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Offline nes-cv23

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Next project: ugly duckling
« on: September 05, 2016, 07:07:06 PM »
Even the ugly ones need to be saved.....74cv-18.     Check out the outdrive..      Never seen one like it.   Have a 302 ford-mercruiser  to replace the old merc.-kiekhaefer.  Water intake under hull like a jet.   Full railing from windshield to transom.     What a "can of worms" have I opened.
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84 ssv-151, 76 cvx-16 ss, 77cvx-20 jet, 90 CSS-19, 78 cv-23, 77 gt-150, 2-78 cvx-16, 79cvx-16, 79 cvz-18,  73 cv-16, 74 cv-18, 89 219 Futura, 76 gt-150 jet, 79 cv-23, 02 Gx-225,  1980 intimidator = done!.. 79 hvp175   Now  done?

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Re: Next project: ugly duckling
« Reply #1 on: September 05, 2016, 08:36:10 PM »
That outdrive can't be original. Is it? Was it a jet before? Seems like most of these I see are 351 Jets.

Only made two years 74-75. Seem to be somewhat rare.

Can't wait to watch this project!
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Re: Next project: ugly duckling
« Reply #2 on: September 05, 2016, 08:44:11 PM »
Yeah...never seen one up close!

Should be a fun project!
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Re: Next project: ugly duckling
« Reply #3 on: September 06, 2016, 09:22:03 AM »
Water intake under hull ?
Very COOL !
I'm emailing you a PDF with more Mercruiser info.

Mercruiser stuff ...
http://forum.cgoamn.com/index.php?topic=3736.0
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Re: Next project: ugly duckling
« Reply #4 on: September 06, 2016, 10:46:00 AM »
So a 351 jet in 74. 455 Jet in 75. Mercruiser 200 (351?) both years.
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Re: Next project: ugly duckling
« Reply #5 on: September 06, 2016, 12:05:15 PM »
All the other cv-18s I've seen have been jets, so when I saw this one with a l/o I had to see it.  And after looking at it and saying "no thanks, to much work" . He said do you want it because  I'm just going to scrap it... The words I hate... He also had a compleat mercruiser ford 302 that he was going to put into it. So I gave him some cash,will below that it was worth and now I have another major project..  I've never seen an outdrive like this one and it must be original because you can see the glass work is.   Any info on that outdrive??? I'd like to know what it is.  It has the same emblem that's on old merc outboards. I'll try to get a picture and post.
84 ssv-151, 76 cvx-16 ss, 77cvx-20 jet, 90 CSS-19, 78 cv-23, 77 gt-150, 2-78 cvx-16, 79cvx-16, 79 cvz-18,  73 cv-16, 74 cv-18, 89 219 Futura, 76 gt-150 jet, 79 cv-23, 02 Gx-225,  1980 intimidator = done!.. 79 hvp175   Now  done?

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Re: Next project: ugly duckling
« Reply #6 on: September 06, 2016, 12:33:14 PM »
Looks like a Mercruiser ii drive. 1962-69.

This site has exploded part drawings: https://www.marineengine.com/parts/mercruiser-sterndrive-parts/

Now that you mention the glasswork it does look original. How that ended up on that boat is beyond me. Special order? Dealer install?
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Re: Next project: ugly duckling
« Reply #7 on: September 06, 2016, 01:10:32 PM »
Buckaroo post some pictures of his CVC18 jet on CGOA ...
http://www.classicglastron.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=10218&start=70

Your must have been a I/O from the start, unless it was totally rebuilt at some point.

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Re: Next project: ugly duckling
« Reply #8 on: September 06, 2016, 05:37:22 PM »
Took a little closer look at this outdrive today.. Everything on it is huge.. Shafts,Rams,prop... Looks like it should be on some 40' cruiser not a 18' glastron..  Closer look at the glass also. if it was a conversion it was done when it was new. 
84 ssv-151, 76 cvx-16 ss, 77cvx-20 jet, 90 CSS-19, 78 cv-23, 77 gt-150, 2-78 cvx-16, 79cvx-16, 79 cvz-18,  73 cv-16, 74 cv-18, 89 219 Futura, 76 gt-150 jet, 79 cv-23, 02 Gx-225,  1980 intimidator = done!.. 79 hvp175   Now  done?

