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Offline Rosscoe

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Re: Its alive!
« Reply #20 on: July 28, 2017, 05:10:21 AM »
Yeah I did some research and discovered the existence of the high idle screw. Unfortunately mine doesn't seem to have one.
Yup the spring us pulling it back towards the idle screw. 
So even if the choke flap is open and it's idling fast, the external choke linkage could cause a fast idle? I thought the entire purpose of the linkage was to open the choke flap?
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61 Surflite 1964 90HP Johnson project
67 V163 Bayflite Super Sport  1989 100HP Merc
67 V164 Bayflite 120HP
67 V174 Crestflite Rat Rod
71 V175 Crestflite 350ci -Jet
73 GT 160
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Re: Its alive!
« Reply #21 on: July 28, 2017, 07:10:40 AM »
Sent you an email Ross.

Offline Plugcheck

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Re: Its alive!
« Reply #22 on: July 28, 2017, 07:26:41 AM »
Yeah I did some research and discovered the existence of the high idle screw. Unfortunately mine doesn't seem to have one.
Yup the spring us pulling it back towards the idle screw. 
So even if the choke flap is open and it's idling fast, the external choke linkage could cause a fast idle? I thought the entire purpose of the linkage was to open the choke flap?
The linkage provides a means to both richen the mixture with the choke butterfly, and to provide a higher idle speed for faster warm up. 
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Offline Rosscoe

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Re: Its alive!
« Reply #23 on: July 28, 2017, 05:52:33 PM »
So, can the butterfly be loose and still idle high due to the linkage? From what your saying I think yes. The choke linkage is free and moving but if there are other internal, then I don't know. Really trying to avoid a rebuild.
Ross
61 Surflite 1964 90HP Johnson project
67 V163 Bayflite Super Sport  1989 100HP Merc
67 V164 Bayflite 120HP
67 V174 Crestflite Rat Rod
71 V175 Crestflite 350ci -Jet
73 GT 160
84 CVX 17  83 115 Merc
88 CVX-23 350 Mag

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Re: Its alive!
« Reply #24 on: July 28, 2017, 05:53:19 PM »
Ross
61 Surflite 1964 90HP Johnson project
67 V163 Bayflite Super Sport  1989 100HP Merc
67 V164 Bayflite 120HP
67 V174 Crestflite Rat Rod
71 V175 Crestflite 350ci -Jet
73 GT 160
84 CVX 17  83 115 Merc
88 CVX-23 350 Mag

Offline Plugcheck

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Re: Its alive!
« Reply #25 on: July 28, 2017, 06:25:01 PM »
Should be nearly closed, not 100% like some carbs with idle bypass like Weber's and Dellortos.   
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1980 CVX-16SS 140 Mercruiser
1979 CVX-16 Johnson 175
2002 Bennington 2275CC 90 Mercury
1985 Intimidator project
1989 Lowe 200 Redneck fishin Toon
2001 Godfrey Sweetwater pontoon 115 Rude

Offline Rosscoe

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Re: Its alive!
« Reply #26 on: July 28, 2017, 06:26:21 PM »
That's about what it looks like.

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Ross
61 Surflite 1964 90HP Johnson project
67 V163 Bayflite Super Sport  1989 100HP Merc
67 V164 Bayflite 120HP
67 V174 Crestflite Rat Rod
71 V175 Crestflite 350ci -Jet
73 GT 160
84 CVX 17  83 115 Merc
88 CVX-23 350 Mag

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Re: Its alive!
« Reply #27 on: July 29, 2017, 07:26:49 AM »
I'll see if I can get some decent pics today.

