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Offline CVX Fever

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Small-Block Chevy Marine Performance by Dennis Moore
« on: August 29, 2012, 04:07:08 PM »
Anyone know where I can get my hands on this book? Out of publication and sold for under $20 when it was. I can get a used one at Amazon but prices start at $189. Some guy on Craigslist in MI has one for sale for $150. Checked Hennepin and Carver county libraries. No luck

Supposedly it's the bible for building a small block chevy for marine use. Would really like to read through it.
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Re: Small-Block Chevy Marine Performance by Dennis Moore
« Reply #1 on: August 30, 2012, 09:14:28 AM »
Anyone know where I can get my hands on this book? Out of publication and sold for under $20 when it was. I can get a used one at Amazon but prices start at $189. Some guy on Craigslist in MI has one for sale for $150. Checked Hennepin and Carver county libraries. No luck

Supposedly it's the bible for building a small block chevy for marine use. Would really like to read through it.
How about contacting Dennis Moore directly?  He is a Minnesota native.

I've talked to him.

http://www.mooreperformance.info/MercruiserSBmanifold.html
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67 V163 Bayflite Super Sport  1989 100HP Merc
67 V164 Bayflite 120HP
67 V174 Crestflite Rat Rod
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88 CVX-23 350 Mag

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Re: Small-Block Chevy Marine Performance by Dennis Moore
« Reply #2 on: August 30, 2012, 01:32:45 PM »
Ross - Hey thanks for the heads-up. I've been to his site and apparently there is nothing even he can do to get a copy or have the book published again. Apparently he sold the rights and I read the whole situation is kind of a sore spot for him.

I did find a library in Lincoln, NE of all places that has a copy sittng on the shelf. Now I just have to figure out how to get it!...LOL

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Re: Small-Block Chevy Marine Performance by Dennis Moore
« Reply #3 on: August 30, 2012, 02:29:59 PM »
There is a series of books by Tex Smith from Hot Rod Mag. on how to do almost anything I wanted the one "how to build Chrysler, Plymouth, Dodge Hot Rods. Everything I found on Amazon, or E-Bay, was $150 - $350. I went to "Mopars in the Park" a couple years ago and there was a guy selling books.  The Chrysler one is the hardest to find because not many were printed. Damed if he didn't have one/ "How much?" I asked "How bout $20" he said.



Be patient, maybe one will show up. However The machine work and balancing will have to be done by a machine shop. Find a good one, and trust em.
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Re: Small-Block Chevy Marine Performance by Dennis Moore
« Reply #4 on: August 30, 2012, 04:32:00 PM »
Jerry - Looks like I can just go over the library in Mound and they can get me the book from another library, even one in a different state if need be. If I decide I really want my own copy I can keep an eye out for one. I'd be OK with running across a deal like you did!....LOL

I've got a 350 engine with a MerCruiser Gen 2 drive that I need to pull out of a Rinker I bought last fall and stick into my CVX18. Undecided what I am going to do w/the engine. So need/want to educate myself a little and then find a good marine engine builder and see what makes the most sense performance and budget wise.   
 
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Re: Small-Block Chevy Marine Performance by Dennis Moore
« Reply #5 on: August 30, 2012, 05:59:52 PM »
Kip, The only "Marine engine builder" I know around here is Myron Cottrell, I wouldn't have him rebuild my lawn mower unless I really wanted to spend more than a new motor. Jack Wheeler did all my racing motors. He worked out of his basement and built more record holding motors than any other builder. The secret to a SBC is in the heads.
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Re: Small-Block Chevy Marine Performance by Dennis Moore
« Reply #6 on: August 30, 2012, 08:08:27 PM »
This is an interesting book I have. Not marine but still, its small blocks. He puts together 4-5 motors with different HP and dollar amounts just to show what you can get for how much. He writes off 305's for this purpose.

http://www.amazon.com/Build-Performance-Blocks-Budget-Design/dp/1884089348/ref=la_B001JOWD4M_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1346375082&sr=1-7
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67 V163 Bayflite Super Sport  1989 100HP Merc
67 V164 Bayflite 120HP
67 V174 Crestflite Rat Rod
71 V175 Crestflite 350ci -Jet
73 GT 160
84 CVX 17  83 115 Merc
88 CVX-23 350 Mag

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Re: Small-Block Chevy Marine Performance by Dennis Moore
« Reply #7 on: August 31, 2012, 08:05:26 AM »
Jack Wheeler did all my racing motors. He worked out of his basement and built more record holding motors than any other builder. The secret to a SBC is in the heads.

Jerry do you know if Jack is still around or who builds in his shop now?  I remember getting a quote on my old 406 about 12 years ago from a guy named Gary who had a ponytail.  I wound up having Gene Pearson build my motor.

Mike Kelley on Payne Avenue built my uncles 406 thats in his Century.  I wish I had Kelley build mine back when.

