Minnesota Classic Glastron Forum
General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: porterra on November 14, 2013, 02:22:36 PM
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I have a 1977 Glastron Sportster XL that looks amazing and the interior and motor is all in great shape. It is the white and silver model and absolutely sparkles in the sun while on the water. Unfortunately it has a broken transom and needs repaired. This boat is way to nice to go to the scrap yard but may need to if no one here wants to save it. Looking for $500 as it has a good 75 HP evinrude, the canvas riding cover and trailer with it. Please e mail porterrajp@hotmail.com with any question
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Welcome to the CGOAMN forum Porterra !
Could you add where your located and any pictures of your boat ...
If you have trouble posting pictures, let me know and I can help.
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I have updated my profile with a pic of the boat, I am in SE MN but can easily access southern and eastern MN if there is a potential buyer. We would really like to see this boat back on the water but we are not able to do it. I have other pics of the boat but can not seem to find out how to put them on the site so feel free to e mail me and I will send them to you.
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I really like that silver metal flake ...
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Thank you Hyperacme for putting the pics up. As you can see the boat is in nice shape and is great a restore project. The flake is very bright and the interior is perfect. Please let me know if there are any other views you would like.
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That is a nice boat! Definitely not for the scrap heap.
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No kidding. Looks great in the pictures.
Bow rider? Check.
Metal flake? Check.
Hardware all there? Check.
Interior complete? Check.
Spare $500 (not committed to something else)? Damn.
That's a tempting project at this house. Wife loves the metal flake, and bow rider ...
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On your CGOA post, you said you would keep it if you could fix it for under $1000 ...
If you did the work yourself it could be done for under $500 !
If you love the V-156/T-166 boats, you'll not find a nice one then that one ...
While it's not easy to replace transom's & floor's, it really not that hard to do if you spend a few hours on it a week over the winter months .
I have pictures of rotted & repaired V-156's if you would like to look at what the job would take.
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It's probably a good thing you're almost 1,000 miles from me JP, the squirrel cage in my brain is churning on this one! LOL I'm thinking if there ever was a good one to do the transom from the outside, this might be it?
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I feel your pain. That is a beautiful boat. Very sad. What do we need to do to convince you to save her?
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The post on GOCA was from a person that wanted really bad to buy it but couldn't quite do it. We want to save this boat too! That is why we have it on here. I am hoping someone with time and knowledge of how to do it can save it. With 2 young children at home I just do not have the time, or the space. I wish I did. This is the boat that my wife grew up with and it was taken care of as you can see in the pictures. For a 1977 boat there are no tears in any of the seats and it still has a brilliant sparkle with very minor sun fading where the cover did not go. We are willing to listen to offers but I do not think our price is out of line especially with the motor and trailer. Please let any of your contacts in the boat world know about it. I can help get it up to the cities or most places in the southern half of MN as we are in SE MN and I have work and family in SW MN. Thank you all for the positive comments, My wife has fond memories of this boat and boating with her father and she appreciates knowing that there are people out there that appreciate how it looks yet. She and her dad have always taken pride in how the boat looks and runs, to hear that it will be on the water again would make their day.
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I'm just curious how the transom got damaged. That doesn't seem like rot given how good of shape the boat is in. Did someone back it into a wall with the motor raised? Does anyone know what the horsepower rating is on this since its a 16' 6" boat? My wife would shoot me if I brought that home but it sure is a pretty boat. Don
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It looks like a fun project.
Should we have a grinding party???????????????
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It got broken by getting backed into a tree while on the trailer. Its kind of a long story but that is the short version.
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The safety plaque on the dash reads 100 HP for the maximum allowed power.
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The motor in the pictures is a 75 HP.
The wife says I have to see it before I can bring it home.
** that doesn't necessarily mean I have explicit permission to buy - she just subtly reminded me what we got the last time I bought a boat without seeing it first.
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It does have a 75 HP motor, the boat is rated for 100. You are welcome to come and take a look, I can also send you any more pics or video's you would like before you drive here. If you would like to give me a call I will be happy to talk to you about it, send me a PM or e mail and I will give you my number.
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Dan ...
Always wanted to see what that hull would do with a 115 Hp motor !
The transom wood is mush !
Might have a soft floor under splah well also, but rear floor would need to be removed to do transom any how.
I have not seen this boat, but looked at quite a few before finding my old V-156 ...
I have many pictures of V-156's transom and floors if you want to see what under there.
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I am not an expert on the floors by any means, but this is my assessment, the back 1 foot is soft all the way across but other than that it all seems solid, I am 230# and I do not feel it move.
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Gregg, Do you split a tri-hull or can you replace the transom without separating the hull and top deck? It looks like you could cover up the damage to the metal flake on the transom with a metal transom plate which would save that trouble and look fine. Don
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I'll buy it! From what I can see on the posts, no one has made a commitment to buy this boat, so I'll take a leap and say YES!
As you all know, I need to get back in the club, and I'm recovering from the past year and a half... This might just be the way to do it! Not to mention, it's the same color scheme as the Silver Fox! It might just be destiny...
I'll NEVER take a boat out from anyone else in the club, so if WetRaider or anyone else is committed to buying, I'll step back, but This one looks good for me to get back into the club!
Excited!
B~
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I'll buy it! From what I can see on the posts, no one has made a commitment to buy this boat, so I'll take a leap and say YES!
As you all know, I need to get back in the club, and I'm recovering from the past year and a half... This might just be the way to do it! Not to mention, it's the same color scheme as the Silver Fox! It might just be destiny...
I'll NEVER take a boat out from anyone else in the club, so if WetRaider or anyone else is committed to buying, I'll step back, but This one looks good for me to get back into the club!
Excited!
B~
You need to get back leading the club...and like I told you before...you don't need a boat to do that Brian! :D
(But...this looks like a good one!)
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OK... I just talked to Jared, and he sounds like a great guy! I'm excited to say that I agreed to buy the boat! He and I will be meeting on Thursday to make the exchange.
GLASTRON REPAIR TEAM...... UNITE!!!!!
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OK... I just talked to Jared, and he sounds like a great guy! I'm excited to say that I agreed to buy the boat! He and I will be meeting on Thursday to make the exchange.
