Minnesota Classic Glastron Forum
General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: GCarlover on December 14, 2012, 07:12:28 PM
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Bought new 1980. Persian Orange with Buff. Found a 1970 115 Merc. Clyinders looked good. Bought for $700.
Replaced it with a 87 Johnson 140 hp. Private lake in Nebraska. Re-made the trailer with a dropped axle and
2 x 3" frame I fabricated. Does anyone have this boat in this color or similar?
Already shown in "Who's boat is this?" (Kip? and Eric Michael from OR)
There was one at the 2012 Classic Glastron Rally CGOAMN front page of this website (slide show); check it out.
(license MN 1506 EF) It looks like a 78 MERC 115
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Welcome aboard ! Nice looking CVX bet it really moves right along with that 140 on it. Can we see more pics please. :)
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GCarlover,
Nice find! Where are you at in Nebraska?
Brandon
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That is a really nice boat. Looks like you have taken good care of it.
Barb
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That's skiing in style! Any pics of the boat in action with a skier cutting a rooster tail behind it? ;D I can just see that.
Nice work and what fun owning since new, welcome.
Mark
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Here is another one owner Carlson in Nebraska, use to be on a private lake in Fremont. When it was new, it had a Johnson 140 on it now it has a 97 Johnson 115...
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I think I know the owner of this boat from Cuming county. I talked to him at the Fremont State Lakes when he had a 86 120 on it. Don't know where it went from there. Correction; his brother had the 120 on a 16 ft Glastron. This boat had a n 84 cross-flow 140.
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GCarlover, have you tried any props beside the 23" pitch rehubbed for a Johnson? What is the prop make and model that is pictured? Seems like an ideal prop for you would be a Raker 22". With a 140 HP Johnson, you should go about 57-58 MPH turning about 5,700 to 5,800 RPM's.
Yes, post some more pictures of your beautiful boat.
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Yes please post more pictures.
Also, 84carlson and I are planing on getting together at branched oak lake by Lincoln this spring for some prop testing. We would be happy to have another GC owner along. Especially one who has alot of prop knowledge. ;D
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That's a fine looking boat ya go there! Clearly you are someone of style and impeccable taste! ;D
In the Glastron trivia department, I notice a few styling differences between your 1980 and my 1983. On the scallop mine has an extra stripe. Whereas yours has pinstripes along the upper body lines.
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Your trailer looks very similar to mine, but is subtly different. Is it an original Glastron trailer, or is it something else?
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eric got any more pictures of your boat on and off the trailer.would like to see it with that 175 on the back.thanks
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Re-made the trailer with a dropped axle and 2 x 3" frame I fabricated. I tried to copy the Carlson trailer. Yours should be Aluminum. I got an axle from a dealer auction for $50 but it was bent; that's why they had it. Re-cut in and squared it. Put Mustang hubs on and 14" tires. New springs and fenders. Sold the old axle, springs and 12" wheels. It goes straight down the road. My deck is all metalflake. I thought 83s like 84s were double line metalflake on the side. I had a neighbor that said his was an 83. Two tone blue but opaque blue. I bought my Raker 20" from him. His 140 ran better with the 19 SST. He thought he got 57 @ 7200 but his Speedo was off 3 and his tach was on the wrong pin. Be careful with vinyl contacting the clear. It traps moisture. Just contact with my vinyl covered bumpers on my boat lift are leaving lines on it. I can't seem to sand it out. Sounds like your uncle put a mark on us all. Keep up the Carlson tradition. The hole in his boat can be fixed with a good repairman. I had a neighbor that had the metallic repaired. There's am IO Carlson on one of these sites that has a full metallic deck in Persian Orange. Don't know the year. See if you can find it' Might be at the MN get-together. I just put a post on 84 Carlson(Not sure of title) from NE. Check my posts. I like the way these sites work. I've got a 58 Pipestone with a 55 Evinrude 15. Talk about Classic! Don't think we need a picture.
Can someone tell me how to do attachments full size? It only shows thumbnails. And requires below 1000 kbites.
