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Title: WHAT TO DO??
Post by: Burnin Daylight on February 07, 2012, 09:18:48 AM
Guys if you remember I went to Phoenix a couple of months ago and brought home a 1984 CV23. Soon to be christened HOT KNOTS.  She is all original and I am planning on trying to keep her as close to original as I can.  My shoulder replacement is healing nicely and soooo now it is time to think about fixing up some of the small things that need to be done to her.  Right now my main concern is the windshield which is the upright version and I plan to keep it, but it is crazed.  I don't think it is beyond saving by any means.  Any suggestions on what methods to use to save this windshield????


(http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p286/Hyperacme/CGOAmn/100_0184Medium.jpg)
Title: Re: WHAT TO DO??
Post by: Hyperacme on February 07, 2012, 03:19:21 PM
I have the same thing on my windshield ...
Don't think buffing would help, look's like they go all the way through.
Used Buckeye 2000 ( like Protect303 or Armor All ) 3 times. It helped but not enough ...
Your windshield shape/ style looks pretty easy to replace.

Hope some one has a better answer ....
Title: Re: WHAT TO DO??
Post by: TomLund on February 07, 2012, 04:38:06 PM
Maybe you could buffet with noveous #3 then go to #2 (sorry if i missed spelled it) it helps with crazing and fine scratches thats what i used on my goldwing and it saved my windsheild from me buying a new one. Just my 2cents


Tom
Title: Re: WHAT TO DO??
Post by: vwbug on February 07, 2012, 09:56:21 PM
Checked this out.
http://www.fiberglassics.com/research/66-windshield-101-shining-up-that-old-windshield.html

 ;D
Title: Re: WHAT TO DO??
Post by: Burnin Daylight on February 08, 2012, 08:38:28 AM
VW.  Thanks for posting that article.  It seems that something like that is just what I am looking for.  The boat is in storage and if I can get the windshield off of it, then I can probably have it completed by spring and ready to place back on the boat when it comes out of storage.
Thanks again,
Barb
Title: Re: WHAT TO DO??
Post by: Hotwired on February 08, 2012, 11:45:04 AM
I have the port half of the forward leaning windshield if you want to reproduce it.  It is in 3 pieces but would make a good pattern and would be easy to ship!!  ;D
Title: Re: WHAT TO DO??
Post by: Burnin Daylight on February 08, 2012, 12:28:42 PM
Thanks for the offer Chris but I actually prefer the style that is on it.  I think OleRed said he might have the pieces for the forward windscreen over at his place.  I know that I can get it replaced but I really want to save this one, and would rather spend those funds for other things for the boat.  Sometimes not having the wind in your face on cool days is advantageous. Either the seats are low or I'm too short, but I have to look through the windshield to see out front.
Title: Re: WHAT TO DO??
Post by: Jason on February 08, 2012, 02:58:19 PM
I couldn't get mine out either and ended up replacing the windshield as I had to look through it too. The "grazing" in mine looked like a buch of tiny cracks within the plexi.
Title: Re: WHAT TO DO??
Post by: Burnin Daylight on February 08, 2012, 05:03:47 PM
What methods did you try Jason??
Title: Re: WHAT TO DO??
Post by: V153 on February 08, 2012, 06:32:16 PM
I'd wash the w/s with soap & warm water, let dry, then saturate with 303. Both sides, repeatedly.

Novus is good stuff, just used some of it on the Baja w/s. Din't need #3 but took a good long #2 followed by a #1 ...

   
Title: Re: WHAT TO DO??
Post by: Hyperacme on February 08, 2012, 06:59:01 PM
Is " crazing " many small cracks about a 1/4 inch long that are in side the windshield ?
Hard to get pictures of problem ...


(http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p286/Hyperacme/CGOAmn/crazing.jpg)
Title: Re: WHAT TO DO??
Post by: Jason on February 08, 2012, 07:57:48 PM
yea, the light needs to be right to see them. Mine was still smooth to the touch. I didn't try much more than cleaning the glass and a little bit of rubbing with different wax and compounds I had at home. On mine, when you look at them closely you could see the cracks INSIDE the glass. Maybe you have something different.

(http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t124/lincolnman1969/1967%20V172/P1070583.jpg)
Title: Re: WHAT TO DO??
Post by: 75starflight on February 08, 2012, 08:33:18 PM
I have the same problem on the side windscreens on the starflite. Just on the exposed edge of the plexiglass and only about a half inch in.
Title: Re: WHAT TO DO??
Post by: carlsoncvx18 on February 08, 2012, 09:20:23 PM
Google what is crazing of plexiglass

Does not appear there is much you can do to remove it other than replace your windscreen.

Mainly caused from UV rays taking its toll on your windscreen.
Title: Re: WHAT TO DO??
Post by: V153 on February 08, 2012, 09:46:51 PM
Does not appear there is much you can do to remove it other than replace your windscreen
Nonsense!

Humor me. Before ya replace it try soaking with some 303. I've seen that stuff eliminate some 'crazingness'.

Wind shields/screens are for wussies anyway ...
Title: Re: WHAT TO DO??
Post by: carlsoncvx18 on February 09, 2012, 12:28:42 AM
Doug

Wish I would have know about 303 before I replaced my interior on my 25yr old boat.  That was all sun faded ,dry rotted , and cracked up as I could have put several coats of on and it would of looked like new and I would still have my original interior. Would have saved me a lot of money so I could have replaced my crazed up windscreen. But then again I could have used it on windscreen to.

