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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: GT150 JEFF on November 07, 2010, 11:24:29 AM
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Ok winter is here and the floor in the cvx needed to be replaced.
Had several soft spots.
Removed the carpet to find a crack where the floor meets the outer part of the boat on the starboard side.
Further examination after floor removed is that the stringer needs to replaced on that side.
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Jeff - One is better than all three. Looks like you also removed the flotation boxes in the corners. Are you gonna leave them out for engine access?
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Kip you are right about the one hopin it was none.
The flotation box's are history along with 8 bags of foam
Not sure what to do, but I think they will go back in only deeper, hate to give up the storage plus I need a shelf on each side for the battery and trim pump.
But I am open for suggestions from anybody.
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Looking good, good to hear it is only one stringer. Are you and Kip both replacing floors this year? Are you going to do anymore engine work this year?
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Buddy you are getting busy! Now the fun begins. Whats happening with the thru hull?
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Shaun I should be replacing my floor as it's a lot worse than Jeff's was. But not this winter. Maybe next year when I have the motor and drive out it.
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Well the motor has to come out anyway, I removed all the flotation boxes and 7 bags of foam, going to rebuild the boxes but in a different way.
So with the engine removed will put in the thru hull at that time.
First I have to take care of replacement of the stringer, floor then boxes finally thru hull.
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Jeff - Can't wait to hear how your boat will sound next summer w/thru hull.! Your goal needs to be passing the 70 MPH marker! 8)
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Can't wait to hear the thru hull. Big Job!
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Good work so far Jeff! I just replaced my floor and a couple (unbelievably rotted) stringers and was thrilled with the results - definitely worth the work. Please let me know when you're doing the thru hull - I'd really appreciate a chance to come check out your work in person and get some ideas for my 23. Keep it up bud!
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DOG GONE JEFF ...
Ya can take pictures ...LOL
Keep em comin' and keep up the good work ...
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Jeff: Did you make any progress this weekend?
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Andy
Just finished glassing in the stringer in tonight.
Will get some plywood for the floor this week and start fitting that soon.
I removed all the flotation boxes so will have to rebuild all that also, but going to lower the floor in them to gain more storage. Maybe you have some good ideas.
Then it will be in and out with the engine several times to get the exhaust right.
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Figure out your carpet yet? Where are you getting it from?
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Looked on E-bay only dark brown color I could find had him send me a sample matched almost perfect
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Jeff, Hoo-Ah! All that work is going to pay off big time. I like the idea of a shortened flotation box with a little storage.
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Jeff, consider a snap in carpet with rugged backing made by Corinthian Carpet. Mine does not need snaps, just fits and stays in place. Afton marine sells it, or you can buy direct from Corinthian Carpet. Great to take out the carpet when doing dirty mechanical work on the engines, to dry out, vacuum, and store indoors in the winter time. Universal Textiles in Oakdale can edge it for you after it is cut out from the template pattern. I glassed the floor with two coats of resin before the carpet.
http://www.corinthian-marine-carpet.com/aquamats/standard-cut-pile-aquamat
David
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http://www.corinthian-marine-carpet.com/aquamats/standard-cut-pile-aquamat
David
No green >:(
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No green >:(
What about this one??? I just had to dig a little hearder...
http://www.corinthian-marine-carpet.com/aquamat/exclusive-premium-cut-pile-british-green
B~
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My first choice on the laid down fitted carpet would be Corinthian as they supply carpet to some of the big boat manufactors. Request a sample and check it against your existing boat interior colors. If they do not have the color you want, try Rockford in the Twin Cities. They sell a variety of laid down carpets and have a display showroom. But I compared the backings of the two suppliers and thought Corinthian was the best constructed. The total cost of my carpet was around $300; $230 for the carpet and $75 for the cutting and the stitching.
I bought the carpet in bulk from Afton Marine and made a template of the floor area and brought both to Universal Textiles to cut and bind, although Corinthian or Afton Marine will cut and bind it for you, but it will cost alot more.
Rochford seems to have moved from 94 and Broadway, to Brooklyn Park.
http://www.rochfordsupply.com/contact.asp
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I don't want to hijack Jeffs thread anymore. I saw that green too Brian. Looks like it might be too dark but may be a good canidate. I am going to look for the closet to original as possible. I'll have to get a sample of that stuff.
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Looking good Jeff. Are you replacing manifolds and risers too or can you still use those? No, I'm not hinting cuz I need some. :D
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Jeff
Anything new?
Anxious to see how you do the exhaust but I imagine that will be a bit later.
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Ross
Stringer,floor and new boxes in back are all in and painted.
Ready to test fit the motor and drill some hole in the tramsom.
Should get to the exhaust in between Christmas and New Years as I am off work that week.
And if there is Christmas goodies under the tree will have to do something with them.
