Author Topic: 1980 CVX (Read 28350 times)

Hyperacme · « **Reply #20 on:** December 27, 2012, 11:18:58 AM »

Just thinking about MPG when I'm not towing ...
and the new Escapes are four cyl. turbos ...

dorelse · « **Reply #21 on:** December 27, 2012, 11:48:46 AM »

Quote from: Jerry on December 27, 2012, 11:13:37 AM

Gregg, That may depend on if you plan on towing it up a hill. I never meet someone who said "I have too much horsepower"

That might be true, but have you ever heard someone say, "Thank God my truck costs $125.00 to fill up...I had too much money in my bank account!"

If so, I have an Avalanche that needs to meet your debit card.

Jason · « **Reply #22 on:** December 27, 2012, 12:25:05 PM »

Gregg. You should be right around 1500lbs.

Engine: 350
Trailer: 500
Hull: 700

1550

You don't tow it real far. I would go with the Turbo 4. You should be plenty fine. You could tow that boat with just about anything.

dorelse · « **Reply #23 on:** December 27, 2012, 12:40:36 PM »

Quote from: 74GlasCarlSS on December 27, 2012, 12:25:05 PM

You don't tow it real far. I would go with the Turbo 4. You should be plenty fine. You could tow that boat with just about anything.

My thoughts exactly...

Jerry · « **Reply #24 on:** December 27, 2012, 01:40:50 PM »

With my motorhome I don't know if I have a boat behind me or not, even the winner. It's a 440 V8 (8 MPG).

With the old Jeep I towed the Classic Barracuda back from California through Donner Pass, in a blizzard. and Okie-Dokie back from OK at 70+ MPH V8 (16 MPG) Both times I was glad I had the HP and 4 wheel Drive.

With the Dakota I drop out of O/D going up the Burnsville hill on 35W 3,3 V6 (24 MPG) I think it would make it through Donner Pas OK, but it would be working hard.

i haven't towed any distance with the Bravada yet, but it's a 4.something V6 and 5 speed 4 wheel drive, and I think it gets around 30 MPG, and will be a great tow vehicle,

The 4 cyl cars I have owned and the 48 Plymouth towed things, but I get passed a lot. I'm sure the turbo makes all the difference and will work fine, just don't go to Sacramento in December.

Hyperacme · « **Reply #25 on:** December 27, 2012, 03:58:46 PM »

CV16 - 650 lbs.
Merc 115 hp ELPTO - 340 lbs.
Karavan trailer - 420 lbs.
Battery - 50 lbs.
Fuel/oil - about 150 lbs.

Total about 1600 lbs. give or take ...

2002 Ford Escape V6 AWD about 18 mpg (city/hiway combind) on a good day !

Jason · « **Reply #26 on:** December 27, 2012, 06:50:09 PM »

Quote from: Jerry on December 27, 2012, 01:40:50 PM

i haven't towed any distance with the Bravada yet, but it's a 4.something V6 and 5 speed 4 wheel drive, and I think it gets around 30 MPG, and will be a great tow vehicle,

30MPG!!!!! I wish. Mine has been getting 16-17mpg.

carlsoncvx18 · « **Reply #27 on:** December 27, 2012, 07:08:22 PM »

And my wife's full size yukon with a 6liter and all wheel drive gets 14mpg in the city and 17 on the highway

Hyperacme · « **Reply #28 on:** December 27, 2012, 07:23:24 PM »

The Korean Cadillac (Chev Aveo) get about 30 MPG in city/hiway ...

David CVX-16 · « **Reply #29 on:** December 27, 2012, 07:56:27 PM »

2002 Toyota Celica Go Kart gets about 30+ MPH overall, 1.8 liter, 140 HP, 5 speed stick, 2,500 pounds.

Terry_Curran · « **Reply #30 on:** December 27, 2012, 07:57:16 PM »

We have a 2005 Trailblazer with the 4.2L Vortex. On the highway driving 70 to 75 we get 19 to 20. Average is about 16. When we tow our boat, minimum 4500lbs, I take it out of OD and average about 13 on the highway, and that's driving 65.
For an in-line 6, I'm pretty impressed when towing our boat to Iowa, Red Wing and around our state.
Terry

dorelse · « **Reply #31 on:** December 27, 2012, 08:23:49 PM »

I traded my '98 Dodge Ram 1500, 10-12 MPG for a 2007 Ford Sport Trac w/4.0L 6 Cyl - 14 MPG, then went 'Up' to my current '02 Avalanche, which gets 18 MPG...been very happy with it.

(Couldn't believe the Ford...horrible, owned it a grand total of 3 mos.) The Av never get's over 3k RPM's so I think that helps the MPG quite a bit, we love it.

Did I mention it has a tent too!

