Minnesota Classic Glastron Forum
General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: 75kona on September 11, 2018, 05:46:02 PM
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Howdy all! Over the weekend I went to look at a CV23. He said he was only the second owner of this local boat. From the pictures it looked too good to be true. Besides the typical sun fading on the bow the interior appeared to look like new. The white stuff you see on the bow is the left over wax he never wiped off, it came off at home and I think with a good polish I can bring back most of the shine back on the bow! When I saw it in person I couldn’t believe my eyes… Not a tear in sight nor any sun fading. In fact the material appears soft as if it had just been made! He even had the matching original privacy snap in screen for the cuddy as well as the original snap on cover.
We took it out for a test run on the river and it performed flawlessly. I was surprised how quickly it flattened out, as well as how fast it was able to go. We hit 55mph at top speed and there was a little left I’m sure. Every gauge and light worked. It’s almost as if we were taking it out for the first time ever! I shook his hand and made the deal before we even got to the dock! Not sure what these are worth, because there was nothing for sale close to gauge the price, but I feel like I might have paid a little too much. But I’m okay with that!
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Kind of hard to know if you paid too much when we don't know how much you gave for it, however, if it truly is in the shape you described, I'd put its value $8-10k. There is a lot of adjustment based on condition though, drive, engine, stringers, transom, etc. Bottom line is this, if you/family are happy with it, that is all that really matters. Hope you can make some great family memories.
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First off..... Welcome to the forum!
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Ditto on what Mike says. To find these boats that don't need interior or exterior work is a plus. Just get in and have fun. Nice score by the way.
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It was "The Hammond retirement edition."
CL ad is gone, saved from GCOTD thread.
I'd say ya got a good deal !
23 Glastron Carlson Jet Daycruiser - $5950 (Milwaukie)
https://portland.craigslist.org/clc/boa/d/23-glastron-carlson-jet/6683623595.html
Glastron Carlson 23. A handful of these special boats were built in 1977 to recognize the retirement of the founder of Glastron. Powered by a 460 Ford with Berkeley drive. This boat was one owner until I got it two seasons ago. It is fast and smooth. The interior is very good. The trailer is an EZ Loader tandem. I had it in the water today, it is ready for use. Call, Larry
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More pictures ..
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OH YA … Welcome to the forum 75Kona !
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welcome!
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I think I was misunderstood I didn't come here to find out how much it's worth but to show it off to other glastron lovers! And as im typing this I realize this is a forum for owners in Minnesota haha I'm in the PNW lol
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That boat is beautiful! Hard to find them as original as that one! Especially a CV23 that is typically stored outside. Hope I get to see it in person some day!
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I think I was misunderstood I didn't come here to find out how much it's worth but to show it off to other glastron lovers! And as im typing this I realize this is a forum for owners in Minnesota haha I'm in the PNW lol
Sort of a misconception that its just for owners in MN. We have members from around the world here. The National club has chapters and we're just the MN chapter. Unfortunately, the other chapters aren't very active...so please stay! We've had boats at our meet from (I think) 23 states?
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Thanks guys! Happy to be here!
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This is the most active G/C web site / forum ..
Member from around the whole country, Canada and Europe !
You also have one of the most popular G/C, was 10 at the meet.
Official 11th Anniversary Photo Thread!
http://forum.cgoamn.com/index.php?topic=7906.0 (http://forum.cgoamn.com/index.php?topic=7906.0)
Photo album.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/2PkPKbxS6UUe7PEi9 (https://photos.app.goo.gl/2PkPKbxS6UUe7PEi9)
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Congrats on picking up a nice looking 23. If you think that you paid too much, remember that a new 16' Alumacraft fishing boat with a 40hp outboard would cost you 19K. A boat with the style of a CV-23 ready to run is worth a lot more than whatever it likely cost.
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At $6k it's a good score. Folks from all over on this forum, I'm from Nebraska. In Portland you say, score some Fred from hair of the dog brewing company and I'd be forever in debt. Nice town, did a lot of work on steel bridge for uprr.
