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General Category => Classified / Wanted to Buy => Topic started by: dorelse on June 18, 2013, 11:31:04 PM

Title: 1978 CVZ-18 For Sale
Post by: dorelse on June 18, 2013, 11:31:04 PM
Ok, here's the deal.

There are one or 2 boats that I'd give up the CVZ for, and one of those has come available.  Not commenting on what that boat is just yet, let's just say, I won't be kicked out of the club.

I will not have 2 boats, I am 100% sticking to that rule, so my CVZ is officially for sale.  If the other boat sells before Goldie, then Goldie is back off the market.  And I'll be blissfully unconflicted again (and sleeping better).

I'm very torn about selling her after 3 years of work, but if it sells it sells, if it doesn't, it doesn't.

The bow cover does not come with the boat, that is non-negotiable, sorry.

The boat, cosmetically, is not perfect, I consider it a boat to have fun with and enjoy.  Every system has been gone through, and mechanically, its sound and ready to go.  This is the first summer I'm finally not scrambling to get the boat ready for our trip to Park Rapids.  Its gas & go.

Trailer refurb'd last summer, newer tires, pulls straight and is the original trailer to the boat.

I think everyone's seen the restore threads, so I'll save everyone all the details.  I'd like to have it for our trip to Park Rapids, MN, but if someone wants it sooner, we can talk.

$4500 Cash

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-LvlDb9Fi-no/UbawpbZUEII/AAAAAAAARDc/e6ABGjU-FV0/s800/9011467039_a56c762681_o.jpg)

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Title: Re: 1978 CVZ-18 For Sale
Post by: Jason on June 19, 2013, 07:11:39 AM
hmmmmm. I bet you need that bow cover for your NEW boat!
Title: Re: 1978 CVZ-18 For Sale
Post by: dorelse on June 19, 2013, 07:52:12 AM
hmmmmm. I bet you need that bow cover for your NEW boat!

Actually, no bow cover required with the other one.
Title: Re: 1978 CVZ-18 For Sale
Post by: Jason on June 19, 2013, 09:52:42 AM
I need to know! It's driving me nuts!!!!!

Hope everything works out for you Doran.
Title: Re: 1978 CVZ-18 For Sale
Post by: WetRaider on June 19, 2013, 10:20:21 AM
whaaaaa?

Good luck to you, Doran.  Just curious - what will you do with the bow cover and no boat to put it on?  Something to hang on to for the future, in case you need it then?
Title: Re: Re: 1978 CVZ-18 For Sale
Post by: dorelse on June 19, 2013, 10:31:36 AM
Cover will be molded and copies sold for everyone.

That's probably gonna happen this fall whether or not Goldie sells.

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Title: Re: 1978 CVZ-18 For Sale
Post by: dorelse on June 19, 2013, 12:17:40 PM
Ok, ok.  I've told enough folks via PM.

I want the '82 GX-150 on Fargo CL:

http://fargo.craigslist.org/boa/3845697423.html (http://fargo.craigslist.org/boa/3845697423.html)

(http://images.craigslist.org/3Mb3Ld3Ha5G25Ef5J4d620a0eaceff76a13a6.jpg)
Title: Re: 1978 CVZ-18 For Sale
Post by: thedeuceman on June 19, 2013, 12:24:38 PM
NICE...
Good luck !
Title: Re: 1978 CVZ-18 For Sale
Post by: dorelse on June 19, 2013, 12:25:47 PM
Its the only boat I'd swap for Goldie...and only that year/color.  Otherwise, I have a great boat that I'm very happy with.
Title: Re: 1978 CVZ-18 For Sale
Post by: MarkS on June 19, 2013, 02:47:13 PM
That's a nice looking boat Doran, good luck with the deal.
Quote
Package deal includes matching trailer and aluminum canopy boat lift.
Not often you see that!
Title: Re: 1978 CVZ-18 For Sale
Post by: Hyperacme on June 19, 2013, 03:18:04 PM
Rare color ... first one I've seen "For Sale".
Kind of a mini CVZ19 ...
What about the outboard ?
Will you sell it to Dan and get a 4 stroke ?
Will you tell Mom that Evinrude 115 HO ETEC's don't smell ?
Has he sent you pictures of it ?

