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Re: '89 Glastron Carlson 23CSS Project and Repair
« Reply #40 on: March 08, 2018, 04:35:55 PM »
I dunno bout that Mike. And not sure it matters. Y'know there is this thing called the internet ...  Think they'll ship just about anywhere.
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Re: '89 Glastron Carlson 23CSS Project and Repair
« Reply #41 on: March 09, 2018, 07:33:17 AM »
I came awful close this time on the Timi on going composite,  but the shipping cost killed the idea.  I suppose the UPS or FedEx guy would have trouble wrestling 4x8 sheets of material.  Even pre cut for the floor at 48"x50" was considered oversized.  I think the shipping quote that route was nearly $100.00.   I can use money like that elsewhere.
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Re: '89 Glastron Carlson 23CSS Project and Repair
« Reply #42 on: March 09, 2018, 09:45:58 AM »
I came awful close this time on the Timi on going composite,  but the shipping cost killed the idea.  I suppose the UPS or FedEx guy would have trouble wrestling 4x8 sheets of material.  Even pre cut for the floor at 48"x50" was considered oversized.  I think the shipping quote that route was nearly $100.00.   I can use money like that elsewhere.

Yep.  And 5 Gal buckets that weigh 30lbs aren't cheap to ship either.
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Re: '89 Glastron Carlson 23CSS Project and Repair
« Reply #43 on: March 09, 2018, 06:16:45 PM »
Yikes! Really surprising that you don't have any distributors in the area.
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Re: '89 Glastron Carlson 23CSS Project and Repair
« Reply #44 on: March 09, 2018, 09:02:22 PM »
Ohmygawd Nebraska isn't what you would call a Mecca for boats, which is why certain materials just aren't found here.  Minnesota has 10,000 lakes, uh, we have 5.  Now if ya want a good steak.....................
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Re: '89 Glastron Carlson 23CSS Project and Repair
« Reply #45 on: March 11, 2018, 09:20:40 AM »
^^ I agree with the good steak

Update: had a bit of time yesterday to work on the boat, got the frame and fibreglass out of the bow area, so now it’s grinding time! Yay! Not..

Wifey and dog came along to help too so they got the bow rails and windshield and other accessories off.

The wife likes it better with the bow rails off, and I don’t hate it.. hmm but does that not make it a Glastron anymore? Haha




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Re: '89 Glastron Carlson 23CSS Project and Repair
« Reply #46 on: March 11, 2018, 11:09:07 AM »
I'm not a 23 owner, but there are plenty of them on this forum that may have some insight.  Just by observation, I think the front rails help with beaching and getting on/off the front.  In the end, it's your boat, do what ya like.  I wouldn't toss the rails, but if you clean up the holes, you could always add them back in if you change your mind. 
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Re: '89 Glastron Carlson 23CSS Project and Repair
« Reply #47 on: March 11, 2018, 11:32:15 AM »
Your boat, but I like the bow rails they are sometimes a pita to go under on a beach. But I will deal with that maybe a diet or something would help.  But keep the bow rails and windshield plenty of them running around missing the windshield. 
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Re: '89 Glastron Carlson 23CSS Project and Repair
« Reply #48 on: March 11, 2018, 11:41:40 AM »
Yea I would keep them and just cap the holes, we’ll have to try it both ways, I’m sure it would help with docking but would be a pita when beaching. Definitely a part of the look all the 23’s have though!
I’m just looking forward to getting the shine back on the deck and going out on the water!


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Re: '89 Glastron Carlson 23CSS Project and Repair
« Reply #49 on: March 11, 2018, 12:10:01 PM »
Actually...11842 lakes       :o ;)       And yes keep the rails and windshield, if you don’t like the back facing one you can always try the forwards facing one.
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Re: '89 Glastron Carlson 23CSS Project and Repair
« Reply #50 on: March 12, 2018, 09:25:57 AM »
I like the rails as well. You can legally ride on the bow with the rails but it does make it a bit awkward when getting out of the boat but I usually get out on the back or side.
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Re: '89 Glastron Carlson 23CSS Project and Repair
« Reply #51 on: March 12, 2018, 11:23:24 AM »
Any of the 23 folks considered modifying the rails, say by making them shorter or adding a swing section in similiar fashion to a vehicle roll bar to allow access? 
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Re: '89 Glastron Carlson 23CSS Project and Repair
« Reply #52 on: March 12, 2018, 11:53:33 AM »
Any of the 23 folks considered modifying the rails, say by making them shorter or adding a swing section in similiar fashion to a vehicle roll bar to allow access?