GLASTRON REPAIR TEAM...... UNITE!!!!!
You have no idea how many people are smiling right now! That is just plain old awesome. I will be more than happy to get my hands dirty on this one. Let me know if you need ANYTHING Brian!!
;D ;D ;D ;D
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THANKS JASON!!!!
Honestly, it feels AMAZING to be re-connected!
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Let me know if you need ANYTHING Brian!!
;D ;D ;D ;D
Actually... I need a TON of help on this one! Transom and rear floor.... HELP!
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OK... I just talked to Jared, and he sounds like a great guy! I'm excited to say that I agreed to buy the boat! He and I will be meeting on Thursday to make the exchange.
GLASTRON REPAIR TEAM...... UNITE!!!!!
Congrats Brian. That's exciting.
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Congrats Brian !
You need to start a new thread ...
I'll post some pictures I've saved over the years of transoms & floors ..
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Yehaw
let the dust start flying
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Congrats on the purchase Brian! Glad to see it saved. And Glad to see your back!
If my memory servers me this will either be #3 of #4 rebuild project on here for the end of 2013 and into 2014
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Awesome Brian!
I bet ole Gregg over in Woodbury is just drooling over that tri-hull w/metalflake. Down boy!
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Awesome Brian!
I bet ole Gregg over in Woodbury is just drooling over that tri-hull w/metalflake. Down boy!
Thanks Kip! It's going to be good to be on the water again! I never got a toe wet all last season... :(
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That's awesome. Congrats!
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Good to have you back Brian.
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I'm thinking of naming her...
Plan ~ B
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Plan - B. LOL
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" Do you split a tri-hull or can you replace the transom without separating the hull and top deck? "
Don't know ?
Wood in my V-156 was good ... So never did mine ...
I would guess to do it right "Yes" you would ...
But maybe you could slide it between outer transom skin and splash well glass ... Maybe ?
If rub rail and deck are screwed on , it shouldn't be that hard to remove deck ...
The guy's at "Rockwell's one day transom repair" could have it done in ... One Day !
... LOL
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Good to see this boat going to a good home, and GREAT to see you back Brian! ;)
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Nice project. Looks really clean. I bet if you are carefull you can even put the metalflake pieces back on again. A layer of clearcoat makes it look like there never has been a crack.
Can't wait to see some pics of this beauty cruisin out on the river/lake.
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I talked with Red for a bit last night... The key when you split the hull is to not let the boat get out of alignment when you separate it. He has a technique the hull to keep it aligned and not out of whack. I'll have to learn more about this idea. I'll also have to take a look at the boat when it get's here saturday to determine what's needed. His point, if I understand correctly, is to make marks and measurements as reference points to ensure that they match up when you put it back together.
The fact that the motor pushed thru the outer glass tells me that the transom was pretty bad to begin with. It's great to see gregg's old pictures though. It gives me a good idea of what I'm going to be dealing with...
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Ya, now there's one worth saving B. That interior is freakin amazing. Wow! 'Cept for the aforementioned transom problem the hull don't look too shabby either.
Best of luck with the repair/resto. Nice to have you back.
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Thanks Doug!
Anything you can tell me about a '78 Evinrude 75Hp inline 3? Jared says it runs good, but I don't know much about it. My last outboard was the '76 v-4 Johnson 85...
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The Sellner brothers can tell you alot about 3 cylinder Johnsons as that is what they raced, and sell you several rebuilt ones if you need them.
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Hey Brian!... Congrats! That's an original gem. Can't wait to see you cruisin' in it this spring.
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Seems like the 75hp OMC is what was on every single race boat that time on Forest lake. Well, at least in the 75hp max class. If it's anything like every other OMC I have seen it will be a great motor. If you want to feel good about the motor bring a compression gauge.
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Congrat Brian she sure looks pretty. If you need and help on the boat let me know. I am glad that your back.
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Brian
Do you have a garage to do the work in now that it cold and about to snow ?
Is there enough room for splitting deck & hull, plus a motor on a stand ?
I have a torpedo heater you can use, smell's nasty but heat is heat when it's 20 degree's below zero ... LOL
The deck & rub rail should be screwed to hull, my 72 V-156 was at least, not sure how open bow is attached on bottom.
Mine was just resting on floor.
If there's any tabbing on the deck to hull joints, you should be able to get a tool up there through the cut out's for front seat bases.
On my CV ... I cut back floor until I got to solid wood, and could see that the stringer was wrapped and solid, hope yours is the same with just floor rot under splash well.
That should give you enough room to get the wet foam blocks out also ...
Jeff from " Rockwell One Day Transom's" thinks this will be an easy one !
We'll know for sure once we start ripping into it ...
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More pictures ...
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Lets get her done by the boat show! She would look great sitting in the convention center!!
Brian's got a nice garage. Not sure if heated though. If you need heated space you are more than welcome to bring her over. I got hoists to get that motor off too (even though I am sure a couple guys could muscle it off).
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It would have to be heated to do the fiber glassing ... need at least 60 degrees.
If it's just a transom and soft floor under splash well, it shouldn't take long at all ...
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The guy's at "Rockwell's one day transom repair" could have it done in ... One Day !
Let's get to work ;)
Congrats Brian ;D
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Brian
Do you have a garage to do the work in now that it cold and about to snow ?
Is there enough room for splitting deck & hull, plus a motor on a stand ?
Jeff's garage in Lakeville is heated, and he offered to do the work there... My garage is certainly big enough, but it's not heated.
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Today's Thursday. Is it a done deal Brian?
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Brian
PM the link to Johnson/Evinrude repair manual ...
Online manuals ...
http://boatinfo.no/lib/library.html# (http://boatinfo.no/lib/library.html#)
I would replace all the fuel lines and filters, check fuel tanks for rust/crap. I would replace tank no matter what they looked like ... Just for "Good measure" or "Piece of mind" ...
Replace impeller, thermostat, gear lube.
Before replacing spark plugs ....
Soak pistons with deep creep, let sit for an hour and do it again, get around ring lands and down exhaust ports.
Fire up motor and enjoy huge clouds of white smoke !
Repeat ... at least one more time ...
Now put in new plugs.