I like the way this is going ...
I've never even seen one, cept' in pictures ...
Can I have a ride in it ?
 
Title: Re: 1978 CVZ-18 For Sale
Post by: dorelse on June 19, 2013, 03:20:58 PM
Rare color ... first one I've seen "For Sale".
Kind of a mini CVZ19 ...
What about the outboard ?
Will you sell it to Dan and get a 4 stroke ?
Will you tell Mom that Evinrude 115 HO ETEC's don't smell ?
Has he sent you pictures of it ?

I like the way this is going ...
I've never even seen one, cept' in pictures ...
Can I have a ride in it ?

Wait?  It has an OB? 
Title: Re: 1978 CVZ-18 For Sale
Post by: 84carlson on June 19, 2013, 05:25:39 PM
It nice to see more outboard guys, looks like a fun little boat...

Joe
Title: Re: 1978 CVZ-18 For Sale
Post by: WetRaider on June 19, 2013, 06:03:21 PM
It should fit in the 3rd door of the garage ...
Title: Re: Re: Re: 1978 CVZ-18 For Sale
Post by: dorelse on June 19, 2013, 06:42:34 PM
It nice to see more outboard guys, looks like a fun little boat...

Joe

Well,  the Prince of Nigeria did make an offer today!   But,  unless someone who has real money shows up,  I'm still in the CVZ camp... kids are not happy!

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Title: Re: 1978 CVZ-18 For Sale
Post by: Hyperacme on June 19, 2013, 06:46:27 PM
I have an ad on CL for a Teleflex " The Rack " steering system ...
You should see the reply's I've gotten from it ... Couldn't post any of them here ...
Should have put it in the "Personals" section  .... LOL
Title: Re: Re: Re: 1978 CVZ-18 For Sale
Post by: wexrocks on June 19, 2013, 09:08:45 PM

Well,  the Prince of Nigeria did make an offer today!   But,  unless someone who has real money shows up,  I'm still in the CVZ camp... kids are not happy!

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kids are not happy because you still have it, or because it might go?
Title: Re: Re: Re: 1978 CVZ-18 For Sale
Post by: dorelse on June 19, 2013, 09:11:54 PM

Well,  the Prince of Nigeria did make an offer today!   But,  unless someone who has real money shows up,  I'm still in the CVZ camp... kids are not happy!

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kids are not happy because you still have it, or because it might go?

Might go.
Title: Re: 1978 CVZ-18 For Sale
Post by: Hyperacme on June 20, 2013, 06:31:32 AM
Pretty sure the GX is an outboard Doran ...
You could ask the seller just to be sure though ...


Seating might work better with this boat, but I think it's also an outboard ...

1976 Glastron GT-150 with a 74" Johnson 70 HP motor - $3500 (Kirkwood)
http://stlouis.craigslist.org/boa/3786081742.html (http://stlouis.craigslist.org/boa/3786081742.html)
(http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p286/Hyperacme/GCOTD/3E33K63J55N45G95Jcd550554e876d52f12ff_zpsd39a71e2.jpg) (http://s131.photobucket.com/user/Hyperacme/media/GCOTD/3E33K63J55N45G95Jcd550554e876d52f12ff_zpsd39a71e2.jpg.html)
(http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p286/Hyperacme/GCOTD/3M73I13Na5N75E95F2d5577cb15b3871f12e4_zps070898e1.jpg) (http://s131.photobucket.com/user/Hyperacme/media/GCOTD/3M73I13Na5N75E95F2d5577cb15b3871f12e4_zps070898e1.jpg.html)


My V-156 on the Karavan trailer was about 21 feet from prop to hitch, CV's on same trailer but has a swing hitch so it's about 19 1/2 feet.
Title: Re: 1978 CVZ-18 For Sale
Post by: Rosscoe on June 20, 2013, 07:16:14 AM
Good luck with the sale and purchase. Hope things fall into place for you.
Title: Re: 1978 CVZ-18 For Sale
Post by: dorelse on June 20, 2013, 08:50:00 AM
Pretty sure the GX is an outboard Doran ...
You could ask the seller just to be sure though ...

I just don't see an OB? 

I love the '76 GT-150, but it'll be either that GX-150 or my CVZ.  Kids & wife don't like sitting backwards on a boat.