Barb

Gregg and I are looking for a summer project we will buff and wax out your beautiful 23 and I just ordered a bottle of 303 and we could try to take care of your windshield.  Your shoulder is not quite ready for that work out.  You could bring it up say around the middle of May and come back and get it in the middle of Sept. should be enough time to get done, don't you think Gregg.
Title: Re: WHAT TO DO??
Post by: Burnin Daylight on February 09, 2012, 07:36:43 AM
What is 303?  And if it's that good can you get it in 304? Can't leave it with you Jeff, OleRed has some tweaking to do to it come spring, maybe one or two more HPs, but you will probably get a chance to see it in June in Iowa at that meet.  Bring your buffing box.
Title: Re: WHAT TO DO??
Post by: Bayflite73 on February 09, 2012, 08:23:27 AM
Just found this website after searching "303 buffing compound". Is that the stuff?

http://www.303products.com/shop303/index.cfm/category/122/303-aerospace-protectant-on-plexiglass.cfm
Title: Re: WHAT TO DO??
Post by: MarkS on February 09, 2012, 02:12:28 PM
That's the stuff Josh, Doug gave me the heads up on it a couple years ago, that stuff is MAGIC!  Best price I've found;
http://www.wholesalemarine.com/p/303-030340/
Title: Re: WHAT TO DO??
Post by: Hyperacme on February 09, 2012, 03:16:07 PM
I put 3 heavy coats of Buckeye 2000 on my windshield, hoping it would sink into small cracks and help ...
It did a little but not enough ...
My windshield has a crack in it so will have to replace at some point any how.
Title: Re: WHAT TO DO??
Post by: V153 on February 09, 2012, 05:19:24 PM
The key is NOT to apply in sunlight. The more shade the better, under a carport or in a garage is best.

I cut a white terrycloth towel up into 3-4" squares to use as applicators. Just spray the juice on & try to soak as much as you can into the material. Then wait til it really soaks in for awhile & buff dry with a clean cloth.

It can't cure everything but I've seen the stuff make some purty nasty windshields look good again. Not to mention vinyl interiors, clear vinyl curtains, rubrail inserts, etc. Hell back in my jetski days I'd soak the whole dang ski with 303. It's a great product that I recommend to all of my customers. Try it you'll like it ...   
Title: Re: WHAT TO DO??
Post by: Burnin Daylight on February 29, 2012, 06:32:48 PM
I went to the lake house this past weekend and pulled the windshield, wood, and some of the hardware off the CV23.  Looks like the windshield is not going to be able to be saved, soooo Frankie at Eaton Quade plastics is making me a new one.  Here is a sample of the new acrylic, it's slightly tinted.  I think it will give the boat a sportier look and I just like it better than the clear.  Also started stripping, sanding and got the first coat of Helmsmans clear on the wood.


(http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p286/Hyperacme/CGOAmn/CV23WINDSHIELDMedium.jpg)
(http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p286/Hyperacme/CGOAmn/CV23NEWWINDSHIELDSAMPLEMedium.jpg)
(http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p286/Hyperacme/CGOAmn/CV23WOODBEFOREMedium.jpg)
(http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p286/Hyperacme/CGOAmn/CV23WOODAFTER1Medium.jpg)

Title: Re: WHAT TO DO??
Post by: OleRed on February 29, 2012, 09:38:00 PM
That wood Sure looks different than it did the other day Barb .. Great Work  !
Title: Re: WHAT TO DO??
Post by: MarkS on March 01, 2012, 07:30:32 AM
Lookin' good Barb, how's the shoulder coming along?  I used the Helmsman gloss on my hatch door and trim strips, about four coats.  In hindsight, I think the satin might have looked better?(http://i978.photobucket.com/albums/ae264/MarkSmith_2010/Glastron%20V178/Johnson020.jpg)
Title: Re: WHAT TO DO??
Post by: V153 on March 01, 2012, 04:13:01 PM
Lookin' good Barb. Dang that thing's gotta lotta lumber in it! Ya, believe I'd go with a satin/matte finish too Mark.

Too bad the w/s was toast. But least it's in one piece, well 4 pieces actually but y'all know what I mean. Realize this might be a lil premature but what kinda #$ are your boys talkin for the replacement(s)?

Keep up the good work. Carry on.
Title: Re: WHAT TO DO??
Post by: Burnin Daylight on March 01, 2012, 05:17:20 PM
I'm using semi gloss on the wood.  Did the light sanding on the first coat and applied the second coat today.  The windshield is actually 2 pieces of acrylic, it is the stand up type and not the leaning forward one. Because it fits into a frame it is not as thick as the windscreens on the CVXs.  I'm a pretty good customer of Frankies, he did both sides of the dash on Burnin Daylight and some other small things, so my price is $140 a side. He knows I have some hefty Drs bills to have to take care of right now and my acrylic vent cover has a crack in it and he might the business of reproducing one of those.  Don't know what he would charge as a rule.  I also told him not to get in a hurry that I won't be needing it for another 45 days. The windshield and the wood will be the last things to go on after wet sand and buff, the graphics for the name and registration numbers which must match, and OleRed works his magic on it.
Title: Re: WHAT TO DO??
Post by: Burnin Daylight on March 15, 2012, 01:35:06 PM
I came down to the lake house to start on the finish on HOT KNOTS.  The registration numbers and that sun devil thing are painted.  What a pain in the rear.  Worked most of yesterday just to get the paint off, and got to spend a few hours wet sanding and buffing from the windshield forward..

Finally got her stripped of her former identiy.  I guess now she is the CV23 formerly known as the sun devil.


(http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p286/Hyperacme/CGOAmn/100_0246Medium.jpg)
(http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p286/Hyperacme/CGOAmn/100_0248Medium.jpg)
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Title: Re: WHAT TO DO??
Post by: Burnin Daylight on March 15, 2012, 01:49:29 PM
Thank you Jeff Rockwell for the products and the advice.  After much wet sanding, according to Jeff "sand, sand, sand, and when you think youre done, sand some more" and compounding and buffing, she is starting to look much better.