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Looking forward to being apart of an active group! I owned a 1975 Kona a few years ago (reason for my screen name) and had to sell it to put my wife through college. But now I'm back! I have always had my eye on a CV23 and the stars aligned when it was time for a new boat!
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Question for the knowledgeable. I have what I was told was the original horn. Its currently off because he was planning on taking everything off the bow to detail it. You can see where it was in the below picture next to the bow light as the gel coat is in way better condition. So it must have been there a while. Is this truly a factory position for a horn? Every cv23 I have seen in photos and brochures doesn’t appear to have one there. I’ll get a picture of the horn when I can. Its white and plastic and honestly kind of ugly.
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At $6k it's a good score. Folks from all over on this forum, I'm from Nebraska. In Portland you say, score some Fred from hair of the dog brewing company and I'd be forever in debt. Nice town, did a lot of work on steel bridge for uprr.
Thanks! I'm actually from Washington State, I drove down South to get it. He was the second owner, the first also being from Portland and owned the boat up until 2 years ago.
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Some of the Glastron models are shown in 1977 brochures with box horn.
It was the style they used from that time.
"Its white and plastic and honestly kind of ugly."
That is an understatement !
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I think the horn on the CV23 was a dealer add on. Never seems to be in the same location and I can't find it shown in the dealer brochures I looked through. On my 86 it's mounted on the side near driver. Pretty good location as it's out of the way. Having it on the bow seems like it would just gets in the way when crawling around up there.
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"Electric Horn" is listed as standard equipment on Glastron models.
Nothing listed on Carlson models, not even in options, on 1977 brochure / Saleman handbook
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It is ugly! And being on the bow does seem like a terrible spot for it. Here is a photo of it. It didn’t weather as nice as the boat did over time. I will be cleaning it up and putting it back on, one so its legal with a horn, and two so the hole in the bow is filled.
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Also got the boat under cover and out of the weather! Had to move a few cars around to do it though haha
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Also really excited he had the privacy curtain for the cuddy! I do have the lens for the light, I was just int he middle of replacing the bulb
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It is ugly! And being on the bow does seem like a terrible spot for it. Here is a photo of it. It didn’t weather as nice as the boat did over time. I will be cleaning it up and putting it back on, one so its legal with a horn, and two so the hole in the bow is filled.
Yep, that is a common horn on the Glastrons and glastron carlson boats
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Yep, that is a common horn on the Glastrons and glastron carlson boats
Thanks! I'll be putting it back on soon.
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I'd patch holes and go with something like Jason's horns.
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I'd patch holes and go with something like Jason's horns.
That will be the eventual goal. For now since the wiring is already ran it will be easier to just re install it. I don't know the first thing about fiberglass repair! But I'm willing to learn!
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For better or worse, I think that horn is gonna have to go back. The gel where it was hasn't faded one bit, the rest of the boat will have, so you'll never get that spot to blend in.
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I like that you still have the "Fun Fur" on the cabin ceiling.
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For better or worse, I think that horn is gonna have to go back. The gel where it was hasn't faded one bit, the rest of the boat will have, so you'll never get that spot to blend in.
I was thinking the same thing
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I like that you still have the "Fun Fur" on the cabin ceiling.
And its in perfect shape too!
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Your going to wet sand and compound the deck .. Aren't you ?
Might come back well enough to not see it …
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Your going to wet sand and compound the deck .. Aren't you ?
Might come back well enough to not see it …
I have never wet sanded anything before. What material or advice would you give? Also what compound and application do you recommend? I would absolutely love to put it in the shop this winter, fire up the wood stove, and get it as polished up as possible.
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Do a search for "Wet Sanding Gelcoat" .. Quite a few YouTube videos.
West Marine has some for Wet sanding and compounding.
Your sanding off the dull ruff top surface, then polishing the shine back.
Hardest part is figuring out what grit you should start with ...
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Do a search for "Wet Sanding Gelcoat" .. Quite a few YouTube videos.
