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Offline ChfBrianB

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Re: V-166 maiden voyage
« Reply #20 on: August 04, 2010, 08:06:32 AM »


A tach is on my wish list... that engine was hummin' with the 17P at top speed, didn't keep it there long.  I don't know what it's turning.  I actually think the 19P would be better suited for it.


I have a laser RPM light for this purpose.  It's almost like a timing light that you would use for your ignition.  All you have to do is put a small piece of reflective tape (included in the kit) on the outer edge of your flywheel (with the engine cover off).  Then you point the laser at the reflective tape as the motor is running, and it will read out the rpm.  If you have two people in the boat, one can drive, and the other can point the laser at the reflective tape while you zip across the lake.  It's really easy!  I used mine to determine if my dash tach was reading right.  Found out it was about 10% off through the entire rpm band.

You can get these digital photo sensor tachometer at Harbor freight... http://www.harborfreight.com/digital-photo-sensor-tachometer-66632.html


Mine is a little cheaper than this one, but they all work about the same.  No need to spend a ton of money and mess up your dash if you don't want to!  Let me know if you have any questions!
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Re: V-166 maiden voyage
« Reply #21 on: August 04, 2010, 08:43:55 AM »
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Actually my wife, who is still the slalom skier in our family, does not enjoy crossing the wake behind our MasterCraft X1... it's too big, even at speed... strictly recreational skier.  There is hardly any wake behind the V-166


As an "old school" slalom skier myself I can understand that. I've thought about hooking a rope to the back of Hyperacme's boat. Just waiting for him to get a ski bar on it! ;D Those tri-hulls throw a nice flat wake, perfect for us slalom water skiers!

FWIW I suspect your steering cable is starting to bind. Common, although surprising considering how little use your boat has had. I had the same issue on the '83 CVX16 I used to own. With that boat the cable and helm/rack were one piece which required I replace everything. I would try disconnecting the cable at the motor. Then you can make sure the OB moves back and forth nice and free and check to see if the steeering wheel is still hard to turn.
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Re: V-166 maiden voyage
« Reply #22 on: August 04, 2010, 02:51:06 PM »
Mark
With my 17P prop, I could get over 6000 rpm's !
Take it easy ...

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Re: V-166 maiden voyage
« Reply #23 on: August 04, 2010, 05:20:37 PM »
I would try disconnecting the cable at the motor. Then you can make sure the OB moves back and forth nice and free and check to see if the steeering wheel is still hard to turn.

Good idea cvx! First law of troubleshooting: Isolate the problem. Before you start throwing parts at it hopin' somethin'll stick ...

My bimini is 'Brass' Sunbrella Mark. Up close it has a somewhat metallic look. Light gold with a few silvery threads running through it. I'll try to remember to brink a chunk of it home & post a scan. Purty cool color actually. Might go really good with a gold metalflake boat?

Ya I'll bet yer winding that motor up purty tight with a 17 alum prop. Repeat after me: I will buy a tachometer, I will buy a tachometer, ...  Heh heh heh. Hey if'n you don't want to drill a hole getcha one of those lil digital 'tiny tachs' sold for SeaDoos, etc. Stick it on with some velcro. Bleve they're reasonably cheap?

Good luck with the steering "issue". SeeYa! 



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Re: V-166 maiden voyage
« Reply #24 on: August 04, 2010, 10:37:08 PM »
Wow, ok Gregg, 6000rpms is not good, I think max for this engine is 5500.  This was the set up from the dealer?  Didn't think they would do that.  

I passed Harborfreight today but didn't stop... I will get a tach, I will get a tach... hehehe.   Ya, I don't want to do something stupid and kill that engine.  I think I'm going to get one of the digital toys instead of installing a tach... original dash speedo looks too cool.  Thanks for the tip Brian.  I'm happy with it... not breaking any speed records, but then again, I don't need to with this rig.  It's got a story, it's got a history, I just don't want Gregg to leave me in his wake when I bring this thing up to an annual meet one of these days!    ;D

Doug, that color sounds really neat... would like to see it if you get a chance.

Sandy and I were thinking of naming the boat "Gunkel" after the original owners... Ella and Earl Gunkel.  Not that it will be painted on the boat or anything.  Anyone want to throw their 2cents in?  I'm up for any better ideas.

I spent this evening touching up the paint on the trailer.  It had a decent amount of surface rust on it, even with sitting in the garage all these years.  I should get the hub caps back from being re-chromed by Friday.

Steering still in front of me. 
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Re: V-166 maiden voyage
« Reply #25 on: August 05, 2010, 08:11:20 AM »
Mark, thanks for posting the steering diagrams and info... very informative!!!  Should be the same or very similar.
Mark
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Re: V-166 maiden voyage
« Reply #26 on: August 05, 2010, 04:17:09 PM »
Design Technology?s TINY-TACH
http://www.tinytach.com/tinytach/index.php

I emailed them about a Tiny Tach for my Merc and they sent me a very informative reply with every thing I needed to know, and a contact if I had more questions.

My helm is not like MarkS's ...
See picture below ...
My steering wheel was in rough shape, so I got one from a local boat dealer.
It fit right on the old helm.

