

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Re: Newbie from MN
« Reply #3 on: April 21, 2018, 12:10:07 PM »
Welcome to the forum ...
Boat looks to be in pretty good shape.
Is that a 115 HP on the stern ?
Looking forward to more pictures !
It's a 1983 140.


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Re: Newbie from MN
« Reply #4 on: April 21, 2018, 12:15:07 PM »
Welcome to the forum, along with nicer weather, we hope to see some more pictures as you get your new treasure water ready.
Michael
1979 CVZ-18 388 CI Vortec Mouse
1980 CVX-16SS 140 Mercruiser
1979 CVX-16 Johnson 175
2002 Bennington 2275CC 90 Mercury
1985 Intimidator project
1989 Lowe 200 Redneck fishin Toon
2001 Godfrey Sweetwater pontoon 115 Rude

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Re: Newbie from MN
« Reply #5 on: April 23, 2018, 06:29:09 PM »
Thanks for the warm welcome!  Hopefully this beautiful weather we're having continues and Ill be able to pick up my boat this friday.  I received my Seloc repair/service manual from MarineEngine.com for the motor today and glancing through it, I am impressed with the detailed instruction.  I have been researching the needed maintenance that should be done on any new used boat.  The seller had it "serviced" last fall but I think I am going to change the oil in the lower unit, replace the impeller,  clean and inspect the wheel bearings and maybe clean the carbs just for my own peace of mind.  After I make certain it is mechanically as it should be I am going to turn my attention the cosmetic side of things.  Wanting to try and bring back some of the original shine with a cut and buff and I have found two new windshields but holy sticker shock, 185$ a side.  Ill post some pics when the time to pick it up arrives.       

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Re: Newbie from MN
« Reply #6 on: April 23, 2018, 07:25:04 PM »
Drain and inspect fuel tank, new fuel hose and primer bulb.
Is VRO disconnected ?

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Re: Newbie from MN
« Reply #7 on: April 23, 2018, 08:02:33 PM »
Drain and inspect fuel tank, new fuel hose and primer bulb.
Is VRO disconnected ?

Will add those to the list along with spark plugs.  The previous owner mixed the fuel so I am assuming the vro is disconnected, but have been told that 83 was the last year for non vro? 

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Re: Newbie from MN
« Reply #8 on: April 26, 2018, 03:29:34 PM »
Ok so tomorrow at noon I'm going to do a final inspection and hopefully bring it home. 

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Re: Newbie from MN
« Reply #9 on: April 26, 2018, 05:53:22 PM »
Stomp around on floor, looking for soft spot.
Poke around transom area with something sharp looking for rot, taking note of area's around thru bolt holes.
With trailer connected to car/truck and using care as not to hurt yourself, try to rip motor off transom, noting flex of transom.
Standing on cavitation plate jumping and pulling .. BUT be careful ...
Not the greatest test, but will show a very weak transom.

Check for cracks in fiberglass around transom and fiberglass covering inside of transom wood.
There was a crack in the fiberglass on my transom (white line top center of first picture) when I pushed on it, you could feel it was soft.
Ripped it off (second picture) and found the speedo pilot tube mounts had not been sealed and water got in and rotted wood. I was able to remove wood in that area with just my hands.

Hope boat checks out for you ...
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Re: Newbie from MN
« Reply #10 on: April 27, 2018, 06:28:56 AM »
Stomp around on floor, looking for soft spot.
Poke around transom area with something sharp looking for rot, taking note of area's around thru bolt holes.
With trailer connected to car/truck and using care as not to hurt yourself, try to rip motor off transom, noting flex of transom.
Standing on cavitation plate jumping and pulling .. BUT be careful ...
Not the greatest test, but will show a very weak transom.

Check for cracks in fiberglass around transom and fiberglass covering inside of transom wood.
There was a crack in the fiberglass on my transom (white line top center of first picture) when I pushed on it, you could feel it was soft.
Ripped it off (second picture) and found the speedo pilot tube mounts had not been sealed and water got in and rotted wood. I was able to remove wood in that area with just my hands.

Hope boat checks out for you ...
Yep, I looked at all that when I initially looked at the boat.  I was very impressed with how solid the boat is.  I tried to step on every inch of the floor.  Stuck my head in every compartment and tapped on any structure I could reach every compartment was dry and had no moldy musty smell.  I can see the inside of the transom and I looks great, no flex in it at all.  I'll double check everything in the light of day today. 