She's basically is over the 'boat thing' so its my hobby to get what I want essentially...
Title: Re: 1978 CVZ-18 For Sale
Post by: dorelse on June 20, 2013, 12:50:23 PM
Ok, been talking to a few people, cover can go with the boat, but we'll need to talk first.  :D  I won't sell the cover first.

I'm waiting on more photos of the gx-150, and I should see it on the 29th.  I expect that to impact how anxious I am to sell the CVZ.
Title: Re: 1978 CVZ-18 For Sale
Post by: WetRaider on June 20, 2013, 04:30:28 PM
Doran - a quick box, some pour foam and mold release or petroleum jelly should get you a mold of that thing real quick.  Make the mold, sell the cover ... then have new ones laid into the mold ...
Title: Re: 1978 CVZ-18 For Sale
Post by: David CVX-16 on June 20, 2013, 06:02:55 PM
If you really want that GX-150, I would buy it and float two boats for awhile. Eventually you will sell the CVZ. That is what I did owning the V-153 and buying the CVX-16. Knew that was the boat for me, but did not want two boats. Tryed the CVX-16 out on the water before putting the V-153 up for sale and it sold after a longggggggggggggg six weeks. If I had not bought the CVX-16 on the spot, there were dozens of people behind me to buy it. 
Title: Re: 1978 CVZ-18 For Sale
Post by: dorelse on June 20, 2013, 07:02:22 PM
If you really want that GX-150, I would buy it and float two boats for awhile. Eventually you will sell the CVZ. That is what I did owning the V-153 and buying the CVX-16. Knew that was the boat for me, but did not want two boats. Tryed the CVX-16 out on the water before putting the V-153 up for sale and it sold after a longggggggggggggg six weeks. If I had not bought the CVX-16 on the spot, there were dozens of people behind me to buy it. 

I've played that game before...I can sell my wife on some stuff...but spending another $4k on another boat...well, let's just say we've done the 2 boat thing once, and she's nobody's fool.

I haven't even see the boat in person, its one thing to buy a project boat blind, but one that you want to not have to work on...that needs some eyes on site.

Gary (the owner) is a good guy, I'm waiting on more pictures and will see it on the 29th.  If it sells, it wasn't meant to be.
Title: Re: 1978 CVZ-18 For Sale
Post by: 84carlson on June 20, 2013, 10:28:49 PM
What is does the number 8 mean on the CVZ?
Title: Re: 1978 CVZ-18 For Sale
Post by: dorelse on June 20, 2013, 10:34:05 PM
What is does the number 8 mean on the CVZ?

In Iowa, we have to have the boats rated person capacity on the boat.  So the CVZ is rated for 8, or you can put 'OR' Owner Responsible...but then if they think you're overloaded, you can attract the DNR's attention.

Title: Re: 1978 CVZ-18 For Sale
Post by: WetRaider on June 20, 2013, 11:03:13 PM
You're suppose to have it only so many inches from the stern ... but there are still quite a few people who run boats without the capacity ...  Doran's number sticks out and is easy to see from a distance.  A friend out here was stopped pulling out of the marina because their fender was hanging over the number - no ticket, but still a hassle.


DNR out here likes to bust people when their on-board and on-towable capacity is greater than the boat's label. 
Title: Re: 1978 CVZ-18 For Sale
Post by: 84carlson on June 21, 2013, 05:18:39 PM
We don't have those rules in Nebraska...Seems interesting to me...
Title: Re: 1978 CVZ-18 For Sale
Post by: 75starflight on June 21, 2013, 05:24:29 PM
We don't have those rules in Nebraska...Seems interesting to me...

Nope we don't Joe, I think we should though!
I have seen enough over loaded boats on Sherman where the game and parks guy should have been kicking them off of the lake!
Title: Re: 1978 CVZ-18 For Sale
Post by: Rosscoe on June 21, 2013, 06:22:41 PM
Well if the DNR is relying on the owner putting the correct number on it, without any knowledge or specs on the boat, everyone could just put 12 or 15... something ridiculous.
Then they'd have to stop you and look at the tag to see the boat capacity jives with the number you put on.  Seems like a dumb azz law to me.