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Can someone tell me how to do attachments full size? It only shows thumbnails. And requires below 1000 kbites.
Get a Photo bucket account. You can upload you pictures there and then paste the image link into you post and it will adjust them it self.
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GCarlover, have you tried any props beside the 23" pitch rehubbed for a Johnson? What is the prop make and model that is pictured? Seems like an ideal prop for you would be a Raker 22". With a 140 HP Johnson, you should go about 57-58 MPH turning about 5,700 to 5,800 RPM's.
Yes, post some more pictures of your beautiful boat.
More pics next year, David. I had a 22 Raker on it; bouncing 55 with 2 persons aboard. We did a lot of prop testing a few years back including a Michigan 2 blade bronze. Don't remember the pitch or how it did. This was before I set back the mount 1". The Michigan 21 on it same as the one Belwood Laker sold on this site. I would like to hear from him before he goes into hibernation up in Canada. I will run again next to see if the Chine walk is less because of diameter. It is close to the Raker 20. And as I said earlier a 13 7/8 x 15" OMC SS re-pitched to about 18 for skiing. My boat weight is 700, yours 750 but when the motor was off I tried to weigh it using 3 bath scales and then the trailer. It seemed to net out about 900 with battey and some gas. I always thought Glastron stretched their specs. If you get a chance to weigh with trailer and the net trailer let us know. I posted the Craigslist Grand Rapids on the Michigan Classic Glastron site yesterday. It's a little too far for you MN folks but would be easy to trailer it back. I think all it needs is some interior work. Beats having to split the boat and re-build everything. I think you well know Volvo S80 from Canada. He probably will get a more steady speed on better water and no wind resistance. I have a snapshot of a new boat like yours they put my 85 120 Looper on. I may post it sometime. My Neighbor ordered it but wouldn't take it because it was not red,white and blue. I heard whoever got it didn't take good care of it. I think they said it tested out at 52 wot
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My boat was originally in Washington State. When I brought it to Oregon the Department of Motor Vehicles asked how much it weighed. So I went and put it on the state run scale which was just down the road.
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I went back to the DMV with these pictures. Any trailer in Oregon which is fully loaded and weighs less than 1800lbs does not need a plate or tags. I promptly went home and removed the WA plate. ;D
-Eric
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She's a beauty Eric. Haven't seen too many pics of your rig.
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Eric ...
Did you have a full tank of fuel when you weighed it ?
Is your trailer aluminum ?
A 175 HP Johnsons is about 370 lbs with T&T ....
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Eric ...
Did you have a full tank of fuel when you weighed it ?
Is your trailer aluminum ?
A 175 HP Johnsons is about 370 lbs with T&T ....
Just between us friends on this forum....let's not get in to the particulars if you get my drift. ;) I got pictures which were good enough for the DMV. The trailer holds one boat, and is fully loaded with that boat in place. The fine print doesn't say the boat needs to be fully loaded. I wouldn't put a lot of real-world faith in that number if are trying to determine how much weight you are towing/lifting/etc.
Yes, it is aluminum trailer. Notice there is no front nose wheel on the trailer. Even with a full tank of gas it is easy to lift on and off the hitch by myself. So there is not that much deception here - it really is that light.
-Eric
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OK ... Just wanted to know how close to real world the number was ...
I'll need a new truck soon and was wondering if I could get by with a four cyl. (1500 lbs towing cap.) or need the V6 (3500 lbs towing cap.).
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Gregg, That may depend on if you plan on towing it up a hill. I never meet someone who said "I have too much horsepower"
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Just thinking about MPG when I'm not towing ...
and the new Escapes are four cyl. turbos ...
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Gregg, That may depend on if you plan on towing it up a hill. I never meet someone who said "I have too much horsepower"
That might be true, but have you ever heard someone say, "Thank God my truck costs $125.00 to fill up...I had too much money in my bank account!"
If so, I have an Avalanche that needs to meet your debit card.
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Gregg. You should be right around 1500lbs.
Engine: 350
Trailer: 500
Hull: 700
1550
You don't tow it real far. I would go with the Turbo 4. You should be plenty fine. You could tow that boat with just about anything.