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Today's Thursday. Is it a done deal Brian?
I believe the exchange is set for Saturday.
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Today's Thursday. Is it a done deal Brian?
I believe the exchange is set for Saturday.
So does that mean we meet at Jeff's on Sunday??
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In addition to what Hyperacme recommended, when you have the lower unit off, you can replace all the seals up top for very little. I just did that on the 140 I bought back in September. All the seals/o-rings on the drive shaft, shift rod and complete impeller kit.
Cleaned out the drain holes and also found mud daubers had plugged the aluminum tube that runs from exhaust to the vents above the torque tab.
For about $100, maybe $120 you can knock all of this out and know you have good parts in there.
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Today's Thursday. Is it a done deal Brian?
Yes, Jared and his wife (Susan, I believe) are going to trailer the boat to my house around 7:30pm on Saturday evening... Time to clean out the garage! :)
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Awesome! Glad to see you back Brian and it looks like a great project. Well worth saving.
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Well, "Plan ~ B" is home! Jared and Susan delivered it to my house this evening! It's better than I had hoped! They are amazing people! Very happy to have gotten to meet them both! They are even going to come for a ride in their old boat at Red Wing... Right Jared?
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Whoo hoo! Congrats! Sure looks nice from the pictures!
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It's so much better than I expected.....
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Is the outboard off the boat?
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Yes... it's laying in my garage
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Awesome!
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If that interior looks that good in pictures I can't wait to see it in person in august.
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After seeing your pictures and looking through brochures ... There's a cool stern door instead of transom curtain ... and a 18 gal. fuel tank !
Is tank under splash well ?
Did you poke around the motor mount holes ?
Look's great Brian ...
I'm starting to miss my old Try-Haul ...
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After seeing your pictures and looking through brochures ... There's a cool stern door instead of transom curtain ... and a 18 gal. fuel tank !
Is tank under splash well ?
Did you poke around the motor mount holes ?
Yes, it has a plywood door in the rear. The tank is under the splash well. The transom is powderized wood below the damage. At some point, it was very wet back there. Good news is that the floor is solid 1 foot forward of the stern door!
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I just wanted to say thank you to all of you for helping us find Brian while selling this boat! This is a really cool club and we got to meet some really cool people through this process. It is exciting to know that boat is in good hands and will run on the water again. I can't wait to meet more of you and see Plan B (and some of your other boats) on the water in August. We are looking forward to it. We will also be following the progress of the boat here as it gets fixed up.
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Kate and I just pulled out the boat. The driveway was pretty shaded, but we took some good pictures of the boats current condition. You may notice that the seats have been raised and shifted toward the stern. I'll be rebuilding the bases and wrapping them with vinyl (much like I did with Greener Grass). I like the elevated height, but they are too far back to extend out the back to back seats.
The sun fading is moderate where the flake was exposed beyond the cover. I'm quite certain that we can get it to come back. It's not rough, but it has a good deal of oxidization that should buff out. There are a few cases of dock and beach rash, but most of it is in the non-metal flake areas. If nothing else, I bet White Bear Boat works would restore that for a few hundred dollars.
All in all, it's better than I expected, and we are VERY happy!
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Here are my pictures... I e-mailed them to gregg to see if he can post them better. Let me know what you think!
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Nice looking boat,its to bad about the transom but once that's fixed youll have a great looking boat.Hopefully I will get to red wing this year and see it and all the other boats
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Nice Brian! You can tell that boat has been taken care of. The uphlostery looks mint and the metaflake will buff out like a million bucks! Looks great the way it is but why not make it really sparkle on the water? ;) Really the two most important things to have nice when restoring these old boats.
Congrats!
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Lookin' good. Time is now to drench that interior in 303.
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Lookin' good. Time is now to drench that interior in 303.
Absolutely... get it loosened up before getting it back into use and elements. And never Armor All... never! I know, it sounds over-dramatic. But seriously... never. ;)
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I know it needs a little work here and there, but you seriously got a great deal on this one Brian! Congrats again to you AND the seller, sounds like you both came out happy.
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Lookin' good. Time is now to drench that interior in 303.
Absolutely... get it loosened up before getting it back into use and elements. And never Armor All... never! I know, it sounds over-dramatic. But seriously... never. ;)
Congrats again Brian, you'll have that transom fixed and finish like new in no time I'm sure. Amazing club, very impressive group!
Just my .02 on the seats, I actually alternate between 303 and "Babe's Seat Saver Conditioner", probably use the conditioner more than the 303. My '62 has original seats, and when I first picked it up they were pretty hard and dried out. I was worried about them cracking with regular use, but I've noticed considerable improvement using both of these products. If interested, check it out at www.babesboats.com (http://www.babesboats.com)
Cheers.
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Wow, stop paying attention to the forum for a week and look what happens. Looks great Brian, next season will be great.
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I am so glad that Susan and Jerod were able to connect with all of you, and that you have the means and know how to repair her. I am the one who found her on Craigslist and thought at last, my dream metal flake boat and for a price I could afford! I can't begin to tell you how heart broken I was to get that call from Jerod but even more so by the boat repair guys near me who quoted me $3-5K to get her water worthy. I appreciate all the help this forum was able to provide me when I was in a quandry about what to do. If only I had that at my fingertips then I would have the boat and you wouldn't lol. ::)
I would love to see her in person so will be watching for more information and news on Plan B.
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So here is the latest update... I've just ordered a Curt trailer hitch for my new car, so... Hopefully in the next few weeks, the boat will be heading to Jason's garage repair shop! I might pull out the seats today and see what I can see...
More to come!
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Git-R-done Brian!
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I am so glad that Susan and Jerod were able to connect with all of you, and that you have the means and know how to repair her. I am the one who found her on Craigslist and thought at last, my dream metal flake boat and for a price I could afford! I can't begin to tell you how heart broken I was to get that call from Jerod but even more so by the boat repair guys near me who quoted me $3-5K to get her water worthy. I appreciate all the help this forum was able to provide me when I was in a quandry about what to do. If only I had that at my fingertips then I would have the boat and you wouldn't lol. ::)
I would love to see her in person so will be watching for more information and news on Plan B.