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Re: Newbie from MN
« Reply #11 on: April 27, 2018, 07:34:55 AM »
     Just wanted to second some parts of what Gregg stated and add a few comments.  Looks for cracks in the gel coat and fiberglass area throughout the craft.   Weakened stringers and floor will usually cause the rest of the boat to flex enough to make cracks in the high stress areas.   Second, a bit of poking around where any penetrations in the transom are located will help find the weak spots, water can find its way in through even screw penetrations for speedo's, depth gauges, etc.     And lastly, if everything feels fairly solid, don't be afraid to take note of the areas and go enjoy the season.   As you become more acclimated to your new treasure you will find other items that will need some attention, or maybe just the new owners touch. Some opt for more fishing attributes, while other may sway towards skiing/wakeboarding.   Bottom line, if the floor and transom aren't falling apart, which we sincerely hope not, don't jump into a major restoration until you and your boat have developed a sort of relationship.   Just my $0.02
Michael
1979 CVZ-18 388 CI Vortec Mouse
1980 CVX-16SS 140 Mercruiser
1979 CVX-16 Johnson 175
2002 Bennington 2275CC 90 Mercury
1985 Intimidator project
1989 Lowe 200 Redneck fishin Toon
2001 Godfrey Sweetwater pontoon 115 Rude

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Re: Newbie from MN
« Reply #12 on: April 27, 2018, 09:17:29 AM »
Some one on FB stated that the HPV had same hull as a CV.
Think he meant CVX hull ...
Is there a pad on your HPV ?
First picture is CV hull with rounded bottom.
Second picture is CVX / Metric hull with pad.

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Re: Newbie from MN
« Reply #13 on: April 27, 2018, 09:24:39 AM »
     Just wanted to second some parts of what Gregg stated and add a few comments.  Looks for cracks in the gel coat and fiberglass area throughout the craft.   Weakened stringers and floor will usually cause the rest of the boat to flex enough to make cracks in the high stress areas.   Second, a bit of poking around where any penetrations in the transom are located will help find the weak spots, water can find its way in through even screw penetrations for speedo's, depth gauges, etc.     And lastly, if everything feels fairly solid, don't be afraid to take note of the areas and go enjoy the season.   As you become more acclimated to your new treasure you will find other items that will need some attention, or maybe just the new owners touch. Some opt for more fishing attributes, while other may sway towards skiing/wakeboarding.   Bottom line, if the floor and transom aren't falling apart, which we sincerely hope not, don't jump into a major restoration until you and your boat have developed a sort of relationship.   Just my $0.02
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Re: Newbie from MN
« Reply #14 on: April 27, 2018, 09:25:50 AM »
1979 HPV165

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Re: Newbie from MN
« Reply #15 on: April 27, 2018, 09:35:41 AM »
More info

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Re: Newbie from MN
« Reply #16 on: April 27, 2018, 09:41:41 AM »
Some one on FB stated that the HPV had same hull as a CV.
Think he meant CVX hull ...
Is there a pad on your HPV ?
First picture is CV hull with rounded bottom.
Second picture is CVX / Metric hull with pad.
I'll look

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Re: Newbie from MN
« Reply #17 on: April 27, 2018, 10:00:16 AM »
Look here for windshield info ...
http://forum.cgoamn.com/index.php?topic=2901.0

You could make your own.
Wouldn't be to hard and WAY cheaper !

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Re: Newbie from MN
« Reply #18 on: April 27, 2018, 10:02:37 AM »
Look here for windshield info ...
http://forum.cgoamn.com/index.php?topic=2901.0

You could make your own.
Wouldn't be to hard and WAY cheaper !
I've considered that.  The design is far from complex.  Thanks for the link.

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Re: Newbie from MN
« Reply #19 on: April 27, 2018, 04:13:15 PM »
Some one on FB stated that the HPV had same hull as a CV.
Think he meant CVX hull ...
Is there a pad on your HPV ?
First picture is CV hull with rounded bottom.
Second picture is CVX / Metric hull with pad.
It is a cvx style hull with the pad.  I'll get some pictures of it posted soon.

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