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You don't tow it real far. I would go with the Turbo 4. You should be plenty fine. You could tow that boat with just about anything.
My thoughts exactly...
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With my motorhome I don't know if I have a boat behind me or not, even the winner. It's a 440 V8 (8 MPG).
With the old Jeep I towed the Classic Barracuda back from California through Donner Pass, in a blizzard. and Okie-Dokie back from OK at 70+ MPH V8 (16 MPG) Both times I was glad I had the HP and 4 wheel Drive.
With the Dakota I drop out of O/D going up the Burnsville hill on 35W 3,3 V6 (24 MPG) I think it would make it through Donner Pas OK, but it would be working hard.
i haven't towed any distance with the Bravada yet, but it's a 4.something V6 and 5 speed 4 wheel drive, and I think it gets around 30 MPG, and will be a great tow vehicle,
The 4 cyl cars I have owned and the 48 Plymouth towed things, but I get passed a lot. I'm sure the turbo makes all the difference and will work fine, just don't go to Sacramento in December.
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CV16 - 650 lbs.
Merc 115 hp ELPTO - 340 lbs.
Karavan trailer - 420 lbs.
Battery - 50 lbs.
Fuel/oil - about 150 lbs.
Total about 1600 lbs. give or take ...
2002 Ford Escape V6 AWD about 18 mpg (city/hiway combind) on a good day !
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i haven't towed any distance with the Bravada yet, but it's a 4.something V6 and 5 speed 4 wheel drive, and I think it gets around 30 MPG, and will be a great tow vehicle,
30MPG!!!!! I wish. Mine has been getting 16-17mpg.
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And my wife's full size yukon with a 6liter and all wheel drive gets 14mpg in the city and 17 on the highway
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The Korean Cadillac (Chev Aveo) get about 30 MPG in city/hiway ...
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2002 Toyota Celica Go Kart gets about 30+ MPH overall, 1.8 liter, 140 HP, 5 speed stick, 2,500 pounds.
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We have a 2005 Trailblazer with the 4.2L Vortex. On the highway driving 70 to 75 we get 19 to 20. Average is about 16. When we tow our boat, minimum 4500lbs, I take it out of OD and average about 13 on the highway, and that's driving 65.
For an in-line 6, I'm pretty impressed when towing our boat to Iowa, Red Wing and around our state.
Terry
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I traded my '98 Dodge Ram 1500, 10-12 MPG for a 2007 Ford Sport Trac w/4.0L 6 Cyl - 14 MPG, then went 'Up' to my current '02 Avalanche, which gets 18 MPG...been very happy with it.
(Couldn't believe the Ford...horrible, owned it a grand total of 3 mos.) The Av never get's over 3k RPM's so I think that helps the MPG quite a bit, we love it.
Did I mention it has a tent too! :D
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My 99 Yukon gets around 20 MPG running down the hwy at 75 MPH with its thirsty 350 sb with out the boat behind it. Now on the other hand with the boat behind it I avg around 15 to 13 MPG.
Doesnt tom stibibe pull his CSS 19 around with a honda element that has a 4 cylinder in it? If he can pull that Gregg you should do fine with the turbo charged 4 in the escape!
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Doesnt tom stibibe pull his CSS 19 around with a honda element that has a 4 cylinder in it? If he can pull that Gregg you should do fine with the turbo charged 4 in the escape!
He does...however, outside the US, the Element (exact same everything) is rated to tow much more than it is in the US. (Thanks to the lawyers!) He also has trailer brakes, which Gregg doesn't...or do you Gregg?
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Doesnt tom stibibe pull his CSS 19 around with a honda element that has a 4 cylinder in it? If he can pull that Gregg you should do fine with the turbo charged 4 in the escape!
He does...however, outside the US, the Element (exact same everything) is rated to tow much more than it is in the US. (Thanks to the lawyers!) He also has trailer brakes, which Gregg doesn't...or do you Gregg?
If he doesn't that can be taken care of. Been doing a little research into it, since we are looking at getting amber a small suv that would be capable of pulling phoenix. Mainly the Honda element!