That is kind of a neat idea to add a swing section, could probably use something like a ladder hinge to fold it out of the way.


Another question for you 350 Magnum owners, the 23CSS has a 50 gallon fuel tank, does anyone wish that their tank was bigger, would it suck to be any smaller? Could anyone give me an idea of how long a tank of fuel would last, at cruising speed? I'm not even sure what a good cruising speed is for that boat, 25mph?

Thanks!
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Re: '89 Glastron Carlson 23CSS Project and Repair
« Reply #53 on: March 12, 2018, 01:11:11 PM »
Quick and painless worst case fuel usage, divide the HP by 10 to get rough GPH use at full power.   So figure 300 hp is going to use about 30 GPH at WOT.   Getting into the more intensive math yields a value closer to 25 gph for that engine at WOT.   Obviously cruising around at 3500 rpms will increase your mileage.    IMHO, keep as large a tank as you can fit, if just going out cruising for a couple hours, you could always just fill it halfway.  If using the original aluminum tank, take some time to insure it is leak free before going back in.  I pressurized mine to 5lbs, then soaped all the joints and areas that had some corrosion, found three pinholes and got them corrected.
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Re: '89 Glastron Carlson 23CSS Project and Repair
« Reply #54 on: March 12, 2018, 05:38:41 PM »
Keep the gas tank you have it is plenty of gas.

Cruising speed 30mph is right around 3000 rpm fuel will last along time. Never have ran it for a long period of time at that setting, usually slowing down for other boats  wakes and no wake zones and beaching for several hrs.

I have never looked into the rpm and speed of just running on the primaries.

But if you run a jet and a bbf the tank could be 100gallons and probably still not enough.
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Re: '89 Glastron Carlson 23CSS Project and Repair
« Reply #55 on: March 12, 2018, 06:29:32 PM »
Haha you basically need a long hose straight to the marina for those big blocks!

Since I’m changing the layout of the stringers the old tank won’t fit and it is 29 year old plastic.

Just wondering if I should go bigger or stay the same ($$ vs. $$$$) haha
They do always say bigger is better don’t they


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Re: '89 Glastron Carlson 23CSS Project and Repair
« Reply #56 on: March 12, 2018, 06:35:44 PM »
Plastic hmmm I thought they were mostly all aluminum all three of mine are.
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Re: '89 Glastron Carlson 23CSS Project and Repair
« Reply #57 on: March 12, 2018, 10:17:35 PM »
I had to go back and look, yep, that's a plastic tank.  Last dozen or so boats I've worked on have had aluminum tanks, but all of those we older.  Glastron must have made the switch sometime in the later 80's?  IMHO, a poly tank should last nearly forever, though maybe fuel over time could make the plastic brittle?  Doesn't seem to happen on vehicle tanks.
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Re: '89 Glastron Carlson 23CSS Project and Repair
« Reply #58 on: March 13, 2018, 06:48:35 AM »
Yea I think the plastic is ‘technically’ suppose to last forever. They say over time the plastic can emit the smell of gas. I’d also be concerned of the newer ethanol fuels in the older plastic tanks. The new tanks are all rated for that stuff but not sure on the old ones.

Might have to put an aluminum one in it if I can’t find a plastic tank.


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Re: '89 Glastron Carlson 23CSS Project and Repair
« Reply #59 on: March 13, 2018, 07:50:00 AM »
      There is supposed to be no ethanol in marine fuel, though that is not to say some didn't get into your tank at some time.  Several stations up near Red Wing sell non alcohol fuel for boats at the drive up pumps, Marinas, in my experience, only sell non alcohol fuel on the water.   Around home, I just fill up premium at the gas station and run a new fuel/water filter separator each year.   For your case, if given the choice, I'd go with a new poly tank over Aluminum.   
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2002 Bennington 2275CC 90 Mercury
1985 Intimidator project
1989 Lowe 200 Redneck fishin Toon
2001 Godfrey Sweetwater pontoon 115 Rude