Author Topic: Fiberglass (Read 18087 times)

thedeuceman · « **Reply #40 on:** October 16, 2012, 03:45:32 PM »

I just used elmers on mine ;-)

Jerry · « **Reply #41 on:** October 16, 2012, 04:40:56 PM »

Oak and other hardwoods should really use Epoxy because Poly doesn't stick real well to oily woods, but you should never use Epoxy on a fiberglass boat. Vinyl-Ester has the properties of epoxy and the same solids. Resins and Gel-coats are all about chemistry. The biggest problem is the people that sell this stuff don't really know what they're selling. Poly won't stick to Epoxy, and gel-coat is poly, I think Vinyl sticks to everything. Instead of following what the manufacturer did, people want to "Improve" things and only make them worse. I don't care what you do to your boat, just don't use interior grade plywood, it's glued together with a water based glue, or PT because it warps, and poly won't stick to it, and always use Polyester, or Vinyl-Ester (or a mix) resin.

carlsoncvx18 · « **Reply #42 on:** October 16, 2012, 06:53:06 PM »

Gregg

Just part it out, and buy one of those new Glastron Reto boats bet they have no wood in them.

dorelse · « **Reply #43 on:** October 16, 2012, 06:56:24 PM »

Quote from: carlsoncvx18 on October 16, 2012, 06:53:06 PM

Gregg

Just part it out, and buy one of those new Glastron Reto boats bet they have no wood in them.

Would save a lot of 'vigorous' discussions wouldn't it!?!?

Jerry · « **Reply #44 on:** October 16, 2012, 07:05:36 PM »

I hate "Cookie Cutters"

Hyperacme · « **Reply #45 on:** October 16, 2012, 07:29:28 PM »

I would be "Money A Head" if I just grabed this one ...

http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/dak/boa/3296705757.html

carlsoncvx18 · « **Reply #46 on:** October 16, 2012, 08:01:45 PM »

Or you could buy one of the V TEC then there would be no wood or fiberglass just plastic.

Hyperacme · « **Reply #47 on:** October 16, 2012, 08:10:36 PM »

OK ...
YA I like this one ...

http://www.glastron.com/content/models/overview/GS259

carlsoncvx18 · « **Reply #48 on:** October 16, 2012, 08:29:13 PM »

What does the outboard version look like? LOL

Hyperacme · « **Reply #49 on:** October 16, 2012, 09:01:22 PM »

... LOL

WetRaider · « **Reply #50 on:** October 17, 2012, 09:01:19 AM »

I still like Glastron's new boats. Have for years.

kert0307 · « **Reply #51 on:** October 17, 2012, 10:42:36 AM »

Were the 1990's era CSS series like the CSS19 and larger all fiberglass/composite, or do they still have "wood cores?"

CVX Fever · « **Reply #52 on:** October 17, 2012, 12:09:28 PM »

Glastron didn't go wood free until they started molding the hulls with the VEC technology AFAIK. Even then the deck was still laid up the with traditional methods and used wood. When Genmar sold Glastron and Larson they kept the VEC technology. Not sure if the new Glastrons are built "wood free" or not.

wiliermdb · « **Reply #53 on:** October 18, 2012, 07:48:08 AM »

It's a shame they all haven't gone wood free. My brother picked up that 1988 MasterCraft with the 200 Merc. That entire boat is wood free all the way back for 1988. Seat frames and all. Only wood is the teak on the platforms and step areas.

Hyperacme · « **Reply #54 on:** October 20, 2012, 09:04:53 AM »

Been doin' some reading on Polyester vs Vinylester vs Epoxy ...
Lottsa facts, figures, tests and opinions online ...
Maybe true ... Maybe not ...

Will leave it at that ....

Hyperacme · « **Reply #55 on:** October 20, 2012, 09:33:27 AM »

Could I use any of this glass .. Is it better just to get it from Express and to know it's the good stuff ...

Two Pieces of Fiberglass Matt 9-ft long by 37" Wide, and 39" x 36" - $10 (Chaska
http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/hnp/boa/3351500941.html

6-oz. Fiberglass Cloth, 50" x 6-yards Long (18-ft.) - $20 (Chaska
http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/hnp/boa/3351513237.html

4-oz. Fiberglass Cloth, 50" x 15+ Yards Long (approx. 46 ft.) - $45 (Chaska
http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/hnp/boa/3351513858.html

Jerry · « **Reply #56 on:** October 20, 2012, 10:56:19 AM »

You could use it. I don't think there's such a thing as "bad glass", but it will be hard to work with. Mat really moves around. If it was free you could lay the mat out and staple the cloth over it then wet it down. The advantage of working with Roving with Mat, or Bi-ax with Mat, is it is so easy to work with, and at Express you can get only what you need.

Hyperacme · « **Reply #57 on:** October 20, 2012, 11:04:54 AM »

I still have some roving left over from a floor I did about 10 years ago.
I'll need some glass for small things like where deck is glassed to hull at some points, front deck supports will have to be cut then reattached, etc, etc ..

75starflight · « **Reply #58 on:** October 20, 2012, 11:05:16 AM »

I will agree with you there Jerry, mat by it self is a pain to work with! Always moves around and harder than heck to keep the air bubbles out!

Hyperacme · « **Reply #59 on:** October 20, 2012, 09:22:57 PM »

Steve
You were right ... Deck is glassed to hull all the way around,(from dash back) ... I just looked under the deck ...
From some ones CV rebuild thread, theres a "resin plate" between transom wood and outer fiberglass/gel coat.
Mine also has it ...
Would I need to grind "resin plate" out/off (remove resin) to fit new transom ?

Transom was flexing, stress cracks in gel behind side panel on right side
Water creaped down bottom of transom and bottom was wet and soft.