Sorry, I retract my statement about the DOT.
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If he doesn't that can be taken care of. Been doing a little research into it, since we are looking at getting amber a small suv that would be capable of pulling phoenix. Mainly the Honda element!
Oh yeah, what the DOT don't know won't hurt them. And if you get caught just play stupid. Most likely the officer will not pay attention to the trailer on a non commercial plate vehicle anyways.
The problem with that logic is this Brandon...if you're involved in an accident, and you're towing over your rated limit...and you hurt MY family...do you think I, as the injured party, am going to say..."oh, well if its rated for that in Australia, then that's ok that Marissa will never walk again..." or...do you think any good lawyer would use that as negligence in the impending lawsuit? (Even if it wasn't your fault...)
Sometimes, the best & cheapest defense is playing within the rules...ya know?
I'm sure Tom's rig is safe, in fact, I'm positive it is...but it is outside the rated capacities. If it wasn't I'd have one, cuz I really like them.
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Isn't it a shame that lawyers/courts/lawsuits predict our every move?
But I hear ya Doran, if it was my kid... no dollar amount would do, and God have mercy on the wallet of the offender.
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I feel like a wet blanket half the time in the club, but I just want to point out the risks that some may not have thought of...one of my many job responsibilities in my work life...systems risk analysis.
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If he doesn't that can be taken care of. Been doing a little research into it, since we are looking at getting amber a small suv that would be capable of pulling phoenix. Mainly the Honda element!
Oh yeah, what the DOT don't know won't hurt them. And if you get caught just play stupid. Most likely the officer will not pay attention to the trailer on a non commercial plate vehicle anyways.
The problem with that logic is this Brandon...if you're involved in an accident, and you're towing over your rated limit...and you hurt MY family...do you think I, as the injured party, am going to say..."oh, well if its rated for that in Australia, then that's ok that Marissa will never walk again..." or...do you think any good lawyer would use that as negligence in the impending lawsuit? (Even if it wasn't your fault...)
Sometimes, the best & cheapest defense is playing within the rules...ya know?
I'm sure Tom's rig is safe, in fact, I'm positive it is...but it is outside the rated capacities. If it wasn't I'd have one, cuz I really like them.
I do agree with you Doran! It is not a good thing when people pull that. I here what I posted all the time about the DOT around here. You should see how many farm vehicles are overloaded on the roads, it is kind of scary!
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My trailer doesn't have brakes.
It's my understanding that the ratings on towing are based on braking not pulling caps. of car/truck/suv.
Could be wrong but it makes sense ... Towed a cement trailer (footing for my deck) about two miles with a small Nissan pick up, never got over 30 mph (because it couldn't !) but it had trailer brakes so stopping was no problem.
The Honda Element and CRV's have 2.4 L motors and will pull 1500 lbs which may work if I have half a tank of fuel and no one in the SUV.
Would be cuttin' it pretty close ... Don't like cutting things close ...
All my boats over the years have had liability insurance on them ... ya never know what could happen and for $110 a year it's a no brainer ...
Talk to Shawn guys ...
WOOOPs ... different thread ... LOL
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I feel like a wet blanket half the time in the club, but I just want to point out the risks that some may not have thought of...one of my many job responsibilities in my work life...systems risk analysis.
Doran, no need worry about that.
I can't speak for any one else... but in some cases i tend to do things that i know will work under normal circumstances, not always thinking about all the "what if's"
i seems you always have "sound, cautious advice" that i NEED TO hear and think about from time to time.
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We all call you "The old stick in the mud" behind your back Doran !
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Really more like "The voice of reason".
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We all call you "The old stick in the mud" behind your back Doran !
You're not suppose to tell him... lol
Anyway, what's wrong with an over kill tow rig?
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To be fair though, before I had this truck, my last was an Explorer back when they had a frame and were build like a truck. It had around a 4500lb max tow rating with a 210hp v6 and I may have crossed a scale at the local land fill at around 14,000lbs gross pulling a trailer full of shingles when I roofed my house...