(http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p286/Hyperacme/CGOAmn/100_0258Medium.jpg)
(http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p286/Hyperacme/CGOAmn/100_0260Medium.jpg)
(http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p286/Hyperacme/CGOAmn/100_0263Medium.jpg)
(http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p286/Hyperacme/CGOAmn/100_0265Medium.jpg)


Title: Re: WHAT TO DO??
Post by: Carlson_from_Germany on March 15, 2012, 02:04:33 PM
Barb, I might be mistaken but your boat isn't a CV23, it's either a CVX23 or a CSS23. As far as I know the CV23 always had the windscreen the other way around, the others the opposite.

Correct me if I'm wrong.

Aaron
Title: Re: WHAT TO DO??
Post by: dorelse on March 15, 2012, 02:12:28 PM
Barb, I might be mistaken but your boat isn't a CV23, it's either a CVX23 or a CSS23. As far as I know the CV23 always had the windscreen the other way around, the others the opposite.

Correct me if I'm wrong.

Aaron

The '84 Catalog says its still a CV-23...I don't believe the windshield dictates the model on the 23's as it was an option for either way for a few years.
Title: Re: WHAT TO DO??
Post by: dorelse on March 15, 2012, 02:15:45 PM
Barb, I might be mistaken but your boat isn't a CV23, it's either a CVX23 or a CSS23. As far as I know the CV23 always had the windscreen the other way around, the others the opposite.

Correct me if I'm wrong.

Aaron

The '84 Catalog says its still a CV-23...I don't believe the windshield dictates the model on the 23's as it was an option for either way for a few years.


Hmm...all the catalogs say its a CV-23 still...I thought it didn't change to a CVX-20 until like '87?  and then was only available with the windshield like Barbs?
Title: Re: WHAT TO DO??
Post by: Carlson_from_Germany on March 15, 2012, 02:21:48 PM
The '84 Catalog says its still a CV-23...I don't believe the windshield dictates the model on the 23's as it was an option for either way for a few years.

Is that right? I never realized that it was an option... But the later models weren't named CV anymore and always had the windshield the "right" way around like boats do today.
Title: Re: WHAT TO DO??
Post by: Burnin Daylight on March 15, 2012, 06:07:28 PM
Says CV23 on the dash and registration.  Must be right.
Title: Re: WHAT TO DO??
Post by: OleRed on March 15, 2012, 09:56:48 PM
Looking Great Barb,  you got a Lot done on that baby, you better be proud of yourself, you are doing a great job.
Title: Re: WHAT TO DO??
Post by: Hyperacme on March 15, 2012, 10:02:12 PM
It a lot of work ...
BUT the results are worth it !
GOOD JOB !
Title: Re: WHAT TO DO??
Post by: V153 on March 15, 2012, 10:51:22 PM
Ya lookin good Barb. Cain't wait to see an interior shot with the refinished lumber. Might be my imagination but that color looks an awful lot like the "Sunset Red" on my C-500. Hmm ...


(http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p286/Hyperacme/CGOAmn/C500OrigGel.jpg)
Title: Re: WHAT TO DO??
Post by: OleRed on March 15, 2012, 11:13:55 PM
Quote
Barb, I might be mistaken but your boat isn't a CV23, it's either a CVX23 or a CSS23.

I think the first swept windshield on the CV-23 showed up in 1981, after the CV-27 made it's day view in 1979 with the swept windshield, I hear that look was offered as a custom option, after the jet drives were discontinued, 1981, as well was the CV-23-HT,  but it was still called a CV-23.  I believe the first CVX-23 came out in 1985 or 86 with the swept windshield, other than a custom build, the signature series, CSS-23 in 1989, as did the CSS-19 and I believe the CSS-28, but all the CSS models had a completely different color scheme, but still kept the "glastron " look on the sides of the hull.

Believe it or not,  the Glastron dealer here in Oks told me at the boat show that he bought out a Glastron dealer in Texas  some years back, four semi truck loads of parts, in the purchase was included a several brand new old boats, two of them are a 1960 Fireflite with a hard top, and a CSS-28 both are brand new, never been rigged out, or ever even seen any water.  and No !  he is not interested in selling them, or even looking for any NOS parts that he may have for our old boats, including a Scimitar windshield, and something else kinda funny, Barb has probably crawled over all those parts installing the phone system in that warehouse.  


Title: Re: WHAT TO DO??
Post by: Hotwired on March 15, 2012, 11:19:10 PM
Looking great Barb!!
Title: Re: WHAT TO DO??
Post by: Carlson_from_Germany on March 16, 2012, 02:16:09 AM

I think the first swept windshield on the CV-23 showed up in 1981, after the CV-27 made it's day view in 1979 with the swept windshield, I hear that look was offered as a custom option, after the jet drives were discontinued, 1981, as well was the CV-23-HT,  but it was still called a CV-23.

Believe it or not,  the Glastron dealer here in Oks told me at the boat show that he bought out a Glastron dealer in Texas  some years back, four semi truck loads of parts, in the purchase was included a several brand new old boats.. Barb has probably crawled over all those parts installing the phone system in that warehouse. 

Okay. OleRed you are not only the godness of the Scimitar, also you are the CV23 man! Thanks. There's always something to learn out on these forums.

Wow! That really is a shame. Imagine you got two brand new Firelights sitting in your garage.

Hahaha that really is funny!

Aaron
Title: Re: WHAT TO DO??
Post by: Burnin Daylight on March 16, 2012, 08:07:20 AM
That same Glastron dealer sold Burnin Daylight when she was new.  He offered me factory delivered price on the registration to buy her back. She's not for sale.
Title: Re: WHAT TO DO??
Post by: OleRed on March 16, 2012, 08:30:13 AM
I'd forgot about that Barb, he was Really fond of your boat.
Title: Re: WHAT TO DO??
Post by: Bayflite73 on March 16, 2012, 09:33:16 AM
Good for you Barb! You'd kick yourself forever if you sold!
Title: Re: WHAT TO DO??
Post by: still_fishin on March 17, 2012, 09:41:10 AM
He can have mine as it sits right now for "factory delivered price.". Btw, what was factory delivered price back then
Title: Re: WHAT TO DO??
Post by: Hyperacme on March 17, 2012, 10:01:53 AM
A 1978 Glastron SSV 189 with a Merc 898 and Power steering ( is that a 305 V8 ? ) has a list price of  $9699 ...
The 1978 V195 was  $9799 with same options ...