Nice to hear from you... I want you to know that I never would take a boat from someone, so I hope that there are no hard feeling that it ended up with me. This club is a very tight group, and very willing to share information and bring new people into the group... There are a lot of boats like this available, and I'm sure that the club will help you to find the perfect boat for you!
Cheers!
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Good deal Brian! Get after it! :D
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The way this winter's going ... You should have plenty of time to finnish it by spring !
Spring might not start until July !
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GREGG!!! Wash yer mouth out!
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Sorry ... It was the "cabin fever" talking ...
LOL
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Pictures of the T166 ...
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Must be in a heated garage if that's ice in his beverage on the back of the boat.
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Actually no... I brought the beverage out from in the house when I decided it was time to make the 1st steps... I didn't last out there too long. BUT, the seats are in the basement now awaiting their vinyl treatment... And the beverage is long gone! :)
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Ok... Kate (my wonderful girlfriend) wants to get the project going... Is anyone able to put together a boat fixing party this weekend? I know there is a breakfast planned. We could do it up here at my house in Wyoming, or I could pull it somewhere.
Let me know... Send me a text at 6512605266 if your available!
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I can be available as well as my place. After breakfast Saturday or Sunday. Also willing to travel.
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How is the project going??? ::)
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Well, I've made some progress on the boat today. I started getting the itch, and honestly haven't done anything on it in a long time. I was able to pull the rest of the interior trim as well as the gas tank. I cut out a section of the floor that was soft, and started picking at the underbelly. It doesn't look too terrible, but I've gone as far as I can without some assistance / advice. The main rot is in the bilge. I'm quite pleased that the stringers are in good shape. The only bad spot is where the center stringer attaches to the cross member at the fore end of the bilge. I sent gregg some pictures that hopefully he will be able to post for me...
Cheers!
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Here are a few pictures of the progress I made today. I'm really not sure how to go much further with the project since the transom and bilge look complex to me... But, I'll do some cleanout tomorrow and see what comes up...
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Email I sent to Brian with pictures of V-156 hulls ...
Brian
This is all the picture I have of V-156 hulls/stringers/bilge bowels/transoms.
Your floor drops down under splashwell for fuel tank to fit, but other then that looks the same as a V-156 ...
Maybe ....
LOL
Peel the fiberglass off bilge bowel and see what underneath it ...
Keep taking pictures as you go, will make it easier to remember when it comes time to put it back together.
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More progress ...
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Nice work Brian. Looks like you are just about to the transom. Gonna split the hull?
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Well, at this point, I may have White Bear Boat Works do the transom. I took it over to them on Friday, and it sounds like it's going to be a really big project. I plan on taking care of the bilge stringers and the floor, but the transom would be a bit of a challenge for me. We will see when the quote comes back. Jason and Mike at the shop are so grateful for all of the business that we have sent their way, so they said they would give me a good deal. I've never worked with a better shop than them!
Otherwise, I've got the motor partially cleaned up, the interior and all the vinyl is soaking in vinyl conditioner as we speak, and I'm planning out the seat base rebuild. The previous owner had lifted the seats about 4" to get a better sitting position, so I may make some custom bases that are a little taller.
It's coming along!
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What a nice find:)...i look forward to seeing pics of the finished product, and I love the metal flake color.
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Started soaking the vinyl in conditioner today. I had forgotten how nice it looks... Can't wait to get it back in the boat!
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I think if you split the hull it would seem a lot easier. WBBW is going to be at least 3k. Stick it through, I am sure you can do it.
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Only cost me about $500 in materials to do mine ...
Get all the old wood out, grind everything, get the supply's and post for help !
Few guys could get it done in two days or two weekend ..
You could buy a different boat/motor/trailer for $3000 !
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Before buying my present CVX-16, there was a similiar to Brian's transom damaged CVX-16 I was thinking of buying that White Bear Boat Works quoted repairing at $2,200, and that was repairing from the outside of the boat without spliting the hull. Doing the work yourself is the only way to go to keep the costs down.
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Ok... I picked up the boat from WBBW this morning. Mike, the fiberglass guy had his gal bladder removed on Sunday in an emergency surgery, so I wasn't able to get a quote yet. After talking to Jeff and reading what's been posted, I think that I'm going to try to do it myself. I'm a little intimidated, but I'm going to start by trying to figure out how to separate the top from the bottom. I'm going to have to figure out some kind of hoist system in my garage which I'm not sure about yet...
I had convinced myself that I could do the floor and stringers by myself, but man... this is going to be a big job...
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Over the fall, winter and early spring I dug out all the old rotted transom wood with "oscillating tool" and other hand tools ... http://www.harborfreight.com/power-tools/oscillating-tools/oscillating-multifunction-power-tool-68861-8493.html (http://www.harborfreight.com/power-tools/oscillating-tools/oscillating-multifunction-power-tool-68861-8493.html)
It also had attachments to sand/grind in tight hard to reach spot in corners.
Your welcome to use mine, if you want.
I removed most hardware, rub rails, corner trim pieces, wind shield, etc. and brought boat over to Jeff's house.
It was early spring and we weren't sure if temps. would be above 60 degrees, and he has a heated garage ...
The four of use lifted the deck off and set it on the ground, cleaned up resin plate, cut and glassed transom wood and had it back to my house the same day !
You should be able to get all old wood out with deck on, grind as much as you can, once deck is off you will need to flip it to grind resin plate on inside of splash well so remove wind shields.
Getting rotted wood out is hard, dirty work ... Putting back together is FUN !
My thread ...
http://forum.cgoamn.com/index.php?topic=3611.0 (http://forum.cgoamn.com/index.php?topic=3611.0)
http://forum.cgoamn.com/index.php?topic=4062.0 (http://forum.cgoamn.com/index.php?topic=4062.0)
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Thanks for the info Gregg...
Here is where I'm at... I have the deck nearly ready to pull off. It's not a tabbed hull, so removing the rub rail screws freed up most of it. The only problem that I have is that the transom is glued / glassed at the upper seam, so I don't know how to separate that. I was thinking about a jig saw or sawzall at the seam, but I'm not sure that's going to do it. I can't even see what exactly is the issue because it's up and behind the splash well.
Any ideas?!?
