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Title: Glastron / Carlson Steering Wheels
Post by: Hyperacme on March 22, 2019, 11:42:33 AM
I have some pictures of wheels but if anyone has a good shot of there wheel, please post along with year and model.
Will edit as more info is forthcoming …

EDIT …
Any info on Mercury Ride Glide and Morse Command 200 systems would be helpful

Title: Re: Glastron / Carlson Steering Wheels
Post by: Hyperacme on March 22, 2019, 11:54:50 AM
1970
Glastron / Carlson .. Contender, Challenger, Conquest, CV16.
Metalflake plastic rim in boats color, chrome spokes and center cap.
Title: Re: Glastron / Carlson Steering Wheels
Post by: Hyperacme on March 22, 2019, 01:18:35 PM
1971
CV16 and Challenger still had metalflake rim to match boat color, like 1970 style.
The 1971 CV19 and CV21 have Mercury Ride Glide square shaft wood (plastic ?) rim and metal spokes, with chromed cap.
1972 style wheels look the same as 1971 wheels and are used on all models / CV16, CV16SS, CV19 & CV21.

Title: Re: Glastron / Carlson Steering Wheels
Post by: Hyperacme on March 22, 2019, 02:07:34 PM
1973
Wheels look same as 1971 / 1972.
Title: Re: Glastron / Carlson Steering Wheels
Post by: Hyperacme on March 22, 2019, 07:45:19 PM
1974
Are same as past years …
CV19, CV18SS, CV16SS and CV16
Center cap G
Title: Re: Glastron / Carlson Steering Wheels
Post by: Hyperacme on March 22, 2019, 08:32:43 PM
1975
Wheels were the same as past years.
CV16, CV16SS, CV16V8, CV18SS, CV19 & CV21
Title: Re: Glastron / Carlson Steering Wheels
Post by: Hyperacme on March 23, 2019, 09:32:20 AM
All 1971 thru 1975 CV21 & CV19 are listed as "Mercury Ride Guide" so cap might have ride glide sticker.
Mercury Ride Glide would have the square shaft on older versions.
Thay also have a splined shaft version.
Title: Re: Glastron / Carlson Steering Wheels
Post by: Hyperacme on March 23, 2019, 09:52:41 AM
The CV18SS is listed as using a "Morse Command 200" helm.
Helm has keyed taper shaft.
Title: Re: Glastron / Carlson Steering Wheels
Post by: Hyperacme on March 23, 2019, 10:42:18 AM
1976
Wheel changed to a light tan colored rim with solid chrome spokes and a tan colored center cap.
All helms are listed as Mercury Ride Glide. I think all were now keyed taper shaft helms.
My 1976 CV16 has this wheel and is keyed taper shaft.
CVC18 is listed as having a Morse Command 200 helm.
Title: Re: Glastron / Carlson Steering Wheels
Post by: Hyperacme on March 23, 2019, 12:23:39 PM
1977
Same wheel as 1976 on all models.
Most are listed as Morse Command 200 system.
Except CVX20 Jet which is listed as Mercury Ride Glide.
Title: Re: Glastron / Carlson Steering Wheels
Post by: Hyperacme on March 23, 2019, 01:00:26 PM
1978
Same style as 1976 & 1977
Listed as Morse Command 200 on most.
Except CVX20 Sprint which is "Dual Cable Mechanical" and  CVX20 Deluxe Jet which is "Mechanical Rack & Pinion".
CV23 I/O and CV23 HT I/O are listed as "Power Steering"
Title: Re: Glastron / Carlson Steering Wheels
Post by: Hyperacme on March 23, 2019, 01:28:47 PM
1979
Not sure about 1979 wheels ..
CV27 had a "Destroyer" style wheel.
CVX16SS I can't make out if there square or round holes in spokes.
CVZ18 has 1976 / 1977 wheel.
CVZ19 has square holes in spokes.

