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Offline Hyperacme

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Re: My "72" CV16 Restoration
« Reply #40 on: October 30, 2018, 04:39:02 PM »
No .. mine were in good shape, must have been stainless steel studs.

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Re: My "72" CV16 Restoration
« Reply #41 on: October 30, 2018, 04:40:37 PM »
I think mine are studs? I’ll look when I get home. Either way soaking with pb blaster and using an ez out should work. Then I’d just use bolts. If you break yours I think I have an extra set. You could always bring it to a machine shop and have them put in a helicoil, too.
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Re: My "72" CV16 Restoration
« Reply #42 on: October 30, 2018, 05:39:15 PM »
Did you / can you get the old stud out ?
I would find a SS bolt about the same length, cut head off and use some red loctite if threads are intact or JB weld stud in if threads are bad.

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Re: My "72" CV16 Restoration
« Reply #43 on: October 30, 2018, 05:42:24 PM »
I can't get it out without drilling it out. It's rusted in there and it broke right at the edge. One mount didn't break so I can probably get that one out but if I've gotta tap new threads in one i may as well do both so they're the same size.
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Re: My "72" CV16 Restoration
« Reply #44 on: October 30, 2018, 06:10:34 PM »
If the other stud is OK .. I wouldn't mess with it.
If it ain't broken .. don't fix it !

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Re: My "72" CV16 Restoration
« Reply #45 on: October 30, 2018, 07:18:03 PM »
Could very well be standard hardware, especially considering rust.  Getting it out might be difficult, but there are plenty of options.  In most cases where I have a broken studs in aluminum, I will TIG weld a nut to the stud.  MIG works nearly as well, but makes more splatter.  Let it cool a few minutes, then turn back and forth till it loosens up.  Sometimes you have to repeat if the nut turns off.  There really is no worse case here, if ya really bugger up the hole, drill it out and use larger hardware, or weld it shut and re tap.  Just a thought, a toilet seat hardware kit(brass and plastic) would likely never be an issue.  If you really get stuck, I could help, only cost materials and mailing.
Michael
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Re: My "72" CV16 Restoration
« Reply #46 on: October 30, 2018, 07:38:33 PM »
I'd sent it to Mike !
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Re: My "72" CV16 Restoration
« Reply #47 on: October 30, 2018, 07:45:48 PM »
Do you have plans for the tow bar, I would be interested in buying the eye bolt that the bar arms click into.  They are the ones in the fiberglass in each side if the transom.

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Re: My "72" CV16 Restoration
« Reply #48 on: October 30, 2018, 07:59:40 PM »
That's a good idea on welding a nut on the stud Mike. I'll have to try that.

Joe I was planning on keeping it but we'll see if that stands in a few months. I'll let you know if I decide to let it go.

Bill
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Re: My "72" CV16 Restoration
« Reply #49 on: November 19, 2018, 07:17:19 AM »
Hey guys, do you know where I can find this piece in the picture?  It's the starboard corner piece of the rub rail on the transom.  When I removed it it broke in half.
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Re: My "72" CV16 Restoration
« Reply #50 on: November 19, 2018, 07:42:59 AM »
    Is it too corroded to consider welding, grinding, and polishing?    If not, hopefully you can find one.   
Michael
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Re: My "72" CV16 Restoration
« Reply #51 on: November 19, 2018, 07:46:21 AM »
it actually isn't corroded at all, I just think that it was bent when a previous owner removed it cause it had a small 'tear' where one of the rivets was.  When I was pulling it off the rivet must have snagged it and it broke in half like warm butter.  Is it aluminum?  My welder doesn't weld aluminum so I'd have to find someone to weld it together if it is.  I can weld steel.
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Re: My "72" CV16 Restoration
« Reply #52 on: November 19, 2018, 09:28:13 AM »
I purchased a pair of reproductions from Ray for the CV 16 that I sold the Shawn, it needed the the port side. So we may be able to help you out with that. Otherwise the information I got from Ray was that it’s kind a hard to work with this stuff but you have to use 356t rod.
So if you can’t find somebody there to weld it just let us kno.


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Re: My "72" CV16 Restoration
« Reply #53 on: November 19, 2018, 09:55:21 AM »
Thanks Joe.  I'm going to try and go by my mechanic and see if they can weld it or not, they are the only person near me that I know does welding with aluminum.  But if not I'll definitely be interested in Shawn's starboard side cause otherwise I'm gonna go with  replacing the whole strip with one of the more 'universal' ones which i don't really want to do since I have the original on it.
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Re: My "72" CV16 Restoration
« Reply #54 on: November 19, 2018, 09:59:24 AM »
     Certainly hoping you can locate one, if you do, I wouldn't mind trying to weld it just to know if it is possible.   In many cases, cast aluminum pieces cannot be welded, as soon as the torch starts, the material just crumbles.   This of course if the piece is likely to end up in scrap pile.    If it does/did weld acceptably, I'd send it back, then we would all know what is possible going forward.    Just a thought............

I wonder if it could be glued back together to sandcast a new piece?
Michael
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1980 CVX-16SS 140 Mercruiser
1979 CVX-16 Johnson 175
2002 Bennington 2275CC 90 Mercury
1985 Intimidator project
1989 Lowe 200 Redneck fishin Toon
2001 Godfrey Sweetwater pontoon 115 Rude

Offline Hyperacme

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Re: My "72" CV16 Restoration
« Reply #55 on: November 19, 2018, 11:05:24 AM »
Might be same rod Joe was referring to …

Aluminum Repair
http://forum.cgoamn.com/index.php?topic=2907.0

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Re: My "72" CV16 Restoration
« Reply #56 on: November 19, 2018, 11:25:34 AM »
I have never tried that so I’m not sure if that would work or not, the rod I was referring to is just a different alloy, same as most castings. Not sure about the original parts at the reproductions from Ray are cast from 356 and they have imperfections so they needed to be welded and re-sand it down


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Re: My "72" CV16 Restoration
« Reply #57 on: November 20, 2018, 07:03:01 AM »
So my mechanic doesn't think it's weldable.  I also didn't notice it until taking it to him but it was already bent when I went to take it off, where the hole for the rivet is it was bulged out so even if we could weld it back it would not follow the transom.  That rivet must have been holding it down pretty tight. 

You guys know if Shawn has that extra starboard one, or anywhere else I could find it.  I tried eBay with no luck.
1972 Glastron-Carlson CV16

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Re: My "72" CV16 Restoration
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Re: My "72" CV16 Restoration
« Reply #59 on: November 20, 2018, 11:32:24 AM »
Or rayar3 


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