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Re: '89 Glastron Carlson 23CSS Project and Repair
« Reply #140 on: February 11, 2019, 03:34:43 PM »
     Not sure knowing the depth while on plane would be of much use, everything I've ever hit happened so fast it wouldn't have helped.    Hopefully the front transducer will work when you are coming into the shore.  Maybe have your crew move forward?   Now maybe someone will develop a collision avoidance system that has the ability to look forward and to the side like a radar to look for danger?    The rear is handy IMHO to keep the drive out of the sand.  Looks like your making great progress, that really is a big job to tackle.
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Re: '89 Glastron Carlson 23CSS Project and Repair
« Reply #141 on: February 11, 2019, 03:39:31 PM »
Hah yes, really the helpful collision avoidance is your map or gps!
I’ll let you guys know if it works or not!!
Yes, it is a big project, bigger than what I anticipated when I started. But isn’t that how most projects go?


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Re: '89 Glastron Carlson 23CSS Project and Repair
« Reply #142 on: February 12, 2019, 11:22:10 AM »
     Not sure knowing the depth while on plane would be of much use, everything I've ever hit happened so fast it wouldn't have helped.    Hopefully the front transducer will work when you are coming into the shore.  Maybe have your crew move forward?   Now maybe someone will develop a collision avoidance system that has the ability to look forward and to the side like a radar to look for danger?    The rear is handy IMHO to keep the drive out of the sand.  Looks like your making great progress, that really is a big job to tackle.

This is available from almost any manufacture already.  They have both forward and side scanning on them. Most of them you have to have the transducer mounted thru the hull or on the transom so it is physically in the water. Try a google search it is amazing what is out there. A lot of new boats are now joy stick operated. Even the I/O's

Also something to think about. This is right from the Garmin web site.

Potential damage to a transducer when running out of the water

It is not recommended to run a FishFinder and transducer on a boat that is not in the water as you will not get any readings from the transducer.

A normal 500w or less transducer should not have any issues when running out of the water. A higher powered transducer, 1kw or larger, may have the potential of having issues as they normally use water to help cool them down when operating for long periods of time. Without the water, the transducer could burn out and have issues if left running for an extended period of time out of the water.

Last on my 43 ft boat I have a transducer mounted in about the middle of the boat about 15-20 ft in front of the props, at just above idle speed it was still not enough time to react when it suddenly read 2.5ft. The Ins claim was $15,000. All I am saying is if you are using it for avoidance go very slow. You also have to keep in mind how deep the transducer is set below water line at idle and depending on load in the front of the boat to give actual depth. Most systems you can set it to what ever depth you are at so it read accurately.

You're making good progress the 23's have a lot of wood though.
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Re: '89 Glastron Carlson 23CSS Project and Repair
« Reply #143 on: February 12, 2019, 11:50:41 AM »
Yea your right Shawn it is crazy the technology out there for marine mapping. It comes with a hefty price tag too!
Maybe I'll run a secondary switch for that depth finder so it isn't running all the time. That transducer was originally in the bilge.
Progress is good! Yes there is a lot of material in this big of a boat! A lot of fiberglass and resin, that's whats getting me.
Thinking 12-14 gallons by the end of it. Already 7 gallons in. That's a lot of weight on its own. Do you remember how much you used on your 23?
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« Reply #144 on: February 12, 2019, 01:07:52 PM »
If I remember correctly I think I used 4 1/2, 5 gallon buckets so about 22.5 gallons.
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« Reply #145 on: February 12, 2019, 01:11:10 PM »
Oh wow! I may still be way off then.
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Re: '89 Glastron Carlson 23CSS Project and Repair
« Reply #146 on: February 12, 2019, 03:47:31 PM »
Shawn ..
Wasn't some of the resin used for deck repair ?
"Oh WOW !"  is right !
Just be happy ya didn't take on a CV27 …  :o

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Re: '89 Glastron Carlson 23CSS Project and Repair
« Reply #147 on: February 12, 2019, 04:15:20 PM »
Yea really! Couldn’t imagine the work it would take to restore some of those big 40’ cigarette boats!