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the top should be tabbed to the transom, also is glassed to transom at the inside surface of the splash well.
yer transom is rotten correct, should be able to get it off with an oscillating tool.
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Yes, The transom is gone... There is some solid wood at the top, but the motor pushed thru the exterior fiberglass (see pics in the first few pages).
I guess I'm wondering what the best way to seperate that interior tabbing is. I don't think that I can get at it from the rear. Do you have to cut it from the underside?
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yes, are you familiar with the oscillating tool Gregg was talking about ?
i did not get one till after mine was done, but they are the way to go for that operation (IMO)
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I think I'm on the way to get the oscillating tool now!
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Then go to Marnnards and get some bit's/blade's for cutting steel, they last longer ...
Get out as much old wood as you can, when you split hull you can get the rest between splash well & transom out.
I was able to get all mine out, and none of it was rotted ... Took a long time to do !
You can slip oscillating tool between hull and deck in the rear and cut tabbing that hold rear deck to hull/transom.
Oscillating tool is very easy to use ... It cuts slow and is easy to control ... Did every thing (almost) with it.
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Does it make coffee?
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Does it make coffee?
no...
but after you use it for 3 hours you look like you drank as many pots ;)
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Ya ... Your hands are kind of " tinglie " !
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So... I have it ready to come off, but the transom is so stuck together I really don't know how to attack it. The 5" deep section at the rear of the splash well is glassed to the transom, and there is really no way to get at it. The only think that I can think of is a plunge cutter on an oscillating tool, but I don't know of any bits that are over 5" long. it's not just a few tabs, it's more like they had wet resin on the top of the transom when they put the top deck on, and once they stuck them together they dried and stuck.
I'm really not sure what to do next...
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I have not had to do this part, I would think cut up as far as possible from the bottom and cut the top loose from the back and try to pop the rest off with a pry bar.
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For removing windshields on cars they use a sawzall size multi tool. I wonder where you could get/borrow one of those.
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I cut/trimmed all tabbing out with Oscillating tool.
Your might be a little different ...
Cut around inner splash well ...
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Stuck Oscillating tool between deck and hull gap and cut tabbing, might have had to cut a little from inside/under splash well, but not much ...
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Yes Gregg... On mine, the entire underside of the splash well ( that you outlined in red) is stuck to the transom. I'm going to plug away at it tomorrow though... It's gonna come off somehow!
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I had all transom wood removed before splitting hull/deck.
The wood between splash well and transom had to be dug out with hand tools ... and was not easy as it was bonded/resin to both sides.
I would pry out splash well, dig some wood out, pry a little more, dig some more wood out etc. etc.
Not much fun ... LOL
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Quote: "I don't know of any bits that are over 5" long"
could weld part of saw blade to a short blade for the Osc tool and go all the way up from the bottom if it is to stuck.
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SUCCESS! Nothing a few jacks can't push apart! Unfortunately, my new multi tool did a little damage to the inside of the splash well. I suppose it's nothing that can't be fixed since I have to do some major repairs to the exterior of the transom anyway... Oh well. Progress!
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Good idea Brian to push the deck & hull apart with a couple of hydraulic floor jacks.
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Dig & grind all the wood and fiberglass out, get some measurements of total area that will need to be repaired and head down to ... http://www.expresscomposites.com/ (http://www.expresscomposites.com/)
Tomas got me very close to how much I needed to fix my boat.
Had to go back for more resin because I didn't factor in sealing drilled holes in transom, side trim boards, seat bases, etc. etc.
I LOVE this part ....
So what are you going to use for wood ?
AND ...
What are you going to use for resin ?
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Also they have the honeycomb composite board for the floor! it is stronger than plywood, will never rot, and is maybe 1/3 the weight. I have heard good things about this stuff and will be using it for a floor rebuild on my cvx 16 soon.
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So what are you going to use for wood ?
AND ...
What are you going to use for resin ?
I guess I should ask what you used...?
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LOL ...
What kind do you think I should have used ?
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LOL ...
What kind do you think I should have used ?
Oh boy...here we go again!
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Here we go !
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I would use treated ply, never marine grade, silicone, painters calk, epoxy resin mixed with 50/50 with poly resin, slow hardener, sheet rock screws, 5200, bondo and you can only do flooring installs on Tues, between 2:30 and 6 am with a 1/4 crescent moon. If you do it any other way your boat will sink!! You have been warned!!!
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I would use treated ply, never marine grade, silicone, painters calk, epoxy resin mixed with 50/50 with poly resin, slow hardener, sheet rock screws, 5200, bondo and you can only do flooring installs on Tues, between 2:30 and 6 am with a 1/4 crescent moon. If you do it any other way your boat will sink!! You have been warned!!!
RAOFLMAO
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I followed the above instructions to a " T ".
Except for the part about Tuesday ...
Did mine on a Saturday, but i don't care if it sinks because i have a good insurance agent !
LOL
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I would use treated ply, never marine grade, silicone, painters calk, epoxy resin mixed with 50/50 with poly resin, slow hardener, sheet rock screws, 5200, bondo and you can only do flooring installs on Tues, between 2:30 and 6 am with a 1/4 crescent moon. If you do it any other way your boat will sink!! You have been warned!!!
RAOFLMAO
I second that!! ;D
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I would use treated ply, never marine grade, silicone, painters calk, epoxy resin mixed with 50/50 with poly resin, slow hardener, sheet rock screws, 5200, bondo and you can only do flooring installs on Tues, between 2:30 and 6 am with a 1/4 crescent moon. If you do it any other way your boat will sink!! You have been warned!!!
Wait...did you build my CVZ before I got it?
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So... I've been looking into picking up a slightly bigger motor. I would be ok with the existing 75, but I would really like to have a bit more umph... I found this today and really hope that I can pick it up. Looks to be a great deal!
http://rmn.craigslist.org/boa/4567583311.html (http://rmn.craigslist.org/boa/4567583311.html)
I haven't heard back from the owner yet, but I'm hopeful.
I think that the 115 would be a nice power-plant on a 16' Tri-hull!
UPDATE - I just talked to the owner... The boat is still available, and I'm going down to see it tomorrow!!! He said that the floor and transom are solid (to his knowledge). It has a spare set of Glastron seats included, and the motor runs great with the exception of needing an impeller! WOO-HOO!
