Author Topic: You can call me skegless (Read 26419 times)

Plugcheck · « **on:** August 17, 2015, 10:38:08 AM »

Pic of my lower unit Saturday night, as Gump would say, "it happens"

fireman24mn · « **Reply #1 on:** August 17, 2015, 10:40:56 AM »

That sucks but at least you didn't remove the whole lower unit or crack it and loose the oil.

dorelse · « **Reply #2 on:** August 17, 2015, 10:55:59 AM »

Ouch Mike.

This was on the St. Croix?

Plugcheck · « **Reply #3 on:** August 17, 2015, 11:41:18 AM »

Tim was able to go on plane through the war zone aka the st Croix. We considered stopping at Prescott and trailer it out, Terry had the trailer key, but he still had enough voltage to get back on plane south of the no wake zone at Prescott. We got back up, I was following him to the right of his wake. He hit it also, tearing off the fin from his jet. I somewhat remember a lot of boats coming/going and I think we went too far right to avoid them. I ran to shore asap to check damage, Tim came back a short while later. I thought I was going down. Ended up on shore just north of where the other boat sank. First thing that ran through my mind mind was that I likely do not have enough flotation foam.

75starflight · « **Reply #4 on:** August 17, 2015, 12:12:12 PM »

By navionics it looks like a couple pretty long wing dikes just out of the no wake zone to the south of Prescott. I don't remember any buoys in that area I will have o check the gopro video this evening to see. Maybe that is what took out that cruiser.

Jason · « **Reply #5 on:** August 17, 2015, 12:13:06 PM »

That sucks. Wind dam? Log?

I was just going to say an event with no major breakdowns. At least, as far as i know, everyone made it back under their own power.

Jason · « **Reply #6 on:** August 17, 2015, 12:28:23 PM »

Usually towards the end of summer the river is at it's lowest. It has it's benifits like slow current and not much debris, but the down side is you can hit wing dams if you go over them. It's usually difficult to see ripples. Needs to be dead calm. Just stay between red/green buoys and watch for logs and river boating is easy.

I know this gets covered in the safety meeting before the Saturday ride. I think with the lack of a common area caused a lot of members to miss the meeting. Notes for next time.

dorelse · « **Reply #7 on:** August 17, 2015, 12:55:46 PM »

Quote from: Jason on August 17, 2015, 12:28:23 PM

I know this gets covered in the safety meeting before the Saturday ride. I think with the lack of a common area caused a lot of members to miss the meeting. Notes for next time.

I don't remember seeing any buoy's either Mike...I just followed a couple other boats in and out and I guess I got lucky as I had no idea the St. Croix had wing dams there...so I would have been in the same boat as you...in fact, I remember seeing boats and tubers on the East side of the river as I approached Kinni beach.

What's the next step Mike? SEI Drive?

Terry_Curran · « **Reply #8 on:** August 17, 2015, 02:07:10 PM »

The area Brandon has posted, is on the Mississippi River. Looks like it's right after the no wake zone heading south

Terry

dorelse · « **Reply #9 on:** August 17, 2015, 02:20:29 PM »

Quote from: SSV-191 on August 17, 2015, 02:07:10 PM

The area Brandon has posted, is on the Mississippi River. Looks like it's right after the no wake zone heading south

Terry

Duh.

Regardless guys, very sorry to hear you both took damage, that is no bueno.

V153 · « **Reply #10 on:** August 17, 2015, 02:29:22 PM »

Well, look on the bright side. Ya might pick up a mph with no skeg ...

Sorry killing time in St Louis.

Plugcheck · « **Reply #11 on:** August 17, 2015, 02:39:09 PM »

I may not be reading the Navionics print correctly, but if I am, then going to the left or up is heading down river. The line is the state boundary, not the channel, correct? In any case, we were right of the buoys, but I thought red-right-return which we believe to indicate that the red buoys should be on your right when going upstream, then they should be on your left going downstream? Honestly, I thought we were in an area of no buoys? Ya know the funny thing, we never consumed a drop of alcohol on Saturday before getting back that night, see what happens when you only drink water! Checking last night, I found gouges and some chunks of wood in the drive. Oil came out OK, so hopefully I can use the housing. Maybe I could move to Prescott and rebuild outdrives for a living, sounds promising?

75starflight · « **Reply #12 on:** August 17, 2015, 03:06:28 PM »

the right side of the picture would be going down stream and the left would be heading up.

Plugcheck · « **Reply #13 on:** August 17, 2015, 05:05:46 PM »

We were near the middle, or slightly right of middle when it happened, likely we we south of the map location. Does the river turn and then have wing dams on the other side.

Terry_Curran · « **Reply #14 on:** August 17, 2015, 05:21:38 PM »

Sorry about your return trip. Here are some pics going south. And yes, there are wing dams to the Minnesota side of the river.

Terry

Plugcheck · « **Reply #15 on:** August 17, 2015, 06:03:08 PM »

The second image you posted looks as close to our scenario as we can recall. We were near the middle, but likely right of green buoys, if there were any. I will find some navigation electronics before next year.

Rosscoe · « **Reply #16 on:** August 17, 2015, 07:56:22 PM »

I took some chunks out of my skeg as well but it was at the exit of the TI bay or lake. I was way right before I noticed the small channel by the sign to exit the bay/lake. Jerked the boat a bit but not too massive.
I got out of the channel a couple of times on the way back Saturday as well. Between Prescott and TI. Sometimes I could not see the buoys or they completely shifted from Mn side to Wi side and I wasn't paying attention. I dont recall hitting anything at those times.

David CVX-16 · « **Reply #17 on:** August 17, 2015, 10:24:30 PM »

You can download detailed maps of the Mississippi by chart numbers. The legend indicates that the "fingers" coming out from the banks of the River on both sides are the wing dams. Best bet is to never stray outside of the red and green marked buoy channel, even though there is a lot of distance to the banks.

Legend to the maps: http://www.mvr.usace.army.mil/Portals/48/docs/Nav/NavigationCharts/UMR/LEGEND.pdf

Chart #18 from mile 808 to 814 of the Mississippi from the junction of the St. Croix and Mississippi Rivers.

http://www.mvr.usace.army.mil/Portals/48/docs/Nav/NavigationCharts/UMR/CHART_18.pdf

Chart #19 to just about treasure island, miles 808 to 803:

http://www.mvr.usace.army.mil/Portals/48/docs/Nav/NavigationCharts/UMR/CHART_19.pdf

Chart #20 to lock and dam #3, miles 802 to 796

http://www.mvr.usace.army.mil/Portals/48/docs/Nav/NavigationCharts/UMR/CHART_20.pdf

Plugcheck · « **Reply #18 on:** August 18, 2015, 07:54:18 AM »

Thanks for the maps, I will need to have those handy for next year. From a cursory review, it appears we clipped the dams in the MP 810 area. I do not remember seeing any buoys, river was fairly straight, and we were very close to the middle. Got pushed to the right from larger boats wake, trying to find calmer water. In hindsight, we should have stopped and waited for the channel to clear up some. Education comes in many forms, sometimes we learn the hard way.

Jason · « **Reply #19 on:** August 18, 2015, 09:33:59 AM »

Quote from: Plugcheck on August 17, 2015, 06:03:08 PM

I will find some navigation electronics before next year.

Got a smart phone? Get Navionics.

Nice to see a lot of other members are using this. It's saved me many times.