P.S. The diesel Super Duty gets better mileage then the Explorer, but it doesn't fit into the garage as well...
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This has turned into a very interesting thread about towing, so I'm going to interject just a little something near and dear to me.
I come from a varied background of towing (many times foolishly to get by) with experience of growing up on a fairly large (for it's day - not by today's standards) farm to towing various recreation vehicles with tow vehicles that were sometimes undersized and to almost oversized in instances. From heavily loaded farm wagons where they were rated for almost 40 tons being pulled sometimes by some of our smaller tractors that weighed in at 8000#'s if lucky and stopping those front steered loads off a fairly steep downhill gravel road stop sign that ends onto busy highway 10 cross traffic (bad place to make any mistakes) - to pulling my parents 5th wheel with a specially ordered heavy Ford Camper Special with 460 - to pulling my parents airstream trailer with an underpowered and over-geared Dodge pickup with 316...but it got pretty good gas mileage in comparison - to even pulling my old Glastron GT-150 with a little Dodge Horizon Hatchback sometimes. I even pulled a trailer that hauls my 20,000 pound Lull telehandler home with that same 318, and I didn't have the correct trailer brakes hookup but just figured I'd crawl the 30 miles home on the back roads - even at 15-20 mph, those truck brakes were smoking before I even got half way home, and I worried continuously about that trailer pushing me into the ditch when going down hill or to a stop sign!!
But my specific point for this thread is an example that to this day makes foolhardy ME cringe when I meet anyone towing something where the towed item is obviously significantly larger than the tow vehicle - whether there are trailer brakes or not...but ESPECIALLY if NOT. I had a '78 T-Bird (still have it in storage) that I pulled a '72 21' Starcraft Travel Trailer. I figured it out one time and it averaged 4 mpg pulling that trailer (5000# trailer) before I super-charged the engine (those old 351M's (destroked 400's) couldn't breath very well without supercharging). But that car still had a full frame and was quite heavy. On the way home from one camping weekend, we ran into a storm. I caught a side-wind on a curve and I watched in the mirrors as that trailer went completely off onto the side of the road - but my T-Bird held firm and pulled it back onto the road like nothing ever happened. While the car obviously weighed less than the trailer - the ratio was enough to keep it under control without "tail wagging the dog".
I went on to have other experiences with that combo like hitting a deer (on a curve again) where the trailer would have jack-knifed if not for trailer brakes - but to this day I seriously cringe when I see a trailer-tow combination where there is an obvious ratio difference which could send them hurtling towards me and my family while on the road! Then Dorelse's lawyer's logic would obviously come into play too!! ;)
My point to this is, (and sorry if this is probably coming off as somewhat of a lecture rather than just an example and comment - that's not intended) even though the amount of power that can be gotten out of an engine and power train is improving all the time, if the tow vehicle doesn't have enough weight and stability, regardless of whether it can pull it or not, it can still be a significant risk to maintaining control of that combo.
So just for consideration, while you CAN "get by" more often that not (I'm certainly an example of not always having the funds to do things the "right" way and subsequently taking the chance) - IF something DOES go wrong, and only you can answer, will it really be worth the risk? :)
PS: I second that '02 Avalanche as a great Glastron tow vehicle - we are immensely pleased with our's too. :)
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Don't assume all 4 cyl's are the same. The 2013 escape 2.0 turbo is 240hp. 20 more than my 1999 dodge ram 2500 which can pull over 10000lbs
Gregg, your right rating comes from your suspension design and braking.
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Just to stir the pot a little since horsepower has been brought up - and this isn't specific to these towing comparisons, but it does play a part.
Going back to experiences that I observed from my farm background again - horsepower is only part of the equation - I learned long ago that what we called "lugging ability" plays a huge part too. For example - old two cylinder John Deere tractors had long strokes and big pistons...but when they went to the "New Generation" models, they went to 4 and 6 cylinder's and created the horsepower with higher speed. While we had the newer John Deere's and loved them - in an unusual example, my Uncle owned an implement business and in the '70's & '80's started to sell a popular (elsewhere) Russian tractor. We eventually bought one - it was a 4 cylinder, but had big pistons with long strokes - it would vibrate you to death...and even though it was rated for 80HP while our similar John Deere was 100HP, it only took 2 gallons of Diesel per hour compared with 5 for the JD.