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61 Surflite 1964 90HP Johnson project
67 V163 Bayflite Super Sport  1989 100HP Merc
67 V164 Bayflite 120HP
67 V174 Crestflite Rat Rod
71 V175 Crestflite 350ci -Jet
73 GT 160
84 CVX 17  83 115 Merc
88 CVX-23 350 Mag

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Re: Its alive!
« Reply #28 on: July 29, 2017, 07:41:42 PM »
Ok took some pics. I disconnected the heat riser apparatus and wired the choke flapper open. I have not started it again yet as I spent most of the afternoon on the gimbal bearing.
As I was talking to Jeff, he looked at the set up on his 18 and I asked if he had the plastic choke stuff with a vacuum line going to it. He does not so I wonder what this will do now that I wired and disconnected the heat riser part. Also, the short piece of vacuum line appears to be original and likely rotten. If not needed, I should just plug it. Thoughts?
I took some pics of both sides and front of the carb.
Several other questions.

1. Get rid of the vacuum line choke stuff?
2. When looking for a high speed idle adjustment screw which I saw on YouTube, I came across this screw type thingy. Its green in the pic. I saw no adjustment screw. It looks like this may turn, since it has flats on it but if I am disconnecting the associated linkage, I dont think I should mess with this?
3 What kind of tool is used to adjust these dang idle mixture screws?
4. I seem to recall that when I had the carb rebuilt for my Jet, the guy at the Carb shop told me this safety lines that go from the fuel pump to the carb, in case of diaphragm failure, is supposed to flood the carb. If it dumped into the bowl, it would just keep on running and defeat its purpose. Since mine was not hooked up when I pulled the motor last fall and I found a brass nipple in the bilge, I connected it in the most obvious spot but I am not sure that is the correct spot.

As you can see in the pics, the throttle linkage is NOT returning to the idle adjustment screw.
Ross
61 Surflite 1964 90HP Johnson project
67 V163 Bayflite Super Sport  1989 100HP Merc
67 V164 Bayflite 120HP
67 V174 Crestflite Rat Rod
71 V175 Crestflite 350ci -Jet
73 GT 160
84 CVX 17  83 115 Merc
88 CVX-23 350 Mag

Offline Rosscoe

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Re: Its alive!
« Reply #29 on: July 29, 2017, 07:57:42 PM »
couple more
See anything strange?
Ross
61 Surflite 1964 90HP Johnson project
67 V163 Bayflite Super Sport  1989 100HP Merc
67 V164 Bayflite 120HP
67 V174 Crestflite Rat Rod
71 V175 Crestflite 350ci -Jet
73 GT 160
84 CVX 17  83 115 Merc
88 CVX-23 350 Mag

Offline thedeuceman

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Re: Its alive!
« Reply #30 on: July 29, 2017, 08:57:55 PM »
Looks to me like part of the linkage in the last picture is bent and that is what is holding your throttle plates open


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Offline Rosscoe

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Re: Its alive!
« Reply #31 on: July 29, 2017, 09:02:32 PM »
Really?

Can you describe which part(s)? or not
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Ross
61 Surflite 1964 90HP Johnson project
67 V163 Bayflite Super Sport  1989 100HP Merc
67 V164 Bayflite 120HP
67 V174 Crestflite Rat Rod
71 V175 Crestflite 350ci -Jet
73 GT 160
84 CVX 17  83 115 Merc
88 CVX-23 350 Mag

Offline thedeuceman

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Re: Its alive!
« Reply #32 on: July 29, 2017, 09:10:48 PM »
Jeff's carb


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Re: Its alive!
« Reply #33 on: July 29, 2017, 09:13:47 PM »



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92 16CSS "Attitude Adjustment" is for sale
75 CV-16V8, Project
74 CV-16... its Purple !

Offline Rosscoe

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Re: Its alive!
« Reply #34 on: July 29, 2017, 09:30:02 PM »
Got it! Thanks guys
Ross
61 Surflite 1964 90HP Johnson project
67 V163 Bayflite Super Sport  1989 100HP Merc
67 V164 Bayflite 120HP
67 V174 Crestflite Rat Rod
71 V175 Crestflite 350ci -Jet
73 GT 160
84 CVX 17  83 115 Merc
88 CVX-23 350 Mag