Glastron price & Specs ...

http://forum.cgoamn.com/index.php?topic=2922.0 (http://forum.cgoamn.com/index.php?topic=2922.0)
Title: Re: WHAT TO DO??
Post by: Burnin Daylight on March 17, 2012, 11:13:05 AM
Factory delivered remains on Oklahoma title for purpose of determining yearly registration fees.  FDP on my title for Burnin Daylight is somewhere aroun $18,500.
Title: Re: WHAT TO DO??
Post by: Hyperacme on March 17, 2012, 11:20:29 AM
"  FDP on my title for Burnin Daylight is somewhere around $18,500. "

WOW !
That was a ton of cash in 1981 dollars !
I got a brand new 1979 Chev Elcamino for about $3500 !
Title: Re: WHAT TO DO??
Post by: still_fishin on March 17, 2012, 03:37:59 PM
Ok, I will even finish the rebuild. I know I'm being too generous here, but hey, that's the kind of guy I am.  ;D
Title: Re: WHAT TO DO??
Post by: OleRed on March 17, 2012, 10:22:12 PM
Quote
WOW !
That was a ton of cash in 1981 dollars !
I got a brand new 1979 Chev Elcamino for about $3500 !
 

I sold a great looking ElCamino two years ago for $9,500, an 85 model, with a new motor, I built, the state of Ok showed it at $4,700   here's the video ... Tom's Motor (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ci1rPjJqSJ4#)
Who knows where all that comes from. but I'm paying $89.00 a year on both my Scimitars based on their evaluation of $18,900 for the 81 and $18,600 on the 80 model

gotta do what ya gotta do !
Title: Re: WHAT TO DO??
Post by: OleRed on March 17, 2012, 10:35:50 PM
One More Thing ... David was willing to pay $25,000 for Barbs's boat, he didn't write a check, but thats what he told me he'd pay, Barb declined his offer of $18,500,  didn't bat an eye, but when she heard the $25 000 she looked kinda funny, .. kinda made me proud to be associated with her, and if you aint seen that boat, ... you need too ..... see it
Title: Boat name and State Registration
Post by: Burnin Daylight on March 20, 2012, 05:24:29 PM
I ordered my graphics for HOT KNOTS today.  I like them.  Hope they look as good on the boat as they did online when I was designing them.  The name graphic is 5" letters and is about 75" long.  It will be placed under the windshield where I removed the other graphics.  I hope I can get away with the flaming registration numbers.  Surely the lake patrol can appreciate them.  I also ordered new chrome bilge vent covers that came in the mail last week while I was at the lake, and I picked up the stereo reciever head today.  No pricey stereo, speakers and amp in this one, just something with updated media player.  I'll see how the speakers sound after I get it hooked up.  Lots of work yet to get her where I want her.


(http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p286/Hyperacme/CGOAmn/553377.jpg)
(http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p286/Hyperacme/CGOAmn/REGNO.jpg)

Title: Re: WHAT TO DO??
Post by: Hyperacme on March 20, 2012, 06:04:53 PM
Barb
Are you aware of the " Boat renaming ceremony " ?
Must be done !
Title: Re: Boat name and State Registration
Post by: V153 on March 20, 2012, 10:20:50 PM
I hope I can get away with the flaming registration numbers.  Surely the lake patrol can appreciate them
Good luck with that. Hopefully your water cops are more appreciative than ours. Cuz I guarantee those flames wouldn't fly down here ...?
Title: Re: WHAT TO DO??
Post by: V153 on March 20, 2012, 10:31:28 PM
Barb
Are you aware of the " Boat renaming ceremony " ?
Must be done !
I agree.The ceremony should be performed whenever naming, or denaming a boat. Bad karma not to ...?
Title: Re: WHAT TO DO??
Post by: Burnin Daylight on March 21, 2012, 07:16:22 AM
What is a boat renaming ceremony?  Right now she is Ms. Annonymous. 
Title: De-Naming and Re-naming ceremonies!
Post by: MarkS on March 21, 2012, 08:33:26 AM
Re- Naming Ceremony and some fun at the lake. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eikxPJDB0Hw#ws)
 ;D
Title: Re: WHAT TO DO??
Post by: Bayflite73 on March 21, 2012, 09:06:58 AM
Barb,

Here's a great link with the full ceremony!

http://boatsafe.com/nauticalknowhow/rename.htm (http://boatsafe.com/nauticalknowhow/rename.htm)
Title: Re: WHAT TO DO??
Post by: Hyperacme on March 21, 2012, 03:32:49 PM
Barb
Don't take a chance ...
Please do it, just to make us happy.
Title: Re: WHAT TO DO??
Post by: Bayflite73 on March 21, 2012, 03:58:41 PM
And record it so we can all watch! ;D
Title: Re: WHAT TO DO??
Post by: V153 on March 21, 2012, 04:18:57 PM
And record it so we can all watch! ;D
Ya mebbe stream it live so's we can all join in ...?
Title: Re: WHAT TO DO??
Post by: WetRaider on March 21, 2012, 08:23:26 PM
My old glass supplier in Texas did not do this for his boat ... just pulled the decals and put his own on.  His boat was plaqued with bad luck ... so bad that when the marina was pulling it from the slip after his bilge pump failed and he was taking on water, the straps broke on the trailer when the driver was making a right turn and dumped the boat clear off the trailer ... left it lying in the street twisted up on its side ...

He did the renaming ceremony with his new boat.