West Marine has some for Wet sanding and compounding.
Your sanding off the dull ruff top surface, then polishing the shine back.
Hardest part is figuring out what grit you should start with ...
Thanks! Will be a winter project for sure. I was just running my hand over the hull last night and where the gel coat is shiny it was very smooth. The bow felt sorta rough and I was worried the clear had worn down and it wasn’t fixable without a respray. I guess we will see what this winter has in store for the bow! That will give me plenty of time to do the research to feel confident in doing it.
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Mine was pretty ruff .. but could tell flake wasn't coming thru.
Started with 800 grit, 1200, 1500, 2000, compound, finesse it 2 then wax.
Used power hand sander for wet sanding.
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Cant really tell ya what grit to use, all depends on the condition of the existing finish. If you cut too far, it turns the flake silver as you cut the color off the mylar. I'd prob start with 1000 and go slowly using plenty of water in a fairly inconspicuous location. Personally, I'd recommend a lot of couch surfing, look over the threads and other internet sources and videos before jumping into it. And just for safety, if ya plan to work on it in a shed with a wood burner, make sure you get the fuel out of it, the bilge can trap fuel and vapor for a long time. Go enjoy it for now, plenty of time over the winter to make pretty.
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Mine was pretty ruff .. but could tell flake wasn't coming thru.
Started with 800 grit, 1200, 1500, 2000, compound, finesse it 2 then wax.
Used power hand sander for wet sanding.
Wow that looks awesome! I’m afraid if it’s too far gone that sanding will do more harm than good and ill be forced to respray. But at that point it should be done anyway.
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Cant really tell ya what grit to use, all depends on the condition of the existing finish. If you cut too far, it turns the flake silver as you cut the color off the mylar. I'd prob start with 1000 and go slowly using plenty of water in a fairly inconspicuous location. Personally, I'd recommend a lot of couch surfing, look over the threads and other internet sources and videos before jumping into it. And just for safety, if ya plan to work on it in a shed with a wood burner, make sure you get the fuel out of it, the bilge can trap fuel and vapor for a long time. Go enjoy it for now, plenty of time over the winter to make pretty.
How long do you think it will take to get that final finish? I will definitely be enjoying for now. I have a few small projects in mind for the winter.
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Just try some "Heavy Compound" first and see what happens, or start with 1500 grit.
You can alway go to courser grits. Do small areas.
Gel is pretty thick stuff, just go easy around corners and edges.
One member has tinted clear gel, to bring back color.
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Just try some "Heavy Compound" first and see what happens, or start with 1500 grit.
You can alway go to courser grits. Do small areas.
Gel is pretty thick stuff, just go easy around corners and edges.
One member has tinted clear gel, to bring back color.
Thanks for the info. Im excited by the thought of it being able to be brought back to life.
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Search and read into how boats are made …
Heavy coat of "CLEAR" gel, or multiple coats are shot into mold which is what your sanding and compounding on.
Then a thin coat of flake is shot, which give it it's color.
You just want to knock off that dull top layer, then get finer and finer grit's to bring back deep shine.
That spot where horn was is what your going for .. Use it as your bench mark ..
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I removed my bow light and went by color under light, to see how close I could get to new ..
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Last question for the day ;D My boat has a rear facing seat that is fixed. I noticed a boat that has a jump seat that folds away. I’m assuming both are factory, but which one was more popular? Thanks! Below is a picture of my seat and the boat in question.
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WOW ! Never saw that ?
Not sure if it was even an option ?
Your interior was jet only, I/O's were different ..
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WOW ! Never saw that ?
Not sure if it was even an option ?
Your interior was jet only, I/O's were different ..
Weird right? I know the owner of the boat from a different forum and his is also a jet like mine. He had never seen a rear facing seat like mine. But I found several brochures showing my style seat and non of his. His is a 78 model while mine is a 77.