CVX16, CVX16 Deluxe, CVX16SS, CVX18 are listed as "Mechanical"
CVZ18 is listed "Mercury Rack & Pinion"  / "OMC True Course"
CVZ19 is listed "Rack & Pinion"
Title: Re: Glastron / Carlson Steering Wheels
Post by: Hyperacme on March 23, 2019, 03:29:04 PM
1980
Had square hole spokes CVX16 and CVX20 Jet. Only one's I could see.
CV27 Had Destroyer wheel.
Bass boats and SSV169 Sprint have all black, round hole spoke wheel.
Title: Re: Glastron / Carlson Steering Wheels
Post by: melinprov on March 24, 2019, 12:56:50 PM
looks like this now but after I add the inserts it should look like the next photo ( 73 V179 )
with inserts and cap
Title: Re: Glastron / Carlson Steering Wheels
Post by: Hyperacme on March 24, 2019, 02:15:18 PM
1981
The CV27 had a Destroyer wheel.
The Scimitar & CV23 had the wood/plastic rim, chrome spokes with square holes and chrome cap.
The C500, C512, C537, Ski Machine & Intimidator all had the small black rim, black spokes with round holes and chrome center cap.
There aren't any good pictures of CVX18 Cal. Spl. or CVZ18, CVZ19 to see what they had.

C500, C512, C537, CVZ19 are listed as "Mechanical"
Ski Machine is "Duel Cable"
CVX18, California Special, CVZ18 are listed "Merc Power"
Intimidator, Scimitar, CV23 I/O, CV27 are listed as "Power Steering"
Title: Re: Glastron / Carlson Steering Wheels
Post by: Hyperacme on March 24, 2019, 02:33:09 PM
1982
The CV27 had a Destroyer wheel.
Scimitar & CV23 had the wood/plastic rim, chrome spokes with square holes and chrome cap.
C500, C512, C535, C537, Ski Machine & Intimidator all had the small black rim, black spokes with round holes and chrome center cap.
Not sure what CVX18 had.
One of our members has this one (bottom picture) in his 1982 CVX16.
Title: Re: Glastron / Carlson Steering Wheels
Post by: Hyperacme on March 24, 2019, 03:04:09 PM
1983
Scimitar & CV23 had the wood/plastic rim, chrome spokes with square holes and chrome cap.
CVX17 & CVX18 had the small black rim, black spokes with round holes and chrome center cap.
CVX16 has plastic wheel bottom two pictures.
No picture of Ski Machines wheel.

CVX16 & CVX17 are listed as "Mechanical"
Ski Machine is "Dual Cable"
CVX18, CV23 & Scimitar are "Power Steering"
Title: Re: Glastron / Carlson Steering Wheels
Post by: Hyperacme on March 24, 2019, 04:29:32 PM
1984
CV23 has a chrome rim and spokes with round holes and a 1976 style center cap. SV191 has same wheel.
Can't see wheels on CVX20 Ski Machine and Sprint.
CVX16, CVX17, CVX18, Intimidator Have a new style black four spoke wheel with black center cap.
Although some have the Glastron style wheel (Bottom picture of CVX17 for sale on CL)

CVX16 & CVX17 are listed "Mechanical"
CVX20 Ski Machine and Sprint are listed  "Dual Cable Mechanical"
CVX18,  Intimidator, CV23 are listed "Power Steering"
Title: Re: Glastron / Carlson Steering Wheels
Post by: Hyperacme on March 24, 2019, 05:24:15 PM
1985
Can't see CVX16 wheel, CVX17 has 1984 four spoke style.
CVX18, Ski Machines, Sprint, Intimidator & CV23 Have a new style Black (maybe) leather rim, Three black spokes with oblong cut outs and black center cap. The cap is different from the next years style. Look at center cap.

CVX16, CVX17 are listed as "Mechanical"
CVX20 Ski Machine and Sprint are listed  "Dual Cable Mechanical"
CVX18,  Intimidator, CV23 are listed "Power Steering"
Title: Re: Glastron / Carlson Steering Wheels
Post by: Hyperacme on March 24, 2019, 05:48:05 PM
1986
Pictures of CVX17 and CV23 look like the 1985 wheel.