Title: Re: WHAT TO DO??
Post by: V153 on March 21, 2012, 08:47:53 PM
My old glass supplier in Texas did not do this for his boat ... just pulled the decals and put his own on.  His boat was plaqued with bad luck ... so bad that when the marina was pulling it from the slip after his bilge pump failed and he was taking on water, the straps broke on the trailer when the driver was making a right turn and dumped the boat clear off the trailer ... left it lying in the street twisted up on its side ...
Aha! See what happens when you fail to appease the gods? I reckon it might sound ridiculous to some but the boat naming, denaming, renaming ceremony is held in high regard 'round these parts.
Title: Re: WHAT TO DO??
Post by: 75starflight on March 21, 2012, 09:27:55 PM
OK, so what if the boat has never been named? As in my starflite.
Title: Re: WHAT TO DO??
Post by: Burnin Daylight on March 21, 2012, 09:37:20 PM
Doug, this "renaming ceremony" and the bad luck to follow wouldnt have anything to do with hitting that channel marker with the V153 would it?
Title: Re: WHAT TO DO??
Post by: V153 on March 21, 2012, 10:18:36 PM
Doug, this "renaming ceremony" and the bad luck to follow wouldnt have anything to do with hitting that channel marker with the V153 would it?
Not at all Barb. 'Least I don't think so. To the best of my knowledge the V153 never had a name. Though I fancied "Solitaire". Cuz that's the way I usually roll.

In retrospect perhaps a denaming ceremony should have been performed before her maiden voyage?

All kidding aside there are certain things you don't mess with. And if'n yer a boater you don't mess with the gods of the sea.
Title: Re: WHAT TO DO??
Post by: OleRed on March 21, 2012, 10:41:20 PM
My a friend in Galvaston, Tx. a certified Captian, took the name off a boat he wanted to change, he recovered most of the residue from the name on the boat in a plastic jug he cut in half with a box knife,  he bought a half gallon of Crown Royal, that evening we met at the boat, he mixed us up a couple stiff one's, just ice & Crown, he re-hearsed a toast a couple times, refreshed the drinks, made the toast to the boat, dumped the residue in the harbor beside the boat, then poured the rest of the Crown into the water over the residue, I don't think I need to tell you what I thought about wasting the rest that Crown.  I had just bought the boat in the next slip, 38ft sportfisher, the "Sea Cob" one of my favorite boats ever, 24ft outriggers, two fightin chairs, 7 navigational radio's, auto pilot, radar, 10 man life raft that would deploy automatically @ 90 degree list and elt, counter rotating 427 Chevy's, two 400 gallon gas tanks, chilled air cond, all self contained cabin & galley .. Loved It  !

One week later, a hurricane came in, sunk his boat, pulled the line's from mine, put it against the concrete sea wall, sawed about 4" off the gunwale, that looked kinda Odd,  got a call from the harbor master, he was wanting to blow a hole in it, sink it, to keep it from causing more damage in the harbor, cost me $380 for them to lift it out of the water with the travel lift to dry dock, cost me $7000 in all.  The name Calvin had chosen for his boat was the "Gayle Force" his girlfriend's name was Gayle,  she didn't stay around long either.  

I think re-naming a boat deserves a ceremony, I did that when I changed the name on my scimitar from "Once Again" to "Reds Gold" when I backed it in the water, I poured a can of Bud Lite over the bow, wiped it off quick with a wet towel, said Out with the old and In with the new, fired that sucker up and went for a ride, worked for me.

Pic of the "Sea Cob"  the name actually means a bird, not a fish


(http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p286/Hyperacme/CGOAmn/SeaCob.png)
Title: Re: WHAT TO DO??
Post by: Jerry on March 22, 2012, 02:49:50 AM
I think you can "filter" that Crown Royal through the kidneys and be OK.
Title: Re: WHAT TO DO??
Post by: DanR on March 22, 2012, 08:23:39 AM
You always make me laugh Jerry!
Title: Re: WHAT TO DO??
Post by: bambam on March 22, 2012, 10:13:12 AM
So what is the protocol if the boat wasn't previously named and you want to name it?  to the best of my knowledge my 184 wasn't named however my wife had decided that we should name it. 
Title: Re: WHAT TO DO??
Post by: Gotesh on March 22, 2012, 12:55:20 PM
Renaming is actually two ceremonies.  De-naming, and then naming.  If giving it a name for the first  time, just do the naming.
Title: Re: WHAT TO DO??
Post by: Burnin Daylight on March 22, 2012, 02:39:46 PM
This is what the state of Oklahoma says about the registration numbers and displaying them.

The issued registration number and valid Oklahoma decal must be displayed in the following manner:
The number must be attached as high on the hull as possible.
The numbers must be of contrasting colors with the background where it is attached.
The number characters placed so they can be read from left to right on both sides
The registration number must be in at least three-inch-high BLOCK letters and numbers and ½ inch stroke width.
Script or other lettering types that are hard to read from a distance are not allowed.
The numbers and letters must be kept readable at all times.
The valid registration card must be carried onboard the boat whenever the boat is being operated. The registration certificate is also required to be available for inspection at all times. This includes while in transit, while at a repair facility or in storage.
The letters and numbers must be separated by a space or hyphen. For example: "OK 4718 AB" or "OK-4718-AB".
No other numbers or letters of any type may be displayed on either side of the bow.
The valid registration decal must be affixed to both sides of the bow, in the area just behind and in-line, with the boat registration number.


These are block and maybe not hard to read from a distance.  We'll see if I get kicked off the lake with them.  I usually boat on Lake of the Arbuckles which is a federal lake.  It is right outside of the Chickasaw national recreation area so therefore the lake rangers are actually federal rangers.  If you are hauled in for alcohol related offenses you are taken to federal jail, and must appear in federal court.  The ranger station is right at the launch so I'll buy a set of plain ole numbers and keep handy in the boat.  They might actually look different when they show up in the mail vs online.