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If it needs a water pump does that mean he found out by over heating the motor? I'd be cautious Brian. I'd still compression test the cylinders and fire it up. Would be nice if you could water test it. What year is the motor? Boat looks like a 74 V173....
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Yea... Good thinking... It's a '72.
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Definitely do a compression test...
72?, Does that have CDI or distributor.
I have heard rumor that those distributor ignitions are a PIA.
Also, does it have power tilt and trim ?
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Brian, I like the way you are thinking with the 115! The boat would do about 30 with the 75 but the 115 would make it get up and go, it should be a lot of fun. The 75 can always be a nice back up if something goes wrong with the bigger motor. It has always been a reliable power plant for that boat.
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Brian, I like the way you are thinking with the 115! The boat would do about 30 with the 75 but the 115 would make it get up and go, it should be a lot of fun. The 75 can always be a nice back up if something goes wrong with the bigger motor. It has always been a reliable power plant for that boat.
Yes! I'm going to stick with the 75 for now... I kinda always want more, but the reality is that I should conserve on the funds and be satisfied with what I've been blessed with. I'm keeping my eyes open for a good deal, but for now, I'm planning on putting it back together as it is.
I think I would really like to get a Johnson / Evinrude 115 anyway. I have more experience with the V-4's than the inline 6's.
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So, I haven't posted many pictures for a bit... As you can see, the top is off, and I've been grinding, cleaning, grinding, cleaning, grinding, cleaning for several days. I've been watching some GREAT youtube videos from a user named "FriscoBoater" from the iboat forum. He did a top to bottom rebuild of a CVX-18 and put the entire process in a large series of youtube videos. AMAZINGLY helpful for someone who hasn't done this type of thing before. Here is a link to one of his videos, but there are several episodes before and after this one. This just happens to be the last one I watched. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qte2D3-zfyM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qte2D3-zfyM) . So, I'm planning on overbuilding this boat substantially better than it was from the factory. Many of you might already realize that Glastron did some pretty crappy construction on these things. I've always said that Glastron was the best, but when you start to pull them apart it's obvious why they rot away. For example, my stringers were not glassed in on the ends. They were bound to fail with just a tiny bit of water over time. So, with that being said, I'm following the lead of those youtube videos and building this think much better than it was done to start. My intention is actually to build it to handle a Evinrude 135. I'm finding that the OMC 115's are hard to find in good condition for a reasonable price. I've been doing some looking at the Johnson seahorse 135 from the 1977 vintage. The weight on that motor is 271 lbs and it's reviews are very positive. It's generally the same motor as the old v-4 johnson 85 that I had previously. The boat is rated for 100hp with the construction that is had, and I'm going to beef it up a little to handle the extra push.
It's been a fun project so far... I hope to be cutting templates and fitting them this week!
Cheers!
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Your kickin' ars Brian !
Oscillating tools are worth there weight in gold ...
Wood in the bow is OK ?
Have you talked to Express Composites yet ?
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Yep, Friscoboater is a CGOAMN member and on the National forums. He's rebuilt 2 Glastron's now plus the Sea Ray and has helped a number of us.
Very good guy!
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Your kickin' ars Brian !
Oscillating tools are worth there weight in gold ...
Wood in the bow is OK ?
Have you talked to Express Composites yet ?
Wood in the bow is just fine. I'm a little cautions about the stringers forward of where I cut them. in the rear, the stringer wood was soft where it meets the hull, and there was water sitting in the bottom of the stringer channels. Glastron didn't glue the stringers to the hull, and with the ends of the stringers not being sealed, water can get into the stringers and sit in there rotting the wood. I should probably pull the entire center stringer, but I really don't want to. The wood is 95% forward of where I cut them off, and it would be a lot more work to take out the rest of the floor. I think that I'm going to seal everything up really well so that no water can get in there in the future, and beef up the rear. I'm sure that what I'm doing will outlive the rest of the boat, but I don't want to do anything less than 100%.
I'll be talking to express composites this week. Nice thing about the youtube videos is that I was able to make a list of everything he was using, so I'm already pretty educated!
Thanks for the encouragement!
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no matter how hard you try to seal it up water will still find a way in so plan on water getting in and give it a way out. Seems like a lot of guys are filling the floor with foam now too. Quiets the ride and will keep boat from sinking to the bottom since you removed the flotation boxes.
Looking good though! Keep it up. Your on track for Red Wing!
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Well... This was unexpected! I've been doing a lot of research, and found something a few days ago that I was interested in. I put it off telling myself that I wasn't going to do anything with it. The guy called me today and said that he was moving and really wanted to sell... So, for $300, I brought this home tonight. I was told that it runs well, and the lower unit was taken off last year and worked on. It's not the prettiest thing, but a little scrubbing will help. It needs a new starter motor ($78 on the internet), and a air box cover. The beauty is that it has the tilt / trim pump. I've been doing some research and those are pretty darn valuable and sought after!
The boat is kind of a mess, but it seems pretty solid. The trailer is really nice! The motor is a 1976 vintage.
I plan to take the motor over to Wholesale Marine Repair in East Bethel in the next few days for them to give it a once over and tell me what I have. The old owner said it had strong and equal compression. There is no discoloration from heat on the cylinders. It does have some welding on the lead edge of the lower unit, but it looks well repaired.
Who knows... For $300, the trailer and trim unit will make me money. We shall see!
As a side note... I wonder what the T-166 will do with a 135 on it's butt! :)
Pictures included...
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" I wonder what the T-166 will do with a 135 on it's butt! "
Over 50 mph ...
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" I wonder what the T-166 will do with a 135 on it's butt! "
Over 50 mph ...
Gregg,
What were your speed stats on your old tri-haul with your motor setups?
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1971 65 HP Merc no T & T ... 37 mph
1994 60 HP Johnson with T & T ... I think 42 MPH ...
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Ok! I'm thinking if I could push 54+ with a 135, I'll chase down Jason in my old cv-23.
Dang this speed addiction. ;D
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Awesome! That is going to be a fun boat. Hopefully the motor checks out but if not I don't think you are out anything. Nice deal! You will need a starter to check compression. Hey, maybe Joe has a spare in one of those motors he's got.