So, regarding that lugging ability - if you placed that JD on the silo blower - it worked well but would bog down for slugs - still handled it, but did bog down (and took more fuel as it did). On that same blower (we had two because we had four silos) that Belarus would maintain the same RPM regardless of the load and actually would shear the pins in some cases.
So even though it had less HP, that "lugging ability" put it in a different class. We liked the John Deere's for field work for other reasons, but in certain circumstances like on those blowers, that "lugging" made a huge difference.
I see similar discussions on other chat lines about today's engines. The 8.1 liter Chev that is in our motorhome has been discontinued. It was old 455 technology modernized about as much as they could with electronic controls. They proudly now offer smaller displacement engines that produce more "horsepower". Part of that HP is by maintaining higher RPM's just like my John Deere example, along with turbo and/or supercharging, etc, and there's lots to admire about this newer technology and the less fuel consumption gains in perfect conditions. But when it comes to taking the same size motorhome up a hill - my old (2004) 8.1 liter will do it with much less effort AND less fuel consumption each and every time because it won't bog down as much as the RPMs go down and that "lugging ability" takes over! ;)
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Good point about the "lugging" power. You need a lot of low end torque and proper gearing to use the power for towing.
Speaking of not smart towing. When I moved out of my parents house 11 years ago I used my 87 country squire to tow my 69 Mark III 30 miles with a bumper hitch! Not to smart but you do what you got to do sometimes.
The county squire was rated to tow 5000lbs but not with a bumper hitch!
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if the tow vehicle doesn't have enough weight and stability, regardless of whether it can pull it or not, it can still be a significant risk to maintaining control of that combo
That purty much says it all. Particularly if you're forced to make a panic stop/emergency manouver.
Yeah I grew up towing stuff too. Pulling boats and campers and motorcycle trailers way before I had my license, under my parents supervision of course. Also took drivers ed in high school. Would ya believe I failed my freakin drivers test 3 times?! First time it was nerves. 2nd I was too ready, left arm hangin out the window palming the wheel with my right, etc. 3rd I guess I gotta lil to close to some pedestrians. Hell I gave em a good foot foot'n a half. Didn't hit any? Still remember the examiner, who on that occasion happened to be a rather attractive female, scootching closer to the center of the car as I passed them. But the 4th time was a charm!
Anyway back to towing. I have no problems pulling my lil boat(s) with my trusty 4cyl Ranger. Though I have to admit hauling that soggy C500 with the 140 on that humongous galvanized trailer down from Brooksville on I75 running 70-75 kept the adrenaline running.
Reckon what it boils down to is a couple of basics. Ain't no replacement for displacement. And, for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. 'Specially when referring to mass.
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I have to agree with the point made on power...
I prefer HP made from good ol fashion CI, not so much highly tuned high rpm motors
though i do enjoy the benefits of SFI over a carb.
And i prefer sound from a high power amp with a big heavy power transformer, not so much those with a switching power supply (digital amps)
BTW...
did we totally hijack this thread :-[
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Takin' "Thread Theft" one step farther ...
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did we totally hijack this thread :-[
Not at all. This old girl has never met anything that she couldn't pull, but she has met a few things were hard to stop without trailer brakes.
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I can't help but add to the Driver's Ed part. I passed on the first try...but I truly believe it is because the examiner was afraid that he might get me again!! ;)
On the way to the exam I was pulled over. As I handed the policeman my learners permit - he handed it back and asked for my Dad's license and identification?? After checking it out, he explained that my father looked like the criminal they were on the lookout for!
Don't know if it had shaken me up a bit or not - but that old '68 Mercury Park Lane Brougham (before you ask, yes, it's still rusting away in one of the sheds (still have a '69 Mark III like that too ironically, my family collected a lot of stuff in the past) - trying to get rid of stuff though, I really am...), anyway, it had one of those hold straps on the side of the door that you can use to pull the door shut, although they were mainly for decorative I think. By the time I was done with the examiner - after having a near head-on collision with my Aunt on our Main Street - he was holding onto that strap like his life depended on it when we rolled back into the parking lot! I thought I had failed for sure...but he said (in a shaky voice), that I needed a bit more confidence - but that he was going to pass me!!