CVX16 & CVX17 are listed "Mechanical"
CVX20 Sprint is listed  "Dual Cable Mechanical"
CVX18,  Intimidator, CV23 are listed "Power Steering"

Title: Re: Glastron / Carlson Steering Wheels
Post by: Hyperacme on March 24, 2019, 06:06:14 PM
1987
The one's pictured have the 1985 / 1986 wheels.
Dave's CVX16 and a lot of the 1987 Glastron's have the black rim, oblong spoke cut outs and a different style center cap.
Two (Red & Blue) 1987 CV23's have this emblem in center cap.

Title: Re: Glastron / Carlson Steering Wheels
Post by: Hyperacme on March 24, 2019, 07:03:07 PM
1988
Same as 1985 / 1986 / 1987 wheels.

Title: Re: Glastron / Carlson Steering Wheels
Post by: Hyperacme on March 24, 2019, 07:12:30 PM
1989
Same as 1985 /1986 / 1987 / 1988.
Title: Re: Glastron / Carlson Steering Wheels
Post by: Hyperacme on March 24, 2019, 07:15:56 PM
1990
Same as 1985 /1986 / 1987 / 1988 / 1989.
Title: Re: Glastron / Carlson Steering Wheels
Post by: Hyperacme on March 24, 2019, 07:20:33 PM
1992
Went to this style ...
Title: Re: Glastron / Carlson Steering Wheels
Post by: Terry_Curran on March 25, 2019, 11:55:50 AM
Here’s one of my ‘86 SSV-191

EDIT ..
1986 SSV191 from brochure
Title: Re: Glastron / Carlson Steering Wheels
Post by: Hyperacme on June 06, 2019, 09:56:45 PM
A old square shaft wheel can be converted to a keyed/taper shaft wheel.
Some options .. Thanks Ray !

 There’s a few options: you could just use a different wheel entirely. Detmar made the later style wheels and made several hub styles, but they all relied on a 3 screw system to hold the spikes to the hub. Some hubs had interchangeable adapters. A little use of some plate and you can modify your old wheel to use the new style adapter. Lots of possibilities.

The adapter you posted (first picture) above is what I would do if I didn’t have all these parts. I’d place that inside of the old plastic hub, drill and tap where needed, and the only other mod you would have to do is make the G center cap removable. Adhesive backed strong magnets would be perfect.
Title: Re: Glastron / Carlson Steering Wheels
Post by: cv-19 on July 26, 2019, 11:32:41 AM

 Ride Guide rack cable installation info.
Title: Re: Glastron / Carlson Steering Wheels
Post by: cv-19 on July 30, 2019, 09:23:19 AM
 
  CV-19 original ride guide steering cable length. 17ft. 6 in.
  Cables are marked  close to cable end. Can use 18 ft. cable,
 but will have to loop it at the engine end.
Title: Re: Glastron / Carlson Steering Wheels
Post by: oskar-lima on June 23, 2020, 05:07:58 AM
Thank you, Gregg, for this fantastic overview of steering wheels  :D
This is the one I have in our '80 SSV-164.

Greetings from Germany,
Oliver
Title: Re: Glastron / Carlson Steering Wheels
Post by: Hyperacme on September 17, 2021, 07:04:30 PM
Wheel used on some 1979 and later boats ..
Title: Re: Glastron / Carlson Steering Wheels
Post by: Hyperacme on September 17, 2021, 07:06:10 PM
Used on 1976 , 1977, 1978 & 1979  small Glastron's and Glastron Bass boats
Title: Re: Glastron / Carlson Steering Wheels
Post by: Hyperacme on March 29, 2022, 07:05:52 PM
GRANT 3 bolt pattern wheel to any standard tapered/keyed helm ..

http://www.grantproducts.com/products/view/697/?fbclid=IwAR3sIH_zrqBeibfQwiLoZyqZbLKtfOOLMRtTd3_BANE0z4K3O7LVzKK_fYo
Title: Re: Glastron / Carlson Steering Wheels
Post by: Hyperacme on April 05, 2022, 05:31:43 PM
Steering Cable lengths  ..
Title: Re: Glastron / Carlson Steering Wheels
Post by: Hyperacme on August 02, 2022, 10:39:35 PM
1981 Metric series steering wheel from C500S  /  C512S models