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I am taking my boat in to get professionally winterized tomorrow. The winters sneak up around the PNW and I dont want to take any chances. They claim they will drain, fill with antifreeze, fog, put fuel stabilizer in the gas, as well as do an oil change. I thought the price of $150 was a little steep. I will be more comfortable with it next year i imagine to do it myself. Does anyone else here take theirs in to get done? or am I just a wuss? :o
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I am taking my boat in to get professionally winterized tomorrow. The winters sneak up around the PNW and I dont want to take any chances. They claim they will drain, fill with antifreeze, fog, put fuel stabilizer in the gas, as well as do an oil change. I thought the price of $150 was a little steep. I will be more comfortable with it next year i imagine to do it myself. Does anyone else here take theirs in to get done? or am I just a wuss? :o
$150 isn't terrible for the work involved.
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That boat is beautiful! Hard to find them as original as that one! Especially a CV23 that is typically stored outside. Hope I get to see it in person some day!
Jason I was looking at a thread of yours from a couple years ago and you have a picture of a full enclosed soft top on your boat. can you share more of those!? I would love to see more photos of the boat with it up as well as know where you got it!?
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I have an outboard .. But if you don't feel confident doing it, $150 is cheap insurance.
I've used this stuff for a few years now, it work well. Kept gas good for over a year in my gas can for lawn mower / blower / snowblower / etc. I put it in anything that will not be used for two weeks or more.
Star Tron Enzyme Fuel Treatment.
http://www.starbrite.com/item/star-tron-gasoline-fuel-additive?category_id=585 (http://www.starbrite.com/item/star-tron-gasoline-fuel-additive?category_id=585)
You can get it at most home, auto and big box stores.
I've never had good luck with Stabil.
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Jason I was looking at a thread of yours from a couple years ago and you have a picture of a full enclosed soft top on your boat. can you share more of those!? I would love to see more photos of the boat with it up as well as know where you got it!?
Steven, I sent you you an email with more pictures of the camper top.
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Steven, I sent you you an email with more pictures of the camper top.
Thanks, Looks great!
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I have a set of White vinyl Bimini and camper top if I remember. It was on My 23 when bought it. Im not putting it back on. I would sell it if anyone is interested. I can get pics if needed.
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I have a set of White vinyl Bimini and camper top if I remember. It was on My 23 when bought it. Im not putting it back on. I would sell it if anyone is interested. I can get pics if needed.
Interested.
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I have a set of White vinyl Bimini and camper top if I remember. It was on My 23 when bought it. Im not putting it back on. I would sell it if anyone is interested. I can get pics if needed.
I sent you a PM.
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I have a set of White vinyl Bimini and camper top if I remember. It was on My 23 when bought it. Im not putting it back on. I would sell it if anyone is interested. I can get pics if needed.
I dont show a message in my sent folder. If you could message me with your contact information that would be great. Thanks!
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I had someone else message me before you if they don't take it Ill be in contact.
Its in pretty good shape. A few stains and the clear glass part is cloudy with a couple cracks. The biminni is in pretty good shape except one of the fitting however you can buy them pretty cheap. It is set up to go on the forward facing windshield. I have my old windshield that has all the holes drilled where the snaps were installed. The drivers side half has one crack other than that it is in good shape. I can include the windshield in the sale if it is needed or wanted.
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I had someone else message me before you if they don't take it Ill be in contact.
Its in pretty good shape. A few stains and the clear glass part is cloudy with a couple cracks. The biminni is in pretty good shape except one of the fitting however you can buy them pretty cheap. It is set up to go on the forward facing windshield. I have my old windshield that has all the holes drilled where the snaps were installed. The drivers side half has one crack other than that it is in good shape. I can include the windshield in the sale if it is needed or wanted.
No worries! Keep me posted if you will.
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Looks nice! Looks a lot like mine.
FYI: In the last picture that shows the shady repair you can still buy the fittings the original plastic fittings. I had to replace one of mine.
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I am guessing mine looks very similar. Not sure though I never installed it.
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Sad day. The boat is officially winterized, covered, and stored.
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We have a little time left, maybe plan one or two more local trips. I generally make Halloween the cutoff date for summer activities.