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Offline Rosscoe

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Re: Gimbal bearing tool
« Reply #20 on: July 25, 2017, 12:06:11 PM »
My arms are still sore.
A 12 pounder might help. I am not sure I can justify buying another tool right now.
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Re: Gimbal bearing tool
« Reply #21 on: July 25, 2017, 01:03:57 PM »
I am sure you tried penetrating oil but if you didn't try the ATF/Acetone mixture give it a whirl.
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Re: Gimbal bearing tool
« Reply #22 on: July 25, 2017, 01:40:04 PM »
     Not sure what your slide hammer looks like, but mine has a solid 5/8" rod threaded on one end, so the weight can come off.  Anyway, you could fashion something with say barbell weights or similar?  Length of cable or chain and a sledgehammer?  D9 Cat? Sounds like ya got a real tough one this time.
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Re: Gimbal bearing tool
« Reply #23 on: July 25, 2017, 02:41:07 PM »
Or just replace the entire gimbal housing...... Engine is still out right?
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Re: Gimbal bearing tool
« Reply #24 on: July 25, 2017, 02:54:57 PM »
I'd order that little socket tool to remove the gimbal and get down to the bearing if you haven't already.
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Re: Gimbal bearing tool
« Reply #25 on: July 25, 2017, 03:05:23 PM »
Phoenix has the snap ring in front of the gimbal bearing. What a PITA that was to get out. good thing I was changing the bellows, because that was the only way I was able to get the snap ring out.

Yup. I had the same situation on the V174SS that Nehemiah has now. Had I not been doing bellows, it would have been a pain to figure out.

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Re: Gimbal bearing tool
« Reply #26 on: July 25, 2017, 04:00:13 PM »
My arms are still sore.
A 12 pounder might help. I am not sure I can justify buying another tool right now.

I have a big slide hammer if you want to stop by and borrow it.
I think this has become an addiction.


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Re: Gimbal bearing tool
« Reply #27 on: July 25, 2017, 05:37:30 PM »
I'm about to suggest something that could get you hurt. If you use this idea be smart about it.  I don't want anyone to get hurt using some redneck persuasion. 


Attach a pulling strap/hoist/come along/heavy rope/or whatever you have from a big tree or other stationary solid object to the back side of your side hammer.  Pull the boat away from the stationary object to get a decent amount of tension on the hammer. Hang a blanket over the strap to help with the whiplash. You might even want to tie off the jaw side of the hammer to something in the bilge with a short rope in the event the bearing and pulling device are under enough tension to shoot out of the transom assembly when it finally lets go. Do not look into the bearing area while it is under tension.  Start beating on it.  Good luck


I'm totally fine of you guys want to flame me.  It is a crazy idea.

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Offline Rosscoe

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Re: Gimbal bearing tool
« Reply #28 on: July 25, 2017, 05:50:30 PM »
LOL I saw a similar setup on YouTube.
Jason the motor is in the boat I did use some PB Blaster anything to caustic I guess I was a little concerned it might eat the bellows.
Doran what tool are you referring to specifically?
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Re: Gimbal bearing tool
« Reply #29 on: July 25, 2017, 05:54:08 PM »
How big is your slide hammer Shawn?
Another thing I saw on YouTube I'm a try next the guy drilled a bunch of holes in the bearing and it kind of fell apart. Oh that won't work I would need pretty long drill bits
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Re: Gimbal bearing tool
« Reply #30 on: July 25, 2017, 05:58:52 PM »
I would guess the tool that Doran is suggesting is the bellhousing pivot bolts tool, has splines on one side, and hex on the other to fit into a socket.  Those bolts are what the drive tilts on. 
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Re: Gimbal bearing tool
« Reply #31 on: July 25, 2017, 05:59:18 PM »
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Re: Gimbal bearing tool
« Reply #32 on: July 25, 2017, 06:02:27 PM »
I would guess the tool that Doran is suggesting is the bellhousing pivot bolts tool, has splines on one side, and hex on the other to fit into a socket.  Those bolts are what the drive tilts on.

Oh yeah I am familiar with it. I've been in the put back together mod. I'd hate to have to take anymore apart. If I could get it into a shop and get it pulled and one reinstalled in one visit I'd gladly pay for that
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Re: Gimbal bearing tool
« Reply #33 on: July 25, 2017, 06:59:06 PM »
Can you get a Sawzall in there to at least cut the inner race out?

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Re: Gimbal bearing tool
« Reply #34 on: July 25, 2017, 06:59:24 PM »
Don't cut through the inner shoulder.

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Re: Gimbal bearing tool
« Reply #35 on: July 25, 2017, 07:17:13 PM »
Sawsall....i don't think I could get in there.
Ross
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Re: Gimbal bearing tool
« Reply #36 on: July 25, 2017, 07:43:01 PM »
Well anything is possible, so a sawzall might do the job.  The bearing race is going to be hard, like a Rockwell HRC 50 hard.  I'd try this type of blade, should be long enough.  Try to keep it cool and take your time.  Once you get through most if not all of it, it should pop right out.  Cut straight down, easiest way to apply pressure without wearing you out. 
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Re: Gimbal bearing tool
« Reply #37 on: July 25, 2017, 07:51:08 PM »
Hmmmm. I assume the shoulder Tim mentioned is what the bearing is pressed up against.  I imagine that shoulder isn't that much smaller than the outer race but I guess I wouldn't be sawing that far out. Great.  I love cutting hardened steel.
I might try putting some dumbbells on their first.
Ross
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Re: Gimbal bearing tool
« Reply #38 on: July 25, 2017, 07:53:55 PM »
I have this gimbal tool also. Worked great after I removed the PITA snap ring. I wish I would not have reinstalled that snap ring when I was done.
So how does this grab the bearing?
Ross
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Re: Gimbal bearing tool
« Reply #39 on: July 25, 2017, 08:19:20 PM »
I'm about to suggest something that could get you hurt. If you use this idea be smart about it.  I don't want anyone to get hurt using some redneck persuasion. 


Attach a pulling strap/hoist/come along/heavy rope/or whatever you have from a big tree or other stationary solid object to the back side of your side hammer.  Pull the boat away from the stationary object to get a decent amount of tension on the hammer. Hang a blanket over the strap to help with the whiplash. You might even want to tie off the jaw side of the hammer to something in the bilge with a short rope in the event the bearing and pulling device are under enough tension to shoot out of the transom assembly when it finally lets go. Do not look into the bearing area while it is under tension.  Start beating on it.  Good luck


I'm totally fine of you guys want to flame me.  It is a crazy idea.

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