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Offline V153

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« on: August 28, 2010, 08:43:32 PM »
A lil off topic I suppose. But hope you guys are paying attention. 'Cuz we're gettin screwed.

My house's 'market value' dropped $8900 last year. Yet it's assessed (read: taxable) value rose $1200 bucks! Huh? What?!
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Offline Jerry

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Re: Taxes
« Reply #1 on: August 29, 2010, 12:39:39 AM »
My valuation went down $17,000 and my taxes went down. Maybe you're electing the wrong people in Florida.  Time for a change Doug. Remember the rich go down there to avoid income tax. Think about it!!!
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« Reply #2 on: August 29, 2010, 09:03:08 AM »
They would probably tell you there is a lag. I contacted the county about my property taxes and they said (at the time) they were behind in catching up the taxes compared to property value. Sure ok. Do you have a "no new taxes" govenor too? Mine have more tripled since we've had "no new taxes". Getting screwed? Really? If you cut at the state level is it a suprise if taxes increase at the local level? Its all a shell game. The only city services I  have a sheriff and fire I suppose. No water or sewer or gas. What a deal.
I do believe mine might have decreased a bit this year because the property value went down, but it was minimal.
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Offline V153

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Re: Taxes
« Reply #3 on: August 29, 2010, 08:37:55 PM »
Ya "Shell game" is appropriate Ross. Worse yet is being taxed for crap ya shouldn't be. I don't have any kids. No offense but don't have much use for them ...  Yet I'm billed for State, Local, & District school tax. Three seperate 'fees'.

I also pay taxes to the South West FL Water Management District. AKA "Swiftmud". Yet my house is on well & septic.

I'm taxed for mosquito control, still get bit ...  South Venice light charges me for a streetlight 4 houses up.

South County EMS? Never had need. Venice Hospital Board? Gawd don't go to Venice Hospital, you might not come out.

My favorite thing about this years bill is a charge for "County" (whatever that means) at the top and then "County Debt" (sounds more ominous) at the bottom.
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Re: Taxes
« Reply #4 on: August 29, 2010, 09:59:49 PM »
For the last 5 or 6 years, our county tax assessor has attempted to increase our "assessed value" by the maximum allowed by law, 10%, regardless of what was really going on in the market.  I finally got smart and started challenging the increases (I try it now every time, regardless of what the increase is), and found out it's fairly simple to reduce it, if not eliminate it all together, saving us hundreds each year.

You'll have to see what the procedure is in your area, but here around Feb/Mar I get a notice of the increase for that year (it's always in increase) and there is a deadline to make an appointment (usually around the end of April) if you wish to challenge.  Make the appointment!   It's important to get a number of comparisons for similar homes that have sold recently showing lesser value, and to inlclude in the evaluation anything that would detract from your homes value that they may not be aware of... i.e. cracks in brick, need for paint, etc.  Take pictures and bring them with you.  I've been so successful, that our home has the lowest valuation in our neighborhood for the same floor plan... and there are at least 6 (good for tax purposes).  Granted, it's going to be increasingly more difficult to reduce the increase in valuation, but even if I'm not successful in future years, I've saved money up to this point. 

I've been trying to spread the word here, but am continually surprised at how many don't try. 

Have you guys done this?
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Offline V153

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Re: Taxes
« Reply #5 on: August 30, 2010, 02:47:07 PM »
Thanks Mark. Yeah I guess instead of waiting for my fairy godmother I should get off my butt and at least try to do something about it. 'Cuz it's clear to me our elected officials have no interest in lowering taxes. Even if they say they do. Why would they? Gotta keep grease on the wheels of this impending train wreck don'tcha know.

Anyway. There are actually two steps to the process in Sarasota County. 1st is to take it up with the appraisers office. If you get no satisfaction there you may then petition The Value Adjustment Board.

Some good news is in Jan 08 we voted in an exemption of up to $25,000 of 'tangible personal property' (TPP). Which means as a business owner if the asessed value my TPP. ie: Inventory, machines, hand tools, etc is less than 25K? I am exempt. WooHoo!

'Course in '09 the cost of my business license doubled. As did all my vehicle registration fees. DOUBLED!? Sigh ...  Shell game. Ya think?   
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Re: Taxes
« Reply #6 on: August 30, 2010, 07:52:52 PM »
Not too long ago I watched video of what I believe was a very candid interview with George Bush Sr. He was wearing a ball cap with that lil' Illuminati owl embroidered on it. He said, in a nutshell, whenever somebody 'gets', somebody gives. He's not referring to himself or his family getting or giving of course. Heck they just recently bought a 100,000 acre "ranch" in Paraguay? He means those of us taxable folks who work for a living.

Dunno 'bout you but I'm gettin' purty *Censored* tired o bein' the 'giver'.
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Re: Taxes
« Reply #7 on: September 01, 2010, 07:38:02 PM »
Well it seems to be common practice in some years past that I dont need to mention, that those that "got" were about the top 1% wage earners and the rest of us are the ones that give.
Yup, gets old. Challenging them can be a pain. Time off work etc. Liek you said Mark, you need to have proof/documentation.
I beleive, generally speaking, you can find out what your neighbors are being asssesed but then you need to know their criteria. Is it square footage only? Condition? I dont know. The condition of the neighbors houses effect the values of ours as well so if you any "trailer park" types near you, that should help?

I hear you Doug. The school district or whatever they call it, makes up for a huge majority of my taxes. I think it should be more a "user fee" I dont use, I shouldnt pay. Whats so wrong about that?
Ross
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