(http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p286/Hyperacme/CGOAmn/REGNO.jpg)



Title: Re: WHAT TO DO??
Post by: V153 on March 22, 2012, 06:20:29 PM
Renaming is actually two ceremonies.  De-naming, and then naming.  If giving it a name for the first  time, just do the naming.
However if unsure of whether or not the boat had a previous name? I'd play it safe and perform both ceremonies.

Yo Red I like the abbreviated version but think I'm gonna go formal ...
Title: Re: WHAT TO DO??
Post by: WetRaider on March 23, 2012, 04:39:57 PM
Barb - You might be ok.
If there's any problem, take the same digital graphic and have your sticker-maker do a contrasting block letter/number that will fit inside what you have .. so you'll have the orange outline around the red, with maybe a orate or black character on the inside - the outlines and flames can be orange/red, with the characters in block.
It should be really easy to apply - if he uses the original digital graphic, they'd be spaced appropriately already, just press and go.


oh ... and did he reverse your flames for the port side, so that you have them swept back/aft from either side of the boat?  If not, your port side will have flames blowing towards the bow  ... makin' it look like you're going backwards, really fast.  :-)
Title: Re: WHAT TO DO??
Post by: Burnin Daylight on March 25, 2012, 05:28:15 PM
I got to work on the CV23 yesterday most of the day.  
Finished the wet sanding, buffing and waxing, ordered new chrome bilge vent covers and got those installed.  Replaced the wood that I refinished, and used the 303 on the upholstery.  Just need to get it back to OKC for OleRed to help me make sure she is dependable mechanically and we will be ready for launch.  Oh and down to Frankie for the new tinted windshield when she comes to OKC.  Ive never had this boat in the water because I barely made it back from Arizona with her before I had my shoulder replaced.  I would probably be a little farther along, but I still have to be careful of the metal rod from my shoulder to elbow until the bone grafts get stronger.  The graphics have not shown up yet, so no renaming ceremony for a few more weeks now.
Title: Re: WHAT TO DO??
Post by: Hyperacme on March 25, 2012, 05:31:54 PM
She looks GREAT Barb !
Title: Re: WHAT TO DO??
Post by: 75starflight on March 25, 2012, 06:03:02 PM
WOW! that looks great. Is it making the trip to Iowa?
Title: Re: WHAT TO DO??
Post by: carlsoncvx18 on March 25, 2012, 06:08:37 PM
Barb

Your doing a fantastic job

Hope the shoulder hold out to the end
Title: Re: WHAT TO DO??
Post by: Burnin Daylight on March 25, 2012, 06:21:26 PM
Ive been planning on bringing the CV23 to Iowa.  Wish I could bring them both, going to hopefully add another MPH to Burnin Daylight also here in a few weeks.  Don't ask I'm not talking.  Maybe I should add a few MPHs to the CV23?  Hmmmmm.........
Title: Re: WHAT TO DO??
Post by: Hyperacme on March 25, 2012, 06:49:53 PM
How fast is it ?  (CV23)
Title: Re: WHAT TO DO??
Post by: Burnin Daylight on March 25, 2012, 07:44:27 PM
Greg, it hasn't been launched since I've owned it.  I'm thinking 52.428..
Title: Re: WHAT TO DO??
Post by: Hyperacme on March 25, 2012, 07:50:43 PM
52.428 mph ...

Just a guess ?
...LOL
Title: Re: WHAT TO DO??
Post by: Jerry on March 25, 2012, 08:36:11 PM
If that's your height  and weight, yer a round ball.
Title: Re: WHAT TO DO??
Post by: Bayflite73 on March 25, 2012, 08:50:32 PM
Holy cats Barb, that's a great looking boat!
Title: Re: WHAT TO DO??
Post by: V153 on March 25, 2012, 09:16:45 PM
Outstanding Barb!! Looks awesome! Carry on ...
Title: Re: WHAT TO DO??
Post by: dorelse on March 25, 2012, 09:19:58 PM
Nice Barb!!!
Title: Re: WHAT TO DO??
Post by: Burnin Daylight on March 26, 2012, 11:33:07 AM
Thanks for the compliments guys.  Next weekend I will start on the electronics.  Adding a second battery, the stereo and a little more lighting. 
Title: Re: WHAT TO DO??
Post by: OleRed on March 26, 2012, 01:41:30 PM
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Maybe I should add a few MPHs to the CV23?  Hmmmmm.........

as good as "Hot Knots" is looking, you Know it's gotta perform,  Oh !  I just remembered, I got another one of them ole vortec's sittin in the garage, just waiting to be assembled, all fresh and pretty, right from the machine shop.

WHAT TO DO  ?
Title: Re: WHAT TO DO??
Post by: Rosscoe on March 26, 2012, 08:34:44 PM
The 23 looks great Barb. You do more boat work with a healing shoulder then I do with 2 good ones.
Title: Re: WHAT TO DO??
Post by: Burnin Daylight on April 02, 2012, 01:40:59 PM
Didn't get much accomplished this weekend.  Got the registration number decals applied and installed the stereo head.  I guess like Dan says I am going really fast backwards on the one side.  LOL.  Frankie called to tell me that the windshield is finished.  I will drag it downtown to Eaton Quade and get that installed next week. 
Title: Re: WHAT TO DO??
Post by: WetRaider on April 03, 2012, 08:29:53 AM
Going backwards or not, that still looks really cool on the side of your boat.  Nice job.
Title: Re: WHAT TO DO??
Post by: Burnin Daylight on April 09, 2012, 12:18:02 PM
Well, I pulled Hot Knots back from the lake yesterday in a pouring rain.  Local rainfall at lake of the Arbuckles was 4".  I got soaked hooking on to her even with her under the carport.  I'm leaving out for downtown OKC here in about 10 minutes, and Frankie is going to install the new windshield and place the rest of the graphics on her.  I'll take pics and post them when I get back to Edmond with her.
Title: Re: WHAT TO DO??
Post by: Bayflite73 on April 09, 2012, 01:19:10 PM
Well at least any rain for you guys is a good thing right?
Title: Re: WHAT TO DO??
Post by: Burnin Daylight on April 09, 2012, 05:04:57 PM
Yes Josh rain is a good thing for us and Texas, but with that much we can get flash flooding in our creeks and low spots.  I got the new windshield in today and the rest of the graphics put on.  I really wanted a new bow hatch cover, but Frankie wants $300 to make a mold for it and $175 for the replica.  I would be willing to pay the price for the replica but I don't really care to be the one to pay the bill for the mold for myself and everyone else.  The name graphic is on her, and I know I'm supposed to have a renaming ceremony.  I thought maybe we could have a renaming party for her up in Iowa in June while she is in the lake surrounded by all her Glastron brothers and sisters....Red Solo Cup... Redneck Yacht Club.....Anyway here are the pics of her with her new adornments.

