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Offline Calvinator

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Lake Erie 1'-3' waves
« on: July 16, 2018, 04:18:34 PM »
Hello - new to this forum, but not new to many other forums (cars, RVs, iboats).  My previous boats have been 22' Wellcraft Eclipse, 28' Wellcraft scarab, and 32' double decker pontoon I rigged with a 1975 Merc 1500 Tower of Power. 

I am boatless now, but have $ ready for the next boat.  I've always liked the retro Glastron, so I am going to buy one.

The search is on!

18'-19'-20' model.
Would love Berkeley jet drive setup.
Outboard would be next preference.
Motor, trailer, interior, cosmetic projects OK.  No space for a stringer/transom project.

I live outside Sandusky, OH 10 mins from Lake Erie.  I would use the Glastron for near shore water-sports, 4 people typically in boat.  The family doesn't like rough water, so this boat will be used in calm conditions.

However, Lake Erie can kick up 1'-3' chop.  I will also be presented with 2' passing boat wakes.  Anyone with Glastron experience in these water conditions?  Concerned about broadside and water over the stern.  All the youtube videos I see have Glastrons running on inland lakes with flat water.  Must be nice!, just not where I live.

Thanks !!





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Re: Lake Erie 1'-3' waves
« Reply #1 on: July 16, 2018, 04:33:14 PM »
I would suggest not getting a jet if you want a smoother ride get an I/o or outboard.
I think this has become an addiction.


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Re: Lake Erie 1'-3' waves
« Reply #2 on: July 17, 2018, 09:38:55 AM »
Any of the Glastron's can handle an occasional large boat wake. If your on lake Erie with 1'-3' waves you are going to want one of the bigger cabin cruisers. The Glastron Carlson CV23 might seem like a big water boat but it is not. I've had a CV16SS, V172, and a CV23 all on lake superior but all with fairly calm conditions.

CV23 on Lake superior with gentle 2' rollers. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-9Jhk0W2XM

67' V172: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_A-pMuWm7I

74 CV16SS: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ie6dJxW8UgE&t=7s
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Re: Lake Erie 1'-3' waves
« Reply #3 on: July 17, 2018, 10:54:40 AM »
Welcome to the forum Calvinnator !
How about a 19CSS cuddy ?
I've never been in one but there deep V's and will hold 4 people.
Though a CV23 handled big water well, but then again I'm use to a CV16, which are very light and get bounced around.


You could come to the CGOAMN meet in Aug. and ride and /or drive some G/C's ...
http://forum.cgoamn.com/index.php?topic=7832.0


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Re: Lake Erie 1'-3' waves
« Reply #4 on: July 17, 2018, 03:36:15 PM »
Any of the Glastron's can handle an occasional large boat wake. If your on lake Erie with 1'-3' waves you are going to want one of the bigger cabin cruisers. The Glastron Carlson CV23 might seem like a big water boat but it is not. I've had a CV16SS, V172, and a CV23 all on lake superior but all with fairly calm conditions.



Thanks for the videos, they really show the water conditions and how the boat reacts.  About what I expected, the Glastron will get bounced around in the chop.  That is OK, the boat was made for flat water, speed, water sports.  When I buy one, I just have to use the boat in the correct conditions.

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Re: Lake Erie 1'-3' waves
« Reply #5 on: July 17, 2018, 03:40:06 PM »
I would suggest not getting a jet if you want a smoother ride get an I/o or outboard.

I have experience with the Ford 460, and the Berkeley jet is a toy I want to dabble with.

Is you comment about the jet because if you have a jet boat you'll run it fast -- and in the chop that is a rough ride (agree).

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is there something about the jet in slow speed conditions (to avoid a rough ride) where the jet doesn't perform vs. prop ?  Thanks -

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Re: Lake Erie 1'-3' waves
« Reply #6 on: July 17, 2018, 03:46:06 PM »
Welcome to the forum Calvinnator !
How about a 19CSS cuddy ?
I've never been in one but there deep V's and will hold 4 people.
Though a CV23 handled big water well, but then again I'm use to a CV16, which are very light and get bounced around.