Remember THAT next time you see me coming your way!! LOL :)
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NOW we have totally hijacked this thread ... Btw nice rig Barb.
'Member I took my driver test(s) in a '66 Plymouth Fury. Handed down from Granpappy Jack. Only had about 40k on it when I got it. As per his usual specs the car was a white sedan, had a big motor in it, with AC. And as few other options as possible. Though it did have power steering, no power brakes.
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NOW we have totally hijacked this thread
Sorry, wasn't intended - just had to interject what I thought might be humorous addition to your comment. :)
What's that they always say? Sometimes "crap" happens... ;)
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I wouldn't sweat it. Ain't heard GC complain ...?
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Takin' "Thread Theft" one step farther ...
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you're sick Gregg... just sayin'...
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Takin' "Thread Theft" one step farther ...
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Gregg sick Wex?
Nah....just twisted a little bit I thinks!!! ;)
But I have to say, I Like It! I Like It! ;D
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Found it on the Glastron's site ...
I'm not sick ... just kind of hung over ....
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I told Santa that pulling the sleigh with a Glastron boat was unusual, but "It's only weird if it does not work."
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Hey. Not tryin' to start anything. But who's the real Santa. The dude drivin the boat or the dude steering the sleigh?
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Good question ...
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What have you done to my thread? Has everyone had too much New Year's celebration?
How about a few dozen deletes?
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Sorry, need to throw in one more thing.
As mentioned earlier, its one thing to be able to pull something and another to stop it.
When I was looking for a tow vehicle last year that had a decent balance of HP, torque and towing capacity I noticed what a huge difference in the specs if the trailer had brakes or not.
I ended up with an 01 Mitsubishi Montero Sport XS.
Towing capacity with Brakes 5,000 lbs
Towing capacity w/o brakes something like 1500 lbs.
Obviously, this has nothing to do with the motor size.
Personally, I think wheelbase plays a part on how well something pulls.
Check with the manufactures specs.
Most idiotic pulling combo I managed was pulling my 69 442 on a car trailer with a 74 Olds Cutlass with a bumper hitch for over 200 miles. Scary.
When I was loading the car, the back end of the Cutlass came off the ground and started rolling. I ended up putting it up against a tree to stop that. :D
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If anyone is still looking for a tow vehicle, I recently looked at the new Subaru Outback and the Forester. These are 4 cylinder, 2.4 liter, about 176 hp, and have a factory tow rating of 2700 lbs. They come with a CVT transmission. Maybe this would be something to consider. I'm planning on driving my Element (now with 92k) for a long time to come, but while having it serviced to flush all fluids, I wandered over to the Subaru line and took them for a test drive. Subaru engine is a flat 4, so it has no vibration. A new Forester design will be coming out in March 2013 (called a 2014). Mileage while not towing is good, near 30. Tom S.
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Eric I found the trailer weights in my 84 brochure CA16 alum 380lbs /SC16 steel 520 lbs
Fuel 100
91 175 Faststrike (Iboats) 394
Motor controls and cables 15
batt 45
ski bar+oil tank 30
Net weight 786 lbs. Add 50 more for fuel. 10 more for oil tank/skibar = Net 726lbs.
They probably didn't add 20 lbs for the steel fuel tank.
Boatsepcs.iboats lists 1980 cvx 16 at 700 lbs. 1971 plain cv 16 wt 566 lbs. Rated 120hp per Gregg's brochures. 1972 at 673 lbs. 1988 at 750 lbs.
If anyone in the Kansas City area needs a CV 16 there is a current one on Craigslist w/o trailer or motor for $500. It's in the sanded down stage, he may finish it.
Don't know if if can be just clearcoated or not. Some have used Emron acrylic paint. I left the website on Classic Glastron.