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Re: Next project: ugly duckling
« Reply #9 on: September 07, 2016, 10:07:07 AM »
Is that the "Water pick up" you were talking about ?
Maybe Rich will know what it is ...
Looks like the jet version has something in same spot, but not used.

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Re: Next project: ugly duckling
« Reply #10 on: September 07, 2016, 11:29:43 AM »
I read somewhere instead of tilting up out of the water it rotates to the left. Look like that is true? The trim cylinders must be just for trim.
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Re: Next project: ugly duckling
« Reply #11 on: September 07, 2016, 12:14:20 PM »
Yes,that looks like the same place the water pick-up is.   Jason, do you mean the hole outdrive twists out of the way?   There is a round collar that could go all the way through..  Could be,the tilt doesn't go up very far.  And the Rams are about twice as thick as a regular mercruiser.   Need to find out what this is......
84 ssv-151, 76 cvx-16 ss, 77cvx-20 jet, 90 CSS-19, 78 cv-23, 77 gt-150, 2-78 cvx-16, 79cvx-16, 79 cvz-18,  73 cv-16, 74 cv-18, 89 219 Futura, 76 gt-150 jet, 79 cv-23, 02 Gx-225,  1980 intimidator = done!.. 79 hvp175   Now  done?

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Re: Next project: ugly duckling
« Reply #12 on: September 07, 2016, 12:40:25 PM »
Looks like maybe it's suppose to have a manual crank on the inside.
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Re: Next project: ugly duckling
« Reply #13 on: September 08, 2016, 06:41:45 PM »
Picked up the donor motor-out drive last night. It's all there and is "suppose to" run.  I'm going to wire it up and see what happens.
84 ssv-151, 76 cvx-16 ss, 77cvx-20 jet, 90 CSS-19, 78 cv-23, 77 gt-150, 2-78 cvx-16, 79cvx-16, 79 cvz-18,  73 cv-16, 74 cv-18, 89 219 Futura, 76 gt-150 jet, 79 cv-23, 02 Gx-225,  1980 intimidator = done!.. 79 hvp175   Now  done?

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Re: Next project: ugly duckling
« Reply #14 on: September 09, 2016, 02:45:28 AM »
I've seen quite a few CV18 with a sterndrive. But all of them were Volvos.
We even have one here in Hamburg.
Sure is an odd outdrive though.

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Re: Next project: ugly duckling
« Reply #15 on: September 09, 2016, 03:07:32 AM »
Here are a few pics of Volvo CV18s:

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Re: Next project: ugly duckling
« Reply #16 on: September 09, 2016, 03:09:08 AM »
The CVCs had two different engine covers, one with a cushion on top which was the jet and the other one with a full fiberglass cover - the sterndrive. On this CV18 you can see the sterndrive engine cover. It seems this was not an option on the CVs?
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Re: Next project: ugly duckling
« Reply #17 on: September 09, 2016, 08:34:45 AM »
SO ... some one got the old Mercruiser to fit into the Volvo cut out ?
The blue CV with the low windshield looks kind of cool ...

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Re: Next project: ugly duckling
« Reply #18 on: September 10, 2016, 11:18:21 AM »
Cool
Glad you saved that one Bryan.
That water intake is nothing like the set up on my jet.
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Re: Next project: ugly duckling
« Reply #19 on: September 10, 2016, 06:23:09 PM »
I'm pretty sure that the water intake is for cooling of the motor not a jet. I would just like to see what it looked like with the motor and outdrive connected. Still have not been able to find any pictures of the old merc. Fury iekhaefer outdrive. On the other side I got the donor motor all wired up and it almost came to life before the starter gave up. Now that everything looks possible I have to put it on the back burner and finish the other two I'm doing first. the 73 cv-16 is all striped and ready to start building stringers and floor.
84 ssv-151, 76 cvx-16 ss, 77cvx-20 jet, 90 CSS-19, 78 cv-23, 77 gt-150, 2-78 cvx-16, 79cvx-16, 79 cvz-18,  73 cv-16, 74 cv-18, 89 219 Futura, 76 gt-150 jet, 79 cv-23, 02 Gx-225,  1980 intimidator = done!.. 79 hvp175   Now  done?