75starflight · « **Reply #32 on:** December 27, 2012, 09:07:02 PM »

My 99 Yukon gets around 20 MPG running down the hwy at 75 MPH with its thirsty 350 sb with out the boat behind it. Now on the other hand with the boat behind it I avg around 15 to 13 MPG.
Doesnt tom stibibe pull his CSS 19 around with a honda element that has a 4 cylinder in it? If he can pull that Gregg you should do fine with the turbo charged 4 in the escape!

dorelse · « **Reply #33 on:** December 27, 2012, 09:18:51 PM »

Quote from: 75starflite on December 27, 2012, 09:07:02 PM

Doesnt tom stibibe pull his CSS 19 around with a honda element that has a 4 cylinder in it? If he can pull that Gregg you should do fine with the turbo charged 4 in the escape!

He does...however, outside the US, the Element (exact same everything) is rated to tow much more than it is in the US. (Thanks to the lawyers!) He also has trailer brakes, which Gregg doesn't...or do you Gregg?

75starflight · « **Reply #34 on:** December 27, 2012, 09:39:29 PM »

Quote from: dorelse on December 27, 2012, 09:18:51 PM

Quote from: 75starflite on December 27, 2012, 09:07:02 PM

Doesnt tom stibibe pull his CSS 19 around with a honda element that has a 4 cylinder in it? If he can pull that Gregg you should do fine with the turbo charged 4 in the escape!

He does...however, outside the US, the Element (exact same everything) is rated to tow much more than it is in the US. (Thanks to the lawyers!) He also has trailer brakes, which Gregg doesn't...or do you Gregg?

If he doesn't that can be taken care of. Been doing a little research into it, since we are looking at getting amber a small suv that would be capable of pulling phoenix. Mainly the Honda element!

Sorry, I retract my statement about the DOT.

dorelse · « **Reply #35 on:** December 27, 2012, 10:02:20 PM »

Quote from: 75starflite on December 27, 2012, 09:39:29 PM

If he doesn't that can be taken care of. Been doing a little research into it, since we are looking at getting amber a small suv that would be capable of pulling phoenix. Mainly the Honda element!

Oh yeah, what the DOT don't know won't hurt them. And if you get caught just play stupid. Most likely the officer will not pay attention to the trailer on a non commercial plate vehicle anyways.

The problem with that logic is this Brandon...if you're involved in an accident, and you're towing over your rated limit...and you hurt MY family...do you think I, as the injured party, am going to say..."oh, well if its rated for that in Australia, then that's ok that Marissa will never walk again..." or...do you think any good lawyer would use that as negligence in the impending lawsuit? (Even if it wasn't your fault...)

Sometimes, the best & cheapest defense is playing within the rules...ya know?

I'm sure Tom's rig is safe, in fact, I'm positive it is...but it is outside the rated capacities. If it wasn't I'd have one, cuz I really like them.

wexrocks · « **Reply #36 on:** December 27, 2012, 10:48:02 PM »

Isn't it a shame that lawyers/courts/lawsuits predict our every move?

But I hear ya Doran, if it was my kid... no dollar amount would do, and God have mercy on the wallet of the offender.

dorelse · « **Reply #37 on:** December 27, 2012, 11:08:14 PM »

I feel like a wet blanket half the time in the club, but I just want to point out the risks that some may not have thought of...one of my many job responsibilities in my work life...systems risk analysis.

75starflight · « **Reply #38 on:** December 28, 2012, 07:48:10 AM »

Quote from: dorelse on December 27, 2012, 10:02:20 PM

Quote from: 75starflite on December 27, 2012, 09:39:29 PM
If he doesn't that can be taken care of. Been doing a little research into it, since we are looking at getting amber a small suv that would be capable of pulling phoenix. Mainly the Honda element!

Oh yeah, what the DOT don't know won't hurt them. And if you get caught just play stupid. Most likely the officer will not pay attention to the trailer on a non commercial plate vehicle anyways.

The problem with that logic is this Brandon...if you're involved in an accident, and you're towing over your rated limit...and you hurt MY family...do you think I, as the injured party, am going to say..."oh, well if its rated for that in Australia, then that's ok that Marissa will never walk again..." or...do you think any good lawyer would use that as negligence in the impending lawsuit? (Even if it wasn't your fault...)

Sometimes, the best & cheapest defense is playing within the rules...ya know?

I'm sure Tom's rig is safe, in fact, I'm positive it is...but it is outside the rated capacities. If it wasn't I'd have one, cuz I really like them.

I do agree with you Doran! It is not a good thing when people pull that. I here what I posted all the time about the DOT around here. You should see how many farm vehicles are overloaded on the roads, it is kind of scary!

Hyperacme · « **Reply #39 on:** December 28, 2012, 08:03:09 AM »

My trailer doesn't have brakes.

It's my understanding that the ratings on towing are based on braking not pulling caps. of car/truck/suv.
Could be wrong but it makes sense ... Towed a cement trailer (footing for my deck) about two miles with a small Nissan pick up, never got over 30 mph (because it couldn't !) but it had trailer brakes so stopping was no problem.
The Honda Element and CRV's have 2.4 L motors and will pull 1500 lbs which may work if I have half a tank of fuel and no one in the SUV.
Would be cuttin' it pretty close ... Don't like cutting things close ...

All my boats over the years have had liability insurance on them ... ya never know what could happen and for $110 a year it's a no brainer ...
Talk to Shawn guys ...
WOOOPs ... different thread ... LOL