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Offline V153

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Re: Hydrostream Vector crash
« Reply #20 on: December 02, 2014, 06:42:23 PM »
Buddy in Englewood had the steering break in his hot rod flats boat. Boat went one way. He, the old lady, their great dane, and the entire center console went the other.
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Re: Hydrostream Vector crash
« Reply #21 on: December 02, 2014, 07:07:18 PM »
When things happen at higher speeds the results are often "violent" ........I have heard more than one person say the chine walk became "violent" at some point. I think when Marv had the triple v6 snowmobile (Jaws Three) running towards 200 MPH they had a parachute they wore that was supposed to pull them away from a "violent event".............I remember him being at the store (Hawkes Marine) and we were kind of teasing him about laying on three v6 Mercurys going 200 MPH and this thing would gently pull him away if something happened. Truth is I am sure it would have worked perfectly if they needed it. I really miss the good old days....we actually had our name (Hawkes Marine) on either Jaws I or Jaws III as a sponsor as I remember.  Do most of you Stern Drive guys have ignition kill switches with a teather? I am guessing most of the outboard guys do?
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Re: Hydrostream Vector crash
« Reply #22 on: December 02, 2014, 07:33:12 PM »
  Do most of you Stern Drive guys have ignition kill switches with a teather? I am guessing most of the outboard guys do?

Oh yeah, put one in Phoenix 2 years ago, and Fawkes will get one also. I always have it clipped on to my life jacket.
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Re: Hydrostream Vector crash
« Reply #23 on: December 02, 2014, 08:00:19 PM »
"Violent" is sometimes a good word to describe chine walk. And violence is magnified by speed. And everybody knows bad things happen faster at speed. I know ...

Far as kill switches go my guess would be most of the OB guys run em. Lotta the IO & jet guys too but mebbe not so many. Everybody should.
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Re: Hydrostream Vector crash
« Reply #24 on: December 02, 2014, 09:07:51 PM »
Just have to remember to clip it on ...

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Re: Hydrostream Vector crash
« Reply #25 on: December 02, 2014, 09:10:08 PM »
The new Evinrude E-Tec G2 has the hydraulic steering built into the motor itself. No exterior rods or connections subject to corrosion and wear.

"By making the steering gears vertical instead of horizontal, Evinrude engineers were able to completely house the steering in one, sealed, corrosion-proof casing integral to the engine.

All-New Internal Steering

Another 21st century innovation of the Evinrude E-TEC G2 engines is the Integrated Hydraulic Steering mechanism. Now the hydraulic hoses coming from the steering assembly go directly to a casing integral to the outboard body itself. No longer is there an external rod and cylinder required for steering. By completely encasing the steering gears, Evinrude has eliminated the corrosion that is ubiquitous on an external steering gear."


http://www.boattest.com/engine-review/Evinrude/22500090_E-TEC-G2-225-H-O-_2014
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Re: Hydrostream Vector crash
« Reply #26 on: December 02, 2014, 09:58:27 PM »
SO now yer getting a new 250 motor for the boat that you're going to pull with your new Mustang?
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Re: Hydrostream Vector crash
« Reply #27 on: December 03, 2014, 05:26:35 AM »
I'm still saving for retirement. The cash needed to live into the 80's or 90's is out of sight.
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Re: Hydrostream Vector crash
« Reply #28 on: December 03, 2014, 07:21:35 AM »
Circa 1981 (I think) Mercury came out with 300 hp V6......74 degree block (same as the Etech G2) cast by Cosworth........and a really cool "power steering"  There was a link from the normal steering to some cables which rotated the Trim tab to provide "power" steering via water pressure and it actually worked good. Anybody seen one of those lately? 

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Re: Hydrostream Vector crash
« Reply #29 on: December 04, 2014, 10:27:03 AM »
Any pics of "jaws III"?
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Offline David CVX-16

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Re: Hydrostream Vector crash
« Reply #30 on: December 04, 2014, 03:23:56 PM »
Here are two pictures of Jaws III, although not that great. The machine is really long. Marv Jorgenson had it on display at Chopper City Sports in Fridley.
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Re: Hydrostream Vector crash
« Reply #31 on: December 04, 2014, 07:47:57 PM »
Parts list for the water pressure power steering........it really worked well.......
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Re: Hydrostream Vector crash
« Reply #32 on: December 04, 2014, 11:43:33 PM »
I did some searching and couldn't find anything on that set up Don ...
The motor turned and the tab turned ?

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Re: Hydrostream Vector crash
« Reply #33 on: December 05, 2014, 07:00:55 AM »
  Here is an article (1980 Outboard preveiw) from 1979 that has some information on the Water Pressure Power Steering.  In the same Magazine there is part four of a feature called "18-footer around the continent"  It is about a SSV-188 that they take to various places and boat, I know I have seen the time they were on the St. Croix......I will have to see if I can find all the parts (different months) and post. I am sure I have a service Manuel for the Cosworth 300 as well.  Gregg, I also have an idea to make sure your CV will beat David...........
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Re: Hydrostream Vector crash
« Reply #34 on: December 05, 2014, 09:26:56 AM »
Huummm ... Any idea how long Merc used that set up ?
Did hydraulic steering come out (for outboards) and replace this system?

" Gregg, I also have an idea to make sure your CV will beat David..."

OK ... But ...  If I top Dave's speed, he will have to dip into his 2015 Mustang saving account and get a 150 HO E-TEC motor ....
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Ya ... Would love to hear your ideas Don


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Re: Hydrostream Vector crash
« Reply #35 on: December 05, 2014, 09:39:40 AM »
My idea is you buy that 300 Pro and bolt it on.............It is in stock waiting for you

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Re: Hydrostream Vector crash
« Reply #36 on: December 05, 2014, 10:25:00 AM »
I think that 300 would sink my CV ...
Might not be able to beat Dave, but this one would look nice on my transom ...


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Re: Hydrostream Vector crash
« Reply #37 on: December 05, 2014, 10:38:34 AM »
To be forewarned is to be forearmed. 

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Re: Hydrostream Vector crash
« Reply #38 on: December 05, 2014, 05:05:20 PM »
Ok no 300........would you consider twin 115'S ?   As far as I know it was only on the 300 and not for long.....pretty cool though that you could let go of the wheel (no Feedback)

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Re: Hydrostream Vector crash
« Reply #39 on: December 05, 2014, 07:45:00 PM »
Nice 115 ... But I still need new interior and windshield ...