Carpet sometime in Feb.
Jeff
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Jeff, you are going to completely transform that boat from top to bottom, from inside to outside. But both you and old Red are good at leading us on by not reveiling the whole picture at once, with sentences like "And if there is Christmas goodies under the tree will have to do something with them" LOL
David
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Received and new depth finder from my daughters for Christmas
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A present to myself but a new used 5hr laserII 25pitch
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The stringer is in the floor is done
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Engine bay is complete time to install
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Mock up of the new exhaust, will make that little 4 wheel cart fly, trying to figure out steering any thoughts?
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just another pic of the engine
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You're fast! Nice work! Looks awesome.
Looks to be a bit late but I came across this set up where you could retain the thru prop and have thru hull exhaust if one wanted to. I guess its inteneded more for someone not pulling the motor.
http://www.mooreperformance.info/TripleExhaustPipes.html
Did you fill those new boxes with foam then?
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Looks good Jeff ...
Can't wait for another ride this summer ...
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Jeff - Nice work! Floor looks great. I like how your port & starboard stern boxes turned out. Really opens up the back for storage and engine access. Now lets see a picture w/thu-hull sticking out the transom! ;D
Ross - The only way to make that triple exhaust pipe work on a CVX18 is to run the exhaust above the rub rail. A lot of us CVX18 owners won't do that to our boats.
Can't wait for another ride this summer ...
Jeff's boat should really fly this summer. I remember there was time when I could almost stick w/him. Not anymore! ;D
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" Ross - The only way to make that triple exhaust pipe work on a CVX18 is to run the exhaust above the rub rail. A lot of us CVX18 owners won't do that to our boats. "
Kip
Easy fix to that problem !
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Ah, I see. Comes out too high.
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Looking good Jeff. How long before the motor goes in? I can't wait to see that exhaust. Now you got me thinking if I should pull those box out of mine. There was quite a bit of water that was coming in there, between the hull and deck,
when I got the boat. The top of the boxes are not in great shape so I am guessing there is water down in there. Was there alot of water in yours when you pulled them out?
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Shaun, been trying to post more pics camera and comp are not working together
The motor and exhaust are in the S pipes worked out as planned made for the application.
Carpet is all in need to finnish up back area around the engine
The flotation box foam weighed approx 100lbs water soaked, they built the boxes installed them then drilled holes on top put in the expanding foam then carpet. Did not bother to plug the holes after filling. Now would the time to remove them. While you are at it a 350 could easily replace your 305 at the same time.
Hope to get pics up soon
Jeff
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Jeff
email them to me ...
I'll post them.
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Can not get them to load from the camera to the computer
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Pull SD chip out of camera and stick into slot on side of Mac.
Might show up in what ever Mac uses for Explorer.
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The holes are drilled , tips installed, engine is in along with carpet been busy this morning
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Sweet Jeff! Exhaust looks awesome! New carpeting looks great also. You do nice work! ;) Rumble... rumble..... 8)
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WOW :o that does look great. Can't wait to hear that thing rumble!!
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Jeff
OldRed was a bad influence on you ... LOL
Kip & Shaun
Better throw in the towel !
Ya owe me a ride Jeff ...
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Wasn't Me .. I didn't have a Thing to do with it .. it's part of the Disease
Man .. I like that exhaust set-up, I could run a 4" on my boat like that .. mine is 3" because there is not enough room above the power steering slave.
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Nice work Jeff. The fit of the pipes back there looks snug from the inside. Perfect!
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I'm curious...how did you do your glass work in the winter? Too flamable to do it running a heater and too cold not to.
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I used Epoxy
Have a hanging gas heater 45000btu keeps it nice and toasty
The reason I use epoxy is that my garage is attached and the minute I open a can of resin I hear screaming of smell from my wife and 2 daughters.
So you guessed it you know who wears the pants in the family. But they let me do my GLASTRON thing without complaining.
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Jeff was kind enough to let me swing by and check out his work last week, as I want to do the same thing to my 23 and we're dealing with similar space constraints. The exhaust and floor look awesome :o the 'S' pipes he got worked perfectly. Now I have no choice but to do the same to mine...
Thanks again for letting me hang out and nice work!!
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Jeff: That looks awesome. Can't wait to hear it run. Looks like the carpet matches up great.
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I stopped by last weekend to check out Jeff's boat. The pictures of the work he's done don't do it justice.
Awesome job all around! His CVX18 should really scoot this summer. ;)
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WOW Jeff from our last conversation you really got a lot done i bet that will sound awsome in the spring can't wait.
Tom
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Jeff
Where did you end up buying your exhaust components?
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Jeff, How did you cap off where the exhaust went into the lower unit?
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Ross
I purchased the S pipes and exhaust tips on Ebay when parts could be purchased at a reasonable price. I paid about $80.00 for the S pipes and $70.00 for the tips.