Title: Re: WHAT TO DO??
Post by: 75starflight on April 09, 2012, 06:37:12 PM
Barb, she looks sweet! I think doing the renaming in Iowa sounds like a great idea.
Title: Re: WHAT TO DO??
Post by: Jerry on April 09, 2012, 09:00:05 PM
Maybe we could do Okie-Dokie at the same time (if I get it done in time) Looks really nice Barb.
Title: Re: WHAT TO DO??
Post by: OleRed on April 09, 2012, 09:09:00 PM
That baby is lookin Good Barb, but I'm kinda suprize at the cost Frankie gave you for making a mold for that hatch, he know's I can make one for a Lot less than that, maybe that was his thinking ?
The hatch has got to be vacumn formed, needs a solid mold, we can make a mold off your's if we get a bag of hydrostone from Dolese, a 100 pound bag cost about $40 thats the only size bag they sell, amazing stuff, sets up hard as a rock in about 5 minutes, and nothing sticks to it.
Title: Re: WHAT TO DO??
Post by: WetRaider on April 09, 2012, 09:18:34 PM
Looking great!

I had thought about a group re-naming out here at Rathbun ...

Wet Raider wasn't named when she came home with me.  I haven't paid for my name graphics yet ... maybe I should plan on getting them done before June and we can all do it at the same time.  We'd need someone to officiate.  We can ask Doran to take video if he'll keep himself dry during the ceremony (I wasn't there, but I've heard all about it).

Title: Re: WHAT TO DO??
Post by: dorelse on April 09, 2012, 09:31:56 PM
Luckily the video camera is water proof!
Title: Re: WHAT TO DO??
Post by: 75starflight on April 09, 2012, 09:39:58 PM
Well, if this group naming is going to happen count the starflite in. The wife and I have been thinking about giving her a name.
Title: Re: WHAT TO DO??
Post by: V153 on April 09, 2012, 10:03:53 PM
Not to sound prudent, but I ain't so sure a 'multiple' renaming ceremony is in the interest of common good. Personally I think it's a bad idea, but whudda I know. Seems to me it would only serve to confuse and anger the gods. I will consult with the elders for a ruling ...
Title: Re: WHAT TO DO??
Post by: Hotwired on April 09, 2012, 10:33:07 PM
Hot Knots looks great Barb!  I can hardly wait to see her!
Title: Re: WHAT TO DO??
Post by: Jerry on April 09, 2012, 11:02:28 PM
Not to sound prudent, but I ain't so sure a 'multiple' renaming ceremony is in the interest of common good. Personally I think it's a bad idea, but whudda I know. Seems to me it would only serve to confuse and anger the gods. I will consult with the elders for a ruling ...
(all the "Elders" are on Snake Island, and drink a lot)
Title: Re: WHAT TO DO??
Post by: MarkS on April 10, 2012, 08:04:01 AM
Hot Knots is looking fantastic Barb, nice work!
Title: Re: WHAT TO DO??
Post by: Burnin Daylight on April 10, 2012, 08:12:29 AM
Red, lets make a mold.  Frankie was going to remove the hatch and glue the small crack but it needed to be off for a couple of days and we have rain forcast for next week.  Let me know when you're ready to check out the mechanics.

Jerry, would that be the snake gods?  Get busy with the 16, I would love to see it.

Doug, quit being a pooter head.

Dan, and anyone else interested in naming and renaming.  I can read the and officiate the ceremony, but you will need to bring the christening beverage of your choice.  

Chris, (Hotwired) are you going to be able to make the Iowa meet?  You know you don't have to have a boat.  Hot Knots would be honored for you to ride with us.  Chris found the CV23 for me but was on a hunting trip when I finalized the deal, and his cousin checked it out and sent me pictures before I went to Phoenix to get her.

Everyone else thanks for the encouragement.

  
Title: Re: WHAT TO DO??
Post by: dorelse on April 10, 2012, 10:17:46 AM
I'm happy to pick you up at the airport Chris.  Or...better yet...Lawson can do it for the IA meet. :)
Title: Re: WHAT TO DO??
Post by: OleRed on April 10, 2012, 10:42:59 AM
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Let me know when you're ready to check out the mechanics.

Barb, as soon as I get this Celebrity out of the way we can get a mold made, and back to our boats, I'm hoping to get it fired up today, spent yesterday trying to figure out how to wire it up, I've never seen so many wires on a motor ... Grrrr.
Title: Re: WHAT TO DO??
Post by: Carlson_from_Germany on April 10, 2012, 01:31:54 PM
I'm hoping to get it fired up today, spent yesterday trying to figure out how to wire it up, I've never seen so many wires on a motor ... Grrrr.

OleRed, you haven't seen mine. Ford 460 fuel injected, probably a car engine that was transformed to a marine engine... Tons of control units, cables and most of them change their colors from yellow on one end and purple on the other end, in between we find green and white..

