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Offline RedOctober89

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Re: '89 Glastron Carlson 23CSS Project and Repair
« Reply #60 on: March 19, 2018, 10:14:37 AM »
Yea I agree, I would prefer to stick to a poly tank. I am getting my local marine shop to see if they can do a order in one for a better price.

Have been doing some grinding the past couple weeks, coming along nicely. Had some nice weather so we could keep the garage door open for fresh air. We have been running the shop vac with a dust bag. It actually works really well and takes away 90% of the dust.

Also supported the hull with some old wood that was laying around. The trailer does a fairly good job but wanted to make sure that the hull doesn't get a big warp to it. Just used some 4x4's along the strakes and supported it off the ground. Sorry for the bad picture!

Its coming along and getting excited to start putting in the new material!
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« Reply #61 on: April 07, 2018, 09:37:22 PM »
Well this happened today...

Been grinding as often as I can the last few weeks, it’s coming along nicely. But made the decision to split the deck to make it easier to work on. The seam was loose along the port side, so that needed repair as well.

Removing the cap actually went well!









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Re: '89 Glastron Carlson 23CSS Project and Repair
« Reply #62 on: April 07, 2018, 10:46:17 PM »
Glad to see such dedication to your project.  Not many would  in that weather.  Hope it progresses well and you can enjoy all your hard work and dedication soon. 
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Re: '89 Glastron Carlson 23CSS Project and Repair
« Reply #63 on: April 08, 2018, 09:34:29 PM »
Atta boy!
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Re: '89 Glastron Carlson 23CSS Project and Repair
« Reply #64 on: April 08, 2018, 09:39:20 PM »
Making great progress !

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Re: '89 Glastron Carlson 23CSS Project and Repair
« Reply #65 on: April 08, 2018, 09:50:35 PM »
My project has been on hold, and will continue to be for at least 2 months because of other priorities.  But your cap stand gives me inspiration.  I don't have a shop to work in, but after seeing your work, that's not an excuse any more.  My wife doesn't quite share my enthusiasm, as I'll be cluttering up the back yard.  Or maybe the driveway.  Thanks for sharing your project!

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« Reply #66 on: April 09, 2018, 01:01:52 PM »
Thanks guys! Definitely hoping to have it on the water this summer!

I always try to make the best with the tools I have at hand! I figured with all the wood my dad and I have laying around we could make something up to support the cap. Having the cherry picker made separating the top easy, but it could have been done with just jacking up the trailer and then lowing it out of the way. I also ended up supporting the cap from the existing wooden supports under the dash and across the back, the edge of the cap is very thin and I was afraid of crushing it under its own weight. 
Things got a little sketchy at times but nothing went wrong and didn't break anything!

Was able to get the hull off the trailer on Sunday, that was a piece of cake thanks to the roller trailer! Threw some boards under the strakes to keep everything straight and level, and some cross ties to keep the width.
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Re: '89 Glastron Carlson 23CSS Project and Repair
« Reply #67 on: April 25, 2018, 07:30:16 AM »
Things have been kind of slow the last couple weeks, been busy with other things, and we had a crazy ice storm last weekend, but almost done all the grinding!
We took off the back rest supports up in the cuddy there, planning on trying to make that cuddy feel as large as possible.
Also found that a section of the hull where the fiberglass was all broken up and dry, hard to tell if it was from a rock/grounding or if it was from the hull flexing. There is some 'patchwork' on the outside as well. I thinned some resin and poured it into that area to try and re-saturate it. I will lay up some glass over top of it too before the outer stringer goes in.
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« Reply #68 on: May 10, 2018, 02:24:30 PM »
Well my gas tank arrived! New from Moeller 50 gal with a 5 gal reserve. Can't seem to see the reserve though so not exactly sure how its separated. As well the back bones for the beast. These are 14' LVL's that are 1-3/4" thick and 7-1/4" tall. They are a little overkill, but they are dead straight and one continuous length.
Also put a few layers of glass on the hole and other damaged areas. As well as the first layer of wood for the transom. Making progress bit by bit!
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Re: '89 Glastron Carlson 23CSS Project and Repair
« Reply #69 on: May 10, 2018, 02:30:54 PM »
Well my gas tank arrived! New from Moeller 50 gal with a 5 gal reserve. Can't seem to see the reserve though so not exactly sure how its separated. As well the back bones for the beast. These are 14' LVL's that are 1-3/4" thick and 7-1/4" tall. They are a little overkill, but they are dead straight and one continuous length.
Also put a few layers of glass on the hole and other damaged areas. As well as the first layer of wood for the transom. Making progress bit by bit!

I bet the "reserve" is just a linger pickup tube. Kind of an extra warning before you REALLY run out of gas. My ATV is the same way.
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Re: '89 Glastron Carlson 23CSS Project and Repair
« Reply #70 on: May 10, 2018, 03:29:21 PM »
I bet the "reserve" is just a linger pickup tube. Kind of an extra warning before you REALLY run out of gas.
Yep. Be my bet.
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Re: '89 Glastron Carlson 23CSS Project and Repair
« Reply #71 on: May 10, 2018, 03:52:33 PM »
Make certain you get a good soak on the lvl lumber, laminated wood will absorb water quickly otherwise.  Tank looks gorgeous, should never be a problem, unless you introduce contamination in it.  Good to see progress.
Michael
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Re: '89 Glastron Carlson 23CSS Project and Repair
« Reply #72 on: May 11, 2018, 06:42:35 AM »
Yes I agree, I will soak them and after there all in they'll get a good coat of paint. I was hesitant on using laminated at first but got to thinking that they will hopefully never get wet in the first place!
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Re: '89 Glastron Carlson 23CSS Project and Repair
« Reply #73 on: May 11, 2018, 07:28:42 AM »
When you talk about soaking the stringers first, do you mean with resin to seal any voids or pores?

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Re: '89 Glastron Carlson 23CSS Project and Repair
« Reply #74 on: May 11, 2018, 08:29:36 AM »
"When you talk about soaking the stringers first, do you mean with resin to seal any voids or pores?"

Jim from Express Composites said to use a 90% / 10% mix of resin / styrene to thin down resin.

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Re: '89 Glastron Carlson 23CSS Project and Repair
« Reply #75 on: May 11, 2018, 08:54:15 AM »
Yea and to have the wood 'pre-soaked' with resin before you put glass on it. I was told what can happen is the wood can pull resin away from the glass and leave you with a dry layup and a poor bond on the first layer.
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Re: '89 Glastron Carlson 23CSS Project and Repair
« Reply #76 on: May 11, 2018, 10:37:08 AM »
According to Jim ... It's also important to squiggly out excess resin, as to much makes it brittle.
He gave percentage's of resin to glass for regular lay up (think 70% /30%) and percentage after vacuum bagging (think 20% / 80%).
Vacuum bagging will remove most of the excess resin, but would be hard to do on large areas.   

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Re: '89 Glastron Carlson 23CSS Project and Repair
« Reply #77 on: May 11, 2018, 11:00:57 AM »
Ahh yes that would make sense as well.
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Re: '89 Glastron Carlson 23CSS Project and Repair
« Reply #78 on: May 11, 2018, 11:15:56 AM »
Believe percentages were for cored lay up, but to much resin isn't good, wet it out and squigy out excess.   

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Re: '89 Glastron Carlson 23CSS Project and Repair
« Reply #79 on: May 13, 2018, 04:29:19 AM »
great information on the resin with presoaking, just bought some left over product from a guy on craigslist when he redid stringers and floor on a 95 Crownline.  He turned me on to Jamestown distributors in Massachusetts to get almost anything for doing this type of project.