19CSS....  disqualified....  no silver flake gelcoat!  The sparkle of the silver flake is #2 on my list of must haves for a boat  ;D

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Re: Lake Erie 1'-3' waves
« Reply #7 on: July 17, 2018, 04:33:48 PM »
Most of the classic Glastrons are made for a different use other than 3' chop.  Low sides are the indicator.  That being said, if that were the primary conditions I'd face, maybe a 27?  A 23 at the minimum.
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Re: Lake Erie 1'-3' waves
« Reply #8 on: July 17, 2018, 04:50:30 PM »
I have experience with the Ford 460, and the Berkeley jet is a toy I want to dabble with.

Is you comment about the jet because if you have a jet boat you'll run it fast -- and in the chop that is a rough ride (agree).

or

is there something about the jet in slow speed conditions (to avoid a rough ride) where the jet doesn't perform vs. prop ?  Thanks -

I ran a 23 with the 460 and a Berkley jet for almost 4 years. There is a night and day difference between the ride on my now 23 with an I/O. The jets have nothing to "hold" them in the water and you bounce a lot. Waves big or small you are always on top of them and not really cutting threw them. Maybe a diverter would have helped so you could have some trim to help with the ride.

Just my thoughts I ran 90% of the time on the Mississippi and St Croix rivers by Minneapolis. There are always boats with 2-4 ft wakes behind them.
I think this has become an addiction.


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Re: Lake Erie 1'-3' waves
« Reply #9 on: July 17, 2018, 05:07:53 PM »
I would have to agree with Shawn and the others the 23’s are fantastic boats but I too think they were made for going fast on smooth water. Your going to want something that has a deeper v in it than most of the cvx boats. The only ones I think might work for you if you want something classic with sparkle paint in the 18-20’ range I would look for a cvc-18 like this one. It has a deeper v in it and I think it could handle the 2-3’ chop. And a small cuddy for all the extras.   Or the 27 would be a good one also.
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Re: Lake Erie 1'-3' waves
« Reply #10 on: July 17, 2018, 11:16:23 PM »
I would have to agree with Shawn and the others the 23’s are fantastic boats but I too think they were made for going fast on smooth water. Your going to want something that has a deeper v in it than most of the cvx boats. The only ones I think might work for you if you want something classic with sparkle paint in the 18-20’ range I would look for a cvc-18 like this one. It has a deeper v in it and I think it could handle the 2-3’ chop. And a small cuddy for all the extras.   Or the 27 would be a good one also.

That's a CV-18SS, not a CVC-18.  I'd love to find a CVC-18...
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Re: Lake Erie 1'-3' waves
« Reply #11 on: July 18, 2018, 06:10:01 AM »
Oops miss print.. cv18-ss or a cvc-18.    ;)
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Re: Lake Erie 1'-3' waves
« Reply #12 on: July 18, 2018, 01:40:13 PM »
Try a CV23 and see how it works ..
CV27's are near imposable to find in good to excellent shape ..


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Re: Lake Erie 1'-3' waves
« Reply #13 on: July 18, 2018, 01:47:24 PM »
Next season we may part with the v215 Vagabond Camper, its driven pretty darn well for us so far on a lake that produces 20+mph winds.

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Re: Lake Erie 1'-3' waves
« Reply #14 on: July 18, 2018, 04:21:54 PM »
Thanks everyone for the great info.  I have a better perspective on the Glastron and the water conditions I will be in.  Good news is, I'm still going to buy a Glastron for flat-water watersports!

So now I have to find a 18' 19' 20' Glastron  ::)

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Re: Lake Erie 1'-3' waves
« Reply #15 on: July 18, 2018, 09:11:09 PM »
Thanks everyone for the great info.  I have a better perspective on the Glastron and the water conditions I will be in.  Good news is, I'm still going to buy a Glastron for flat-water watersports!

So now I have to find a 18' 19' 20' Glastron  ::)
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