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Re: Small-Block Chevy Marine Performance by Dennis Moore
« Reply #8 on: August 31, 2012, 09:20:44 AM »
Jack is still alive and doing well. There was a picture of him in the last Line Chaser (MSRA) at the Torquers reunion. There still is a "Jack Wheeler Racing", but he has nothing to do with it. The only Gary I know is Gary Hedden who was a partner of mine in a C/Dragster. I think he builds superchargers now. I use Hedwerks here in Bloomington. Boat motors are a lot like stock rather than a racing motor with 14 to 1 compression, and close valve to piston clearance. A good balance and roller cam, with a good set of heads will make a good boat motor.
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Re: Small-Block Chevy Marine Performance by Dennis Moore
« Reply #9 on: August 31, 2012, 10:24:34 AM »
Jerry - I've got some people out here I plan to to talk to and see if they can recommend someone. Preferably someone like Jack that works out of there garage or basement. The guy who did the 400 for a Pontiac I had years back did it in his garage mostly and that was a good experience.

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He writes off 305's for this purpose

Ross that's why I got the 350 versus "souping up" the current 305. Same footprint and weight with more torque, which is what you want in a boat. 
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Re: Small-Block Chevy Marine Performance by Dennis Moore
« Reply #10 on: August 31, 2012, 06:33:46 PM »
If ya lived close to Oklahoma I'd get a kick out of building you a small block for your boat, but I don't like building a motor that comes to rest so far from the nest.
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Re: Small-Block Chevy Marine Performance by Dennis Moore
« Reply #11 on: August 31, 2012, 08:50:51 PM »
Red - I'd love to have you build me a motor, it's obvious you know your way around a sbc, but yep the logistics kind of put a damper on that idea.
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Re: Small-Block Chevy Marine Performance by Dennis Moore
« Reply #12 on: August 31, 2012, 09:17:51 PM »
Kip
We could put your motor in my boat and bring them both down to Red !
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Wish I had the funds to do it !

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Re: Small-Block Chevy Marine Performance by Dennis Moore
« Reply #13 on: September 01, 2012, 11:07:08 AM »
Jerry - I've got some people out here I plan to to talk to and see if they can recommend someone. Preferably someone like Jack that works out of there garage or basement. The guy who did the 400 for a Pontiac I had years back did it in his garage mostly and that was a good experience.

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He writes off 305's for this purpose

Ross that's why I got the 350 versus "souping up" the current 305. Same footprint and weight with more torque, which is what you want in a boat. 
Right, good move. I didnt know you picked up a 350. I figured if the timing was right, you might end up with Jeff's...once he builds the stroker for his.
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67 V163 Bayflite Super Sport  1989 100HP Merc
67 V164 Bayflite 120HP
67 V174 Crestflite Rat Rod
71 V175 Crestflite 350ci -Jet
73 GT 160
84 CVX 17  83 115 Merc
88 CVX-23 350 Mag

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Re: Small-Block Chevy Marine Performance by Dennis Moore
« Reply #14 on: September 01, 2012, 12:17:17 PM »
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I figured if the timing was right, you might end up with Jeff's...once he builds the stroker for his.
Cat's out of the bag now Jeff, you been Busted
Now I got some work cut out for me before we meet up again.
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Re: Small-Block Chevy Marine Performance by Dennis Moore
« Reply #15 on: September 01, 2012, 08:36:04 PM »
Give it up Jeff, are you sticking a stroker in that CVX18 of yours? Very cool if you are! 8)
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Re: Small-Block Chevy Marine Performance by Dennis Moore
« Reply #16 on: September 01, 2012, 08:55:05 PM »
Looking for a 27 no stroker at this point well see what happens.
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Re: Small-Block Chevy Marine Performance by Dennis Moore
« Reply #17 on: September 01, 2012, 09:12:54 PM »
Looking for a 27 no stroker at this point well see what happens.
Holy Smoly  Jeff ... a 27 with Two Strokers?
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Re: Small-Block Chevy Marine Performance by Dennis Moore
« Reply #18 on: September 01, 2012, 09:29:53 PM »
Jeff, while I had my SSV and lived in south Texas (before I met Courtney), I had been saving for a down payment on a Crownline 270CR (now the 280 CR) ... thought I could take some time as a single guy and go along the coastline from Corpus Christi, TX to the Florida Keys ... had a full head, tiny kitchenette ... could have been a lot of fun.  

http://crownline.com/mymodel/280-cr/

I just looked at the GS 289 from Glastron ... when the kids leave home ...
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Re: Small-Block Chevy Marine Performance by Dennis Moore
« Reply #19 on: September 01, 2012, 09:33:54 PM »
WOW !
A CV27 with twin strokers !
Ya win the Lotto Jeff ?

Chris's 27 was up "For Sale" awhile ago ...
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