Doran, after all the blood sweat and tears you've put into both your CVZ's, why do you want to sell it and go to something that small when you have kids and such? You've got a nice boat and know what has been done to it and what it still needs. We all have our likes and dislikes but I think the one you have is superior in the looks department and probably handling too. Besides, it has a V8!!!!
Just my 1 1/2 cents
Title: Re: 1978 CVZ-18 For Sale
Post by: dorelse on June 21, 2013, 07:12:26 PM
If it doesn't sell, its totally fine by me!  I can say I tried, didn't violate the 1 boat rule, and it wasn't meant to be.

Its good to know that the mythical '82 gx-150 exists though!
Title: Re:
Post by: dorelse on June 22, 2013, 12:00:58 AM
Sometimes my "always looking for the perfect solution",  when none exists " syndrome gets the better of me.   I used to do it with cars and now it crept into my boat life.

"Other boat fever" has passed, boat is off the market.  Thanks for all the calls,  texts and pm's that helped set me straight!
 
We're going to figure out how to get the bow cover molded this fall.

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Title: Re:
Post by: dorelse on June 22, 2013, 12:05:40 AM
Maybe I'll pick up a gx150 project for the kids down the road... cuz its MUCH cheaper that way... right everyone?!!   :-D

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Title: Re: 1978 CVZ-18 For Sale
Post by: Rosscoe on June 22, 2013, 08:30:06 AM
Good decision, if you ask me.
Title: Re: 1978 CVZ-18 For Sale
Post by: 75starflight on June 22, 2013, 08:38:09 AM
Glad to see Goldie is staying in your family for a little longer! She does have a good family to be with.

Just curious what changed your mind on making a mold for the bow cover??
Title: Re: 1978 CVZ-18 For Sale
Post by: Jason on June 22, 2013, 01:19:17 PM
Good to hear Doran. I think you and Goldie are meant to be. This is not the first time you tried to get rid of her and she comes crawling back.
Title: Re: 1978 CVZ-18 For Sale
Post by: dorelse on June 22, 2013, 01:57:23 PM
Good to hear Doran. I think you and Goldie are meant to be. This is not the first time you tried to get rid of her and she comes crawling back.

I needed a reminder from the kids that my (now deceased) Dad and I really bonded over building the boat.  Not that we weren't good before it, because we were, but he loved that boat.  Even though I know he'd say, "Its just a boat, sell it if you want to"...I'm not there yet.

So yes, its supposed to be mine.  I'll keep my eye out for a gx-150 project eventually.


Brandon - 2 reasons.

1) I made a promise to Wex that if he blessed me with the 2nd cover he found, I'd not mold and sell copies, thus devaluing both our boats values in the process.  It would also not honor all the time & effort he'd gone through to find them.

2) There are enough CVZ owners who are 'good guys' that it makes sense to help them out...but everyone needs to keep in mind that from an purely economic standpoint, its going to cost me money in lost value in my CVZ.  Supply & demand...simple as that.

That said, Wex freed me from that promise, and as a guy who works with fiberglass has agreed to make the mold and the reproductions.

We'll work on costs & prices this fall, and I'll take orders & deposits when we're ready.

The cover costs about $100 to ship each way...so just getting the cover to PA & back will cost $200, which means the cover to your door, before it even is made...is already $100...so in the end it may be cost prohibitive.
Title: Re: 1978 CVZ-18 For Sale
Post by: WetRaider on June 23, 2013, 05:42:50 PM
What if you had the new ones molded out of plastic?
Then, the original covers would retain their higher value, new owner's of old boats without could buy a lower cost "reproduction" cover, the plastic would be lighter weight and cost less to ship ... ? 
Title: Re: 1978 CVZ-18 For Sale
Post by: kert0307 on June 23, 2013, 06:15:45 PM
Know what would be cool, form them out of tinted lexan or plexi like the windshield, so you could still see the seats even when it's covered...

Edit: Maybe you could also form the rear section with a lip up to form the missing windshield section. I bet it would be big and awkward and easy to break though...
Title: Re: Re: 1978 CVZ-18 For Sale
Post by: 75starflight on June 23, 2013, 07:39:16 PM
I like that idea Kurt, wonder if Red and Barb's plastic guy could do it?

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