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Re: '89 Glastron Carlson 23CSS Project and Repair
« Reply #148 on: February 13, 2019, 09:40:02 AM »
Shawn ..
Wasn't some of the resin used for deck repair ?
"Oh WOW !"  is right !
Just be happy ya didn't take on a CV27 …  :o

Mine needed a lot of work. The only original wood in the entire boat is the 2 shelves in the cuddy and the board under the swim platform. Otherwise everything was replaced.
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Re: '89 Glastron Carlson 23CSS Project and Repair
« Reply #149 on: February 19, 2019, 07:24:13 AM »
Beauty weekend for snowmobiling over here in Ontario!
Was able to make time for the boat as well. Laid a layer of 1708 in the cuddy over the honeycomb, as well as adding some more support to the stingers and engine compartment. I should also be up to thickness now on the transom and I believe plenty strong everywhere else.
Also reused the old foam that was under the floor, I cut them out in blocks so I was able to reuse them with very little spaces to fill with new foam. Just need some more foam to top up the compartments.
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Re: '89 Glastron Carlson 23CSS Project and Repair
« Reply #150 on: March 04, 2019, 11:53:07 AM »
Got the conduit installed for the fuel line and various wires, painted the tank bay, and got the tank installed this weekend! Also glued and screwed in the aluminum supports
I washed out the inside of the tank as well, and sure glad I did because a lot of plastic shavings came out of it. Would have made a mess of the fuel filters.
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Re: '89 Glastron Carlson 23CSS Project and Repair
« Reply #151 on: March 04, 2019, 01:07:42 PM »
      Amazing level of progress, mine hull hasn't seen any work in a month.   Busy with engines, parts, and snow.    BTW, its colder here than in Ontario-go figure.
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Re: '89 Glastron Carlson 23CSS Project and Repair
« Reply #152 on: March 04, 2019, 01:20:42 PM »
Thanks! I'm only really getting time to work on it every other weekend, really hoping for it to be in the water this summer..

The weather here the last couple of weeks has been nuts, super cold, then warm, then lots of snow and high winds. All over the place!
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« Reply #153 on: March 26, 2019, 07:50:34 AM »
Picked up some 3/4" honeycomb last weekend, really nice stuff to work with, lightweight and easy to cut and fit.
I laminated the top and bottom of each sheet with 1708 and some csm. Cleaned up the edges and I'm ready now to glue it down and put a final layer on top. Exciting!!
I'll try to remember to weigh it this weekend to see the difference to plywood.
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Re: '89 Glastron Carlson 23CSS Project and Repair
« Reply #154 on: March 27, 2019, 11:15:14 AM »
On my CVX-16 project, the whole floor with aluminum plate seat mount reinforcements weighed in at 19.5 lbs. Im sure you  shaved off some weight with that much sq ft of floor.
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Re: '89 Glastron Carlson 23CSS Project and Repair
« Reply #155 on: April 01, 2019, 03:19:57 PM »
Threw the sheets on the scale this weekend, came out to be 55.2 lbs. According to google its half the weight of 3/4" plywood.
I still have another layer of cloth to go on top, but would be the same if I used plywood.

So I'm saving around 35-40 lbs by using the Nida Core because I would have used 5/8 ply. But this stuff wont rot and was really nice to work with! Space age technology I've heard some people say  ;)
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Re: '89 Glastron Carlson 23CSS Project and Repair
« Reply #156 on: April 15, 2019, 01:24:05 PM »
Top back inside! Just about ready to reinstall.
Also got the floor tabbed in and a second layer of glass on.
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« Reply #157 on: June 04, 2019, 08:06:26 AM »
Slow going on the boat lately, spring has finally sprung and so has all the other tasks.
Have been able to fasten the top back on, silicone and fiber glassed the inside. Gonna hate myself if I ever have to split the hull again! haha
I also fit the cuddy door and divider.
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Re: '89 Glastron Carlson 23CSS Project and Repair
« Reply #158 on: June 04, 2019, 09:16:50 AM »
Your making progress.  My Timi project has been ignored lately since it's now boating season, not working on boats season-ha.  Are you planning to complete this year?
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Re: '89 Glastron Carlson 23CSS Project and Repair
« Reply #159 on: June 04, 2019, 11:01:29 AM »
That's exactly it!
I am hoping to have it mostly done by August, enough anyways to go out in it. Can always do finishing touches over the winter!
But I'm not going to rush it if it doesn't make it. Still want it done right! 
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