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Title: Marine batteries
Post by: Hyperacme on April 24, 2017, 09:58:35 AM
----Split from Brian's Plan-B to keep his thread clean---- I could see this topic getting lengthy!
-Jason-


After doing some searching / reading on battery's ...
Walmart has the cheapest / best rated marine battery.
Title: Re: Re: The T-166XL Sporster Deluxe Rebuild (Code Name: Plan ~ B)
Post by: David CVX-16 on April 24, 2017, 10:20:17 AM
I would also check Menards, that is where I purchased mine after researching batteries.
Title: Re: Re: The T-166XL Sporster Deluxe Rebuild (Code Name: Plan ~ B)
Post by: Hyperacme on April 24, 2017, 10:26:02 AM
Menards has the best selection of stainless steel nuts, bolts, screws, etc.
They also carry Startron fuel treatment and Seafoam products ...
Title: Re: Re: The T-166XL Sporster Deluxe Rebuild (Code Name: Plan ~ B)
Post by: dorelse on April 24, 2017, 10:30:33 AM
Well...you can't really say that any of the private label batteries are 'the best'.  EverStart (WalMart's private label) is sourced from a number of different manufacturers...including Exide...Menards branded batteries.

They're likely the exact same battery in different housing.  All I know is my WalMart one has far exceeded my supposedly 'great' Interstate one, and was much cheaper.
Title: Re: Re: The T-166XL Sporster Deluxe Rebuild (Code Name: Plan ~ B)
Post by: Hyperacme on April 24, 2017, 11:03:43 AM
Should have said ... Walmart marine battery's are one of the best rated by costumer reviews.
Would bet it's the same Mfg. as the Menards battery.

The best would be the Optima battery's
https://www.optimabatteries.com/en-us?gclid=CMae_LK7vdMCFVm4wAodGH4KxA (https://www.optimabatteries.com/en-us?gclid=CMae_LK7vdMCFVm4wAodGH4KxA)

But after seeing the price .. I didn't do any research ...
Title: Re: Re: The T-166XL Sporster Deluxe Rebuild (Code Name: Plan ~ B)
Post by: Jason on April 24, 2017, 12:08:50 PM
There are only 3 companies that make car/boat batteries. That doesn't mean they are all made to the same "quality" standards or are identical. I have been getting 10 years out of Fleet Farm and Napa batteries. I don't support Wal-Mart but that's a whole other topic. Yea, I've had bad luck with interstate as well.
Title: Re: Re: The T-166XL Sporster Deluxe Rebuild (Code Name: Plan ~ B)
Post by: fireman24mn on April 24, 2017, 12:45:47 PM
Most of my Glastrons have all had Fleet Farm batteries in them. Haven't had any problems. I always remove mine in the winter and keep it in the heated garage though. I did leave all the batteries on the big boat this year. They all seemed fine there is a mix of batteries on their but most are Walmart batteries.

I had a Optima battery years ago when I had a large car stereo and it was awesome could run the radio for hours instead of 30 min.
Title: Re: Re: The T-166XL Sporster Deluxe Rebuild (Code Name: Plan ~ B)
Post by: thedeuceman on April 24, 2017, 12:51:17 PM
I use Fleet Farm batteries basically because Fleet Farm is right in my neighborhood, have always had really good luck with them.


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Title: Re: Marine batteries
Post by: Jerry on April 24, 2017, 09:38:19 PM
Interstate  Batteries sell seconds with full warranty for $40. South side of 494 just west of Portland. It is direct from the factory.
Title: Re: Marine batteries
Post by: David CVX-16 on April 24, 2017, 09:46:28 PM
If you research batteries in Consumers Reports, some makes, like Interstate, will have top ratings in some sizes, and low in other sizes. The same is true with Die Hard. 
Title: Re: Marine batteries
Post by: Jerry on April 25, 2017, 12:33:40 AM
I think unless you have an electric trolling motor any car battery will do. Remember "Marine" = $$$$$.
Title: Re: Marine batteries
Post by: Hyperacme on April 25, 2017, 07:29:58 AM
My wife hate's Walmart, but like Sam's club ...

