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Offline Rich_V174SS

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Re: Just another day at the shop
« Reply #20 on: May 30, 2014, 05:13:48 PM »
The gear oil is going to expand when hot and leak out when you use the boat, therefore as the oil cools water will be drawn into the gearcase. I would be very cautious.
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Re: Just another day at the shop
« Reply #21 on: May 30, 2014, 10:06:09 PM »
What do you think Rich ?  Could it be the lower seal in the upper gear case, thats what the little leak is I think, on a boat I'm looking at, bearing worn, making a little whine running on the water hose, can't hear it in the water, just a small leak, table spoon over the winter.
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Re: Just another day at the shop
« Reply #22 on: May 30, 2014, 11:46:30 PM »
Diamond Chad posted a pic of the gearcase of a Merc outboard, which uses the same (or similar) shift rod seal & bushing as an Alpha One. When there's gear oil coming out of the front cavity drain it's usually from the shift rod seal. I've changed a few and have the special tool to replace it.
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Re: Just another day at the shop
« Reply #23 on: June 04, 2014, 05:19:11 PM »
Getting back to the original subject - the tank was pulled from the boat finally and more holes were found near the original hole. They are marked in yellow in the bottom pic.
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Re: Just another day at the shop
« Reply #24 on: June 07, 2014, 10:26:27 AM »
Rich
Have you been replacing these with plastic or aluminum again?
Do you have much of a problem finding a replacement that fits?
Ross
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Offline Rich_V174SS

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Re: Just another day at the shop
« Reply #25 on: June 07, 2014, 04:41:41 PM »
We've been replacing them with custom made aluminum tanks, but they are epoxy coated to prevent corrosion. On this particular boat we're going with a ready-made plastic tank rather than a custom one.
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Re: Just another day at the shop
« Reply #26 on: June 07, 2014, 10:43:04 PM »
After building the tank for Gary's boat out of fiberglass, I am Not anxious to build another one, just Too much time and expense, and yes, I coated the tank with epoxy, steel flex, but I have since learned that I could buy an aluminum tank, already built to to spec's for les money, I don't think
 I'll do that again.
Many of my response's I make to post here are, maybe, based on phone calls and emails ...
Auminum tanks are my preference, but poly tanks are good, just Really expensive to get one
made to your own spec's. 
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Re: Just another day at the shop
« Reply #27 on: June 08, 2014, 07:14:45 AM »
Shipping $ may be an issue (they're out of FL), but this place has a vast supply of various sized tanks;
http://www.marinesurplusinc.com/servlet/StoreFront
(Okay, I admit I'm a "Ship Shape TV" addict!)
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Re: Just another day at the shop
« Reply #28 on: June 18, 2014, 04:28:17 PM »
The new tank went in the boat today. A lot more room in there compared to the original tank. It was a real bear getting the old fill and vent lines out because they ran under the port-side console, but once they were out running the new hoses in was easy. It's all plumbed and foamed in. All that's left is to add a couple of cross braces and install the floor panel and seal it up.

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Re: Just another day at the shop
« Reply #29 on: June 18, 2014, 08:49:17 PM »
That whole job musta cost a pretty penny.
I bet you love your job most of the time. That is great!
Ross
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Re: Just another day at the shop
« Reply #30 on: June 18, 2014, 09:56:41 PM »
I like working on the engines mostly. I hate ripping out old gas tanks especially when it involves nasty stinky slimy waterlogged foam and unknown organisms. Funny thing about this boat is we sold it last August as a used boat and knew back then there were problems with the fuel tank so I think the shop is picking up some of the tab to have it redone for the customer who's been so patient with us.
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Re: Just another day at the shop
« Reply #31 on: June 20, 2014, 06:37:13 AM »
Finished! Cross braces are added and the floor panel screwed back down. We had some rain so I had to vacuum out the water before setting the floor in.

We've got another one coming in possibly next week, same model boat, same year, looking like it will also need a tank. Oh boy!
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Re: Just another day at the shop
« Reply #32 on: June 20, 2014, 08:16:26 AM »
Nice job Rich.
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Re: Just another day at the shop
« Reply #33 on: June 22, 2014, 04:27:15 PM »
Great work Rich!
I you know what your are doing fir sure:)
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Re: Just another day at the shop
« Reply #34 on: June 24, 2014, 05:18:40 PM »
Oh boy!!!!!!
Guess what I get to work on at the shop. Just came in today, another gas tank replacement in a 1988 Mako Center Console. The boat I thought we were getting for a tank replacement this week hasn't arrived yet, and this one showed up. So maybe this will be a regular thing. One a week?

Already got it uncovered. Tomorrow I get to remove the gas/water and dig out the foam to pull the tank out.
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Re: Just another day at the shop
« Reply #35 on: June 24, 2014, 05:58:28 PM »
Oh boy!!!!!!
Guess what I get to work on at the shop. Just came in today, another gas tank replacement. In a 1988 Mako Center Console. The boat I thought we were getting for a tank replacement this week hasn't arrived yet, and this one showed up. So maybe this will be a regular thing. One a week?

Already got it uncovered. Tomorrow I get to remove the gas/water and dig out the foam to pull the tank out.
But you do such a great job at it...so folks keep letting you do it..lol
hows that 4.3 conversion coming along?
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Re: Just another day at the shop
« Reply #36 on: June 24, 2014, 08:57:18 PM »
Well like the stuff I regularly end up fixing at work at least it pays the bills. Might not be the most fun but regular work is better than no work at all.
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Re: Just another day at the shop
« Reply #37 on: June 24, 2014, 08:59:20 PM »
I just wish this board had a scratch-n-sniff app so everyone could experience the same thing I do when I work on these tank replacements.  ;D
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Re: Just another day at the shop
« Reply #38 on: June 24, 2014, 10:01:07 PM »
I just wish this board had a scratch-n-sniff app so everyone could experience the same thing I do when I work on these tank replacements.  ;D

I believe you on the smell, it has to be gut wrenching at times. Probably like the feedlot tractors we get in our shop out at work. Just the look of that tank makes me think what a slimey stinky mess that would be.
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Re: Just another day at the shop
« Reply #39 on: June 25, 2014, 05:15:52 AM »
I just wish this board had a scratch-n-sniff app so everyone could experience the same thing I do when I work on these tank replacements.  ;D
lol I remember those things. I'm not sure that I would want to scratch-n-sniff app for that, but one for Gas and oil Mix would be good, for some reason I like that smell
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