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I ordered a new starter tonight. $86 with shipping...
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That was a good buy Brian, hope that motor works out, it'll be a fun ride.
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Hope you use better judgment on some of the corners ....
http://youtu.be/8auYH1PDCIo (http://youtu.be/8auYH1PDCIo)
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WOW! I know how rough riding Phoenix is going over wakes and on rough water. I would be sore after a ride like that.
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The '76 135 was probly the highest compression V4 OMC ever built for general consumption. 135 psi or so when new. Oughta push the T166 along purty good I'd reckon. I'd guess at least mid 50's with a light load. Possibly better with the right prop & set up.
Btw I believe the trim can be upgraded to newer model version(s). Not that the old external style doesn't work. Just kinda dated and "add on" looking. Imo. (No offense!)
Nice find!
What kinda air box cover are ya looking for? Would you prefer metal or plastic ...?
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if its a metal (76 should be) air box i'm sure i can spare one of those.
i have heard that rumor about swapping to the newer style, but can not personally confirm it at this time.
and yes Brian that trim unit is hard to come by, i see working ones listed from $250 to $400.
i sold the first one i had with the older style pump (yers is the newer prestolite) for $200 in just a few days.
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if its a metal (76 should be) air box i'm sure i can spare one of those.
Plastic one's weigh 225 grams ...
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I'd be more than happy with a metal one! Thanks! :)
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I lost 125 pounds, I don't need to worry about putting plastic parts on my motor :D
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Read through the rest of this thread. Portella sold the boat to Brian 2.5 years ago. Brian has since torn the boat down in an effort to replace the transom and floor. There has not been any updates to this thread in nearly 2 years. Not sure where Brian is at in the project or if he is willing to sell but I would recommend contacting him. bbergstrom260@gmail.com
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Brian, What;s the status?
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Power for project 73 cv-16 ... 75 135hp. Should be fun!
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Was not that 135 HP sold to Joe B who determined that it was not worth rebuilding? The boat came with a 75 HP Evinrude.
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Not Joe's old one. This one is good to go with good comp. in all cylinders. Just need to clean it up like the rest of the boat.
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Well folks.... The stringers are done! I got motivated and picked up the project!
Plan B is back in the game!
Now it's time to finish the floor and get the carpet back in!
Cheers!
Brian
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Well folks.... The stringers are done! I got motivated and picked up the project!
Plan B is back in the game!
Now it's time to finish the floor and get the carpet back in!
Cheers!
Brian
Hot diggity! Did you get the transom all sealed up?
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Good to hear your back at it, get it done look forward to see you this summer
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Ya... I got it all done. It's not perfect, but it's going to be fully functional. I'm not too proud at this point. It's called "Plan B" for a reason!
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I meant, i'm not too much of a proud person... i'm very happy with the boat. Life has been a journey. Looking forward to being on the water in my own boat for the first time in 4 years!
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You can always do an aluminum plate later for added sealing and to cover the repair a bit...no big deal.
Very cool...glad you got back after it.
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YAY! Great to hear Brian. Hope to see on the water again soon.
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ALL RIGHT BRIAN !
See ya on the water this year !
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Geeshhh look what the cat dragged in! Good to hear from you Brian glad to see your back at "Plan B".
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Lots of progress...
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That looks great Brian! What's left? Install seats, hang the motor?
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Pretty much... cleaning, final touch up. Gotta find a radio and battery.
Hoping to have it running by next weekend.
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Looks real nice Brian, glad to have you back in the fold.
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Looks nice!
The new tow vehicles look nice too!
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http://forum.cgoamn.com/index.php?topic=7113.0 (http://forum.cgoamn.com/index.php?topic=7113.0)
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Hey Brian, your not going to take your first ride with a lawn chair again are you?!
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That was soooo bad. Nearly killed Myself.
Not this time.
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That was soooo bad. Nearly killed Myself.
Not this time.
Bean bag chair is much safer ;-p
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Anybody know where to get the plastic flex hinge that is used for the pass thru windshields?
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Great Lakes Skipper
http://greatlakesskipper.com/larson-glastron-900114-opaque-white-1-inch-flex-boat-windshield-plastic-hinge-5-ft (http://greatlakesskipper.com/larson-glastron-900114-opaque-white-1-inch-flex-boat-windshield-plastic-hinge-5-ft)
Great Lakes Skipper on eBay
http://www.ebay.com/itm/LARSON-GLASTRON-900114-OPAQUE-WHITE-1-INCH-FLEX-BOAT-WINDSHIELD-PLASTIC-HINGE-/200826992329?pt=Boat_Parts_Accessories_Gear&hash=item2ec238b6c9&vxp=mtr (http://www.ebay.com/itm/LARSON-GLASTRON-900114-OPAQUE-WHITE-1-INCH-FLEX-BOAT-WINDSHIELD-PLASTIC-HINGE-/200826992329?pt=Boat_Parts_Accessories_Gear&hash=item2ec238b6c9&vxp=mtr)
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Ok! Thats awesome! Too bad they sell it in 5' sections. I love that the listing says "select how many sections you need". Who needs multiple 5' sections for an old glasyron or larson???
Ok next... i need the black rubber rub rail insert.
Ready..... go!
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Look here for all your Glastron / Carlson needs ...
Vendor and Repair Resources
http://forum.cgoamn.com/index.php?board=7.0 (http://forum.cgoamn.com/index.php?board=7.0)
Glastron/Carlson rub rails
http://forum.cgoamn.com/index.php?topic=3856.0 (http://forum.cgoamn.com/index.php?topic=3856.0)
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Rub rail and windshield hinge ordered. New seat bases built. Hardware going back on.... so close!
Even got the motor and electrical done. Cranks over really nice! Put some seafoam in the cylnders. Havent given it any fuel yet.
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Moving along quickly. Glad it's going well! Can't wait to see you and it on the water in August Brian.
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Well... having some issues.... got it to crank quite a bit between yesterday and today. Even replaced the fuel lines, added new fuel and got it to fire off a little. Then, started having issues. It seems that the starter or solenoid might be going.