My motors rpm range is 5000 to 6000 rpms so I was over reving by about 100 rpm's with the 17P prop, the 19P has rpm's at about 5400 rpm's.
My motor is 60 HP rated at the prop, which started about 1985, your is 60 HP rated at powerhead. With out looking your boat has to be at least 100 lbs more then mine so I should be faster then yours.

IMHO & Info ...

I would and did cut a hole in my dash for a tach ...
Not saying you should ... Just that I did ...

On the G3 site theres a guy that took a Yamaha tilt & trim and put it on an older Johnson/Evenrude ...
http://forums.fiberglassics.com/g3/showmessage.asp?fm=Forum&messageID=23307
http://forums.fiberglassics.com/g3/showmessage.asp?fm=Forum&messageID=23308
http://forums.fiberglassics.com/g3/showmessage.asp?fm=Forum&messageID=23309
http://forums.fiberglassics.com/g3/showmessage.asp?fm=Forum&messageID=23310
http://forums.fiberglassics.com/g3/showmessage.asp?fm=Forum&messageID=23311
http://forums.fiberglassics.com/g3/showmessage.asp?fm=Forum&messageID=23312
http://forums.fiberglassics.com/g3/showmessage.asp?fm=Forum&messageID=23313
http://forums.fiberglassics.com/g3/showmessage.asp?fm=Forum&messageID=23314

Another guy on same site took a Yamaha 90 HP motor and painted it to look like a mid 70's Johnson Stinger !
Again not saying you should ... just info ...





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Re: V-166 maiden voyage
« Reply #27 on: August 05, 2010, 07:42:19 PM »
re Boat name. Gunkel's okay I s'pose but "Gunkella" would be more appropriate. Imo ...

Here's an option: "Gunkearlella". Cover all the bases that way ...
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Re: V-166 maiden voyage
« Reply #28 on: August 05, 2010, 09:02:25 PM »
Gregg wrote:
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My helm is not like MarkS's ...
See picture below ...
I understand that the selling dealer normally rigged the motor and controls, did they also install the steering?  I guess they used whatever they had in stock in the parts department then.  The dealer mine originally came from was right here in Atlanta, but has been out of business for quite some time.  They were both Merc and OMC dealers, which I guess is why my OMC powered Glastron has a RideGuide steering system.?!  I get so confused............. ::)
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Re: V-166 maiden voyage
« Reply #29 on: August 06, 2010, 07:39:27 AM »
MarkS ...
The dealer my boat came from is still in busness but dosn't sell Glastrons any more.
You can still get rotary or rack helms that look pretty close to ours, but not sure if old parts interchange with new parts.
Was told by a dealer that Merc's & Johnson/Evinrude's had tilt tube steering on there motors but Chysler's did not so that is why they used the transom mounted steering on some boats. Good question about who installed steering, Glastron or dealer ?
Hotwire might know, or Joe Poole ...

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Re: V-166 maiden voyage
« Reply #30 on: August 06, 2010, 04:28:40 PM »
Here's what I found under my origional Glastron sticker: What the ...?! I had always assumed it was a Teleflex rack. Looks an awful lot like one? I'm confused too.
'81 C500_given away, bought back_75.1 mph
'81 Baja 15SS_140 Frankenrude_66.7 mph
'70 something SpeedCraft_(Allison 16R Clone)_69.0 mph
'79 CVZ19_given away
'71 V153_54.8 mph_wrecked


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Re: V-166 maiden voyage
« Reply #31 on: August 06, 2010, 04:30:46 PM »
Old Glastron sticker:
'81 C500_given away, bought back_75.1 mph
'81 Baja 15SS_140 Frankenrude_66.7 mph
'70 something SpeedCraft_(Allison 16R Clone)_69.0 mph
'79 CVZ19_given away
'71 V153_54.8 mph_wrecked


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Re: V-166 maiden voyage
« Reply #32 on: August 06, 2010, 04:33:52 PM »
New sticker: Please pardon my nasty unfinished interior. Oops! Looks like I forgot to empty the 'ashtray' again ...
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'81 Baja 15SS_140 Frankenrude_66.7 mph
'70 something SpeedCraft_(Allison 16R Clone)_69.0 mph
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'71 V153_54.8 mph_wrecked


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Re: V-166 maiden voyage
« Reply #33 on: August 07, 2010, 04:07:19 AM »
Where you get the sticker?

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Re: V-166 maiden voyage
« Reply #34 on: August 07, 2010, 07:33:15 AM »
Haven't read the thread in a while but he use to have some.

http://www.classicglastron.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2256



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Re: V-166 maiden voyage
« Reply #35 on: August 07, 2010, 08:49:34 AM »
That's a sweetheart of a boat. Looks great w/top and love the Glastron logo on it.

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Plenty of pull for skiing...

You a own a MasterCraft and your skiing behind that...LOL

That IS funny! True Glastron love.

Grease fitting....if you dont have one, they sell them that screw on to the end of the tilt tube but you have to pull the steering cable to install it. I out one on my old 85 Merc but when I switched to the newer 100 HP I have now, it had one so I actually have that nut laying around. Had I not recently bought another boat that I'll be adding an older motor to, I'd just give it to you if we thought it fit.
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