Now tell me something about cables :D
Title: Re: WHAT TO DO??
Post by: V153 on April 10, 2012, 05:35:32 PM
Doug, quit being a pooter head
Heh heh heh. Hey what's a pooter? In redneck terms it's a pus, uh, er has to do with the female genetalia. If you're referring to the "Pooter Tooter", the handheld imitation *Censored* producing device? Then I take it as a compliment. But I don't need no dang handheld device. Do it the old fashioned way ...

Boat looks great Barb! Carry on.
Title: Re: WHAT TO DO??
Post by: OleRed on April 10, 2012, 05:47:26 PM
Doug ... you got a LOT to learn ... as with me,   don't give up, keep reading, I'll bet you come to the part that  say's Hush   !
Title: Re: WHAT TO DO??
Post by: Hotwired on April 10, 2012, 10:25:06 PM
I plan on being a bit of a vagabond this summer.   ;D  I will try to make Iowa.  Would sure love too.  Will see what happens.
Title: Re: WHAT TO DO??
Post by: V153 on April 10, 2012, 10:37:28 PM
"Farting" is censored?! Ya, reckon I got a lot to learn. Hush about what Red?
Title: Re: WHAT TO DO??
Post by: dorelse on April 10, 2012, 11:18:56 PM
"Farting" is censored?!

The Censored words list hasn't been touched in years as far as I'm aware Doug...so yea, looks like it is...unless you put quotes around...apparently.
Title: Re: WHAT TO DO??
Post by: OleRed on April 10, 2012, 11:39:44 PM
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Hush about what Red?

LOL ...  I mean, take it easy on her Doug,  the three most important things I've learned about women, I'm not going to win any dispute, I'm not going to get in the last word, and I'm better off just listening.
Title: Re: WHAT TO DO??
Post by: OleRed on April 10, 2012, 11:49:36 PM
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Ford 460 fuel injected, probably a car engine that was transformed to a marine engine
This Celebrity I'm working on was a winter project that me and my brother-in-law aquired as a winter project, 1997 model 350 mag that has been "mangled" with automotive carb and intake, dist, and all the original electronic's were not present, I have since installed all the right stuff, and a wiring harness that is "suposed" to be compatible, I'm just Not familiar with all this later model stuff, two of everything, but different functions, and Yes, I've been through an EFI education on the stroker ... I sold it and put on a carb.
Title: Re: WHAT TO DO??
Post by: Carlson_from_Germany on April 11, 2012, 01:34:29 AM
...and Yes, I've been through an EFI education on the stroker ... I sold it and put on a carb.

I was thinking about doing the same but I had it running once, so in case I can fire it up and have it run properly again, I'm good with it.
Title: Does history repeat itself??
Post by: Burnin Daylight on April 11, 2012, 05:00:51 PM
 Last year the guys up in Minnesota were so very kind to creat this trophy for the hard luck award.  All I had to do to earn it was break a prop blade and grind the gears up in a drive.  It was actually quite an easy task.  Red was with me on both occasions.  Thanks guys.
Title: History repeats itself.....
Post by: Burnin Daylight on April 12, 2012, 06:06:56 PM
Well.....  Red pulled the drive today because we knew she needed a new gimbal bearing and an impellar.  He checked the fluid and it was full......of water.  Rusty gears and bearings burned up and twisted seals etc.....   We got a plan B though.
Title: Re: WHAT TO DO??
Post by: Hotwired on April 12, 2012, 07:20:02 PM
I wonder if the club could get a truckload discount on drives???  Seems there is a lot of that going around.  Jeff last year at the MN meet.  Lawson locked up the day he got back from the meet.  Burning Daylights eats drives like my brother on the 4th of July (one is never enough)!!!  :o

What is Plan B?  Lawson is talking about a SEI drive.  I have been looking at a used drive down here in AZ for him but he is liking the warranty offered by SEI.
Title: Re: WHAT TO DO??
Post by: Rich_V174SS on April 12, 2012, 08:48:13 PM
It seems I've been doing a bunch of drive shaft seals lately too. I just resealed a drive for one of my customers yesterday. The guy's boat is a late 80's 19 foot cuddy runabout with a 3.0 liter Mercruiser, hadn't been maintained for some time. I ended up doing almost an overhaul on the drive system - rebuild carb, fuel pump, shift cable, gimbal bearing, drive shaft bellows, alternator belt, a bunch of rewiring, it was a mess. Well the drive bellows had holes in it and the upper shaft yoke seal was leaking bady, there was oil in the bellows and water in the drive oil. I replaced the seal and pressure checked the drive, the other seals seemed to be ok. The shift cable was rotted thru at the bell housing so when I was removing it it fell apart.
Title: Re: WHAT TO DO??
Post by: 76bayflite on April 13, 2012, 01:31:30 AM
All of this makes me want to stick with outboards.
Title: Re: WHAT TO DO??
Post by: Burnin Daylight on April 13, 2012, 08:18:35 AM
Plan B....OleRed is pretty resourceful when it comes to finding parts and getting them priced reasonably.  He is going to install the gimbal bearing this morning and then I am going to pull her over to Shawnee Oklahoma about a 45 minute drive east to a used dealer called Boaties.  Boaties is the shop that did the clear coat on Burnin Daylight, so the owner Donnie is pretty familiar with me and has known Red for a long time.  Anyway he has made me a deal on another used drive that he will warranty, at a price that I can afford and will take mine in on trade for parts.  Once I get a dependable drive, keep it serviced and don't put too much horsepower in front of it then it should last a good long time on that boat.   
Title: Re: WHAT TO DO??
Post by: Hotwired on April 13, 2012, 09:36:18 AM
Plan B.... Once I get a dependable drive, keep it serviced and don't put too much horsepower in front of it then it should last a good long time on that boat.   

Good Luck with that!! ... LOL! If you and red make them hatch covers up. better make a few extra.  You will pay for your efforts over and over again.