Battery is over 13v. Bought it new at napa last week.
Intermittent clicking, varied spinning speeds. Now, nothing... just clicking when i turn the key.
Assuming I could use a new starter and solenoid.
They dont seem too expensive. Less than $100 for the pair.
Found them on amazon, but qorried about proper part numbers.
Help please!
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Jim Sellner, Jerry Sellner, and Don Larkin know 3 cylinder OMC's. I would start with Jim Sellner, he rebuilds them.
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I sent you a PM Brian.
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I could give you a hand troubleshooting it if you wanted to bring it down to my place.
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I could give you a hand troubleshooting it if you wanted to bring it down to my place.
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Where do you live again?
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North St. Paul
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Getting the starter worked on next week. Seats and rubrail look great!
Anyone have a spare bow cap for this rig?
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Beautiful boat inside and out!
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I have a couple.. Top one off a cv-16, middle one off a 185 I think, and one off a gt-150. One should work for yours, just need to see witch one.. The angle of the bow?
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Pictures of 1972 V-156's bow cap, your T-166 might be different.
Wide angle and long.
Edit ...
Your T-166 seems to be pointier ...
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I have a couple.. Top one off a cv-16, middle one off a 185 I think, and one off a gt-150. One should work for yours, just need to see witch one.. The angle of the bow?
I'll happily give #3 a try. I think its going to be the closest.
Brian Bergstrom
26160 Galen Dr
Wyoming, MN 55092
Thanks!
Let me know what I owe ya!
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I'm in search of this "L" shaped bimini pole connector. My boat has the adjustable mounts on the side of the boat, but one of the poles is missing the 90 degree angle insert. Has anyone seen one of these? I would prefer to not have to change the origional setup.
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Got the wood from the deck refinished today! As well as the bimini out of storage. It has some rips that I would like to repair, but I wonder if i'm just being too picky.
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You're getting very close!
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Got the wood from the deck refinished today! As well as the bimini out of storage. It has some rips that I would like to repair, but I wonder if i'm just being too picky.
Found it...
http://www.marineengine.com/products/accessory.php?in=3161061 (http://www.marineengine.com/products/accessory.php?in=3161061)
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Nice find
Gregg Brian!!
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Nice find Brian !
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Nice find Brian !
Ha ha...that's what I get for using Tapatalk...said you were the last to update the thread, before I replied. Guess not!
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Added to "Vendor and Repair Resources" section ...
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Found a picture of the bow cap ...
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Trying to find out the angle of the bow, then we can see wich one of the 3 I have to use. They all have a diff. Angle. Protractor maybe?
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Got the starter motor today.
Wet sanded 1/2 on tuesday.
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Great progress.
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Looking real good!
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Need some help...
Got the motor running in the driveway. Pretty excited. Took it a minite to get running. Pulled the plugs and cranked it without plugs. Good amount of moisture in the bottom cylinder. Put them back, and got it to fire and run pretty well.
Toom it to the lake and got it fired up again. Died every time i put it in gear.
Pulled the plugs and found grey "foamy" oil in the bottom cylinder.
Ultimatly, i couldnt get it to start up again.
So, It seems to me i have water gettong into cylinder #3. There was a lot of that samy grey oil on the inside of the prop from the exhaust.
I assume this is bad. I assume that cooling water is breaching the cylinder somehow.
Any thoughts? Feeling kinda defeated.
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Did some reading on iboats, and found that exhaust and head gaskets could be a problem. Apparently there is some type of exhaust plate that commonly warps due to heat. Might look into that. I am not an outboard mechanic, so this is frustrating.
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Did some reading on iboats, and found that exhaust and head gaskets could be a problem. Apparently there is some type of exhaust plate that commonly warps due to heat. Might look into that. I am not an outboard mechanic, so this is frustrating.
Literally dealing with this very same this on my fishing boat. I just upgraded to a 1977 70hp Johnson from a 1979 55hp Johnson. A long story short I ended up with water in the bottom cylinder. I got it home and started striping parts off it. I figured it was the head, nope. Anything after the head you have to get creative or just pull the power head to get to the bolts, which is what I did. Get the harness out of the way, same with the fuel, remove the bolt connecting the linkage with the shift shaft under the bottom carb, the beauty cover under the lower cowl, then the six bolts into the block and last the nut about 3" under the bottom spark plug. Remove power head, start with pulling the exhaust side. It is probably the gasket closest to the power head, that is where mine failed. The complete gasket kit is $65 for Sierra or between $80 and $100 for oem on ebay. I ordered the whole kit and will install all of them, after all, these seals are 40 years old, it is time. Have fun.
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On the positive side Brian...you had a boat in the water! How good did that feel?
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Literally dealing with this very same this on my fishing boat. I just upgraded to a 1977 70hp Johnson from a 1979 55hp Johnson. A long story short I ended up with water in the bottom cylinder. I got it home and started striping parts off it. I figured it was the head, nope. Anything after the head you have to get creative or just pull the power head to get to the bolts, which is what I did. Get the harness out of the way, same with the fuel, remove the bolt connecting the linkage with the shift shaft under the bottom carb, the beauty cover under the lower cowl, then the six bolts into the block and last the nut about 3" under the bottom spark plug. Remove power head, start with pulling the exhaust side. It is probably the gasket closest to the power head, that is where mine failed. The complete gasket kit is $65 for Sierra or between $80 and $100 for oem on ebay. I ordered the whole kit and will install all of them, after all, these seals are 40 years old, it is time. Have fun.
I finished mine up yesterday. I replaced all the seals that I couldn't get to with out pulling the power head again (leaving only the gaskets for cooling the head). I haven't had it in the water yet but did pop it off in the garage, seems to run the same as it did before the gasket failure. My only advice is to make sure the upper main bearing stays in place. I separated my block 5 or 6 times trying to figure out why the rotating assembly was binding. Figured out the upper main bearing was positioned a little to low. Non of this project was too difficult with the right tools. Mainly an engine hoist.
I'm done, sorry for the hijack.
Oh, and I wouldn't let that engine sit for too long with out oiling down that cylinder.
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Hey Brian, were you able to get it out? Sitting here with. Y father in law for Thanksgiving and I got thinking about the boat.