Jason
When you remove the Y pipe you put a block off plate in its place purchased that on ebay also.
Jeff
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Do you have a link or something to that block off plate? My brother wants to do this to his Slickcraft.
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Jason
If nothing else, I did see that plate on Moore Performance as part of a kit but I am sure it can be had seperately.
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I patterened and cut out a 1/4 piece of aluminum, off the "Y" pipe and drilled the holes, applied Ultra Black sealant, to cover the exhaust hole on my drive.
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Do you have a link or something to that block off plate? My brother wants to do this to his Slickcraft.
I think this is the plate.
http://shop.ebay.com/i.html?_nkw=mercruiser+exhaust+block+off&_sacat=0&_odkw=mercruiser+exhaust+block&_osacat=0&_trksid=p3286.c0.m270.l1313
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Ross
I purchased the S pipes and exhaust tips on Ebay when parts could be purchased at a reasonable price. I paid about $80.00 for the S pipes and $70.00 for the tips.
Jason
When you remove the Y pipe you put a block off plate in its place purchased that on ebay also.
Jeff
what were thses s pipes originally off of? that looks like it fit up nicely was thinking if i can find that setup id do the same. I had the old style manifolds and switched to center risers to gain room. Should e the same setup about as what you have but older style engine
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Shrom - I'm pretty sure the S pipes he used are from a mercruiser kit (part number 18563A1)...it's a kit that comes with the two pipes and all the hardware needed to hook it them up to your center rise manifolds.
Jeff scored a hell of a deal as these typically sell for around $300 new!! I'm looking for the same kit after seeing how well they fit in Jeff's boat...good luck man!
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Shrom - The set-up Jeff used should work on your boat. The only real difference between the 2 boats that I can think of is that power steering assembly on the transom(due to the different drives). But I don't think that will make a bit of difference.
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thats right, the later model drive thru assy, the power steering slave is a little higher than the early model, leaving more space for exhaust below it, here is a link for another "S" pipe on ebay.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/MERCRUISER-EXHAUST-S-PIPE-KIT-18563A1-/130477508126?pt=Boat_Parts_Accessories_Gear&hash=item1e6110c61e (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/MERCRUISER-EXHAUST-S-PIPE-KIT-18563A1-/130477508126?pt=Boat_Parts_Accessories_Gear&hash=item1e6110c61e)
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Thanks guys, I'm pretty i'm going to try and do that setup. I found that on ebay, but some somebody took it before I could get a chance!! haha orangefever ( sorry I dont know your name)Did you take it? >:( j/k i'm sure It will come up again.
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Shrom - Guilty as charged! :'( I felt like a total a-hole buying the pipes immediately after telling you about them, but I wasn't aware of the auction Red posted and it was too good to pass up! Sorry man! I'm sure another set will pop up and probably be cheaper...
I'll keep my eye open for ya though - this kit should work great for your boat.
Now I just need to find a pair of center rise manifolds at the right price...
Good luck!
Alex
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Shrom - Guilty as charged! :'( I felt like a total a-hole buying the pipes immediately after telling you about them, but I wasn't aware of the auction Red posted and it was too good to pass up! Sorry man! I'm sure another set will pop up and probably be cheaper...
I'll keep my eye open for ya though - this kit should work great for your boat.
Now I just need to find a pair of center rise manifolds at the right price...
Good luck!
Alex
Well, thats alright, I guess I'll let it slide this time. lol that would be great if you could keep your eye out for me, funny thing is I sent an offer in and got a counter off and went to accept it and well you must have took it right before i had my chance...as soon as i find this kit i will be starting on the exhaust. I plan to pull the engine beginning of feb.
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Alex, I must say I'm not going to be the happiest camper if I have to end up buying this http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280574939265&fromMakeTrack=true&ssPageName=VIP:watchlink:top:en I could have had it for less then half that. I will have to keep looking for that deal again the next few weeks while i'm taking my engine out and doing other work to the boat that needs done before i do the exhaust work.
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I'm sure you'll be able to find something...again, Jeff got his for like 80 bucks, so I'd think another kit will come up. The marine store I got mine from might have another set or two laying around - I can get you their number if you want??
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I'm sure you'll be able to find something...again, Jeff got his for like 80 bucks, so I'd think another kit will come up. The marine store I got mine from might have another set or two laying around - I can get you their number if you want??
yeah I accually sent them a message last night asking, haven't heard back from them yet. Probably wont till tomorrow. but yeah could you give me there number just in case? Like you said And i did before i'm sure a deal will come up again. I just had to give you a hard time.
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PM sent...
Sorry for hijacking the thread Jeff!
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PM sent...
Sorry for hijacking the thread Jeff!
Agreed, I'm sorry also Jeff! It kinda started with me.... :-/