This was about three or four years ago, but price was about the same.
Looks like same one I got, with out going to look at mine ...

https://www.walmart.com/ip/EverStart-24MS-Marine-Starting-Battery/105864134 (https://www.walmart.com/ip/EverStart-24MS-Marine-Starting-Battery/105864134)
Title: Re: Marine batteries
Post by: cv-19 on April 26, 2017, 07:57:17 AM

 I have always used car batteries in my boat . Last one lasted 7 years and I now have a Walmart Maxx that's almost 6 years old.
Title: Re: Marine batteries
Post by: CVX Fever on April 26, 2017, 12:52:53 PM
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I think unless you have an electric trolling motor any car battery will do. Remember "Marine" = $$$$$.

Well that's pretty much it Jerry. If you don't need a battery that can take a continuous drain over a period of time and still start your engine a car battery will work just fine. I have a Sears marine battery for my CVX18, but a car battery could be used in that. One of these batteries in my SeaRay cruiser was able to run the refrigerator, vacuflush head, lights & electronics all weekend up on Long lake last summer and still easily start the SBC 350 when needed it to. With very little motoring. Not a car battery made that could do that.

I had a set of these in my 23' Larson Hampton cuddy and this is the second set in my Sundancer. So you could say I've been pretty happy with them.

(http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l93/blinddate/Apostle%20Islands%202006/diehard-1.jpg) (http://s94.photobucket.com/user/blinddate/media/Apostle%20Islands%202006/diehard-1.jpg.html)

Title: Re: Marine batteries
Post by: Plugcheck on April 26, 2017, 01:39:30 PM
     There are really three types of batteries in common use in boats.  Your plain old automotive starting type which work fine in most applications.  Next would be the deep cycle batteries that can withstand deep discharges that can occur running accessories such as stereos, trolling motors, refrigerators, etc. These are made for long/slow discharges and lack the high current for reliable starting.    The third is a hybrid and generally labeled as a deep cycle marine starting battery.  Each has its use and purpose, I like to use the hybrids, but occasionally they cannot provide the cranking amps to start my SBC when hot.  Flipping and fixing cars/boats on the side, I generate about 50-60 waste batteries per year, I've not noticed that anyone in the inexpensive side performing significantly better than the others.  Everyone has their flavor, but looking at the pile, it has a few of many brands.   Figure about five years or so and you got your moneys worth.   Take good care of them, don't let the auto type discharge too far, and I've seen some go 7 years.    Optima's are a different construction and in a different class.  You get what ya pay for.   As for recycled batteries, they work great for projects your selling, but I've never seen one last over two years.

One more thing- A trolling motor on a Carlson should be considered Blasphemy.
Title: Re: Marine batteries
Post by: DL-North on April 26, 2017, 03:14:04 PM
In addition to the "hi current" starting battery and the "deep cycle" long low drain battery,
I'm under the impression that the marine batteries are made more rugged inside, to better withstand the pounding of a boat. 
This is not to say a std car battery wouldn't work fine as a marine starting battery, but it "may" fail earlier than a marine cranking battery.

As for collecting 50-60 scrap batteries per year On The Side, wow, a very busy guy. :)

Dan
Title: Re: Marine batteries
Post by: Hyperacme on April 26, 2017, 03:28:08 PM
Ya .. read marine battery's have thicker plates and stronger cases.
Maybe some do and some don't ?
Title: Re: Marine batteries
Post by: 74 Carlson the II on April 26, 2017, 07:29:17 PM
Love my Optima blue top. That battery has been in the pickle for the past 10 years and has seen car action also as a emergency back up. Accidentally left it in the boat hooked up for one winter, pulled it out of storage and turned the key and it turned over like it was just charged. They are expensive and most other batteries will work just fine. A lot of batteries will last a long time, it just matters how you take care of them.
Title: Re: Marine batteries
Post by: Jason on April 27, 2017, 09:45:05 AM
I had an Optima Red top in the CV16SS that I got in a used car I bought. It lasted till it was 10 years old. Was always happy with that battery but have read reviews that they are not as good as they used to be.

The 10 year old Fleet Farm road Runner automotive battery in my Montclair has also survived about a dozen demolition derbies, no trickle charger or heated garage in the winter, and lots of sitting around idle the rest of the year. Best battery I have ever had.
Title: Re: Marine batteries
Post by: Rosscoe on April 29, 2017, 06:55:20 PM
I guess the other things that may make it "marine" are the type of terminals. I have wing nuts on several of mine.