Author Topic: Goldie Not Starting (I wonder....) (Read 19214 times)

CVX Fever · « **Reply #20 on:** August 22, 2013, 03:43:58 PM »

WOW! I was gonna say that plug looks like it came out of a 2S motor. Looks like Branden was right!

dorelse · « **Reply #21 on:** August 22, 2013, 03:49:55 PM »

Quote from: WetRaider on August 22, 2013, 03:40:27 PM

That's crazy.
I keep a set of spares with me, just in case. Always did with my 2 cycle motorcycles, too.
But you aren't 2 cycle ... Glad to hear it's up and running. Going out one last time before putting to bed?

Yeah, probably...gotta make sure this is the real fix, or if I have something fouling the plugs. However, I don't trust the trailer for more than a trip up to Saylorville.

Credit where credit is due, Terry suggested the Ignition Control Module, which was bad...and we were talking about plugs next...but yes, thanks to Brandon for chiming in on his experience with NGK's (and knowing they were already the wrong plugs), got me to get them swapped out before trying anything else.

Thanks Terry, Brandon and all those who helped at Red Wing. For $20, I'll have another complete set with me all the time now.

Jason · « **Reply #22 on:** August 22, 2013, 05:38:39 PM »

Could be running rich if they are all like that. Ever had your carb gone through?

Rich_V174SS · « **Reply #23 on:** August 22, 2013, 05:48:24 PM »

From the looks of those plugs I'd say it's either running rich or the carb is dumping in fuel due to a bad inlet needle or float height.

dorelse · « **Reply #24 on:** August 22, 2013, 06:14:54 PM »

Quote from: 74GlasCarlSS on August 22, 2013, 05:38:39 PM

Could be running rich if they are all like that. Ever had your carb gone through?

Carb was rebuilt 2 years ago...

dorelse · « **Reply #25 on:** August 22, 2013, 06:22:20 PM »

Quote from: Rich_V174SS on August 22, 2013, 05:48:24 PM

From the looks of those plugs I'd say it's either running rich or the carb is dumping in fuel due to a bad inlet needle or float height.

Ok, I'll need to figure out if the carb float height is correct.

I don't know if this means the inlet needle is ok or not, but, when we had Jason's electric fuel pump hooked up, we could hear it fill up, then stop. I assumed that meant that it wasn't just dumping fuel down the motor...but wouldn't tell me if the float is too high.

Rosscoe · « **Reply #26 on:** August 22, 2013, 06:59:23 PM »

How old are those?

dorelse · « **Reply #27 on:** August 22, 2013, 07:10:07 PM »

Quote from: Rosscoe on August 22, 2013, 06:59:23 PM

How old are those?

Plugs? About 3 seasons...maybe 80 hours on the engine total...

Rosscoe · « **Reply #28 on:** August 22, 2013, 07:14:34 PM »

I don't think I've ever heard anything bad about NGK's

Jason · « **Reply #29 on:** August 22, 2013, 08:42:57 PM »

Quote from: Rosscoe on August 22, 2013, 07:14:34 PM

I don't think I've ever heard anything bad about NGK's

Me either. I run them in just about everything.

75starflight · « **Reply #30 on:** August 22, 2013, 08:47:31 PM »

Honestly I hadn't either until I found that article. I wish I could remember where I had found that! It had some good information in it about plug use in inboards and outboards.

fireman24mn · « **Reply #31 on:** August 23, 2013, 11:23:33 AM »

I remember talking and before you came to Redwing you only ran it on the hose in the drive and at Idle for an hour or so If I remember correct. That is probably one reason that the plugs are so black. I would go run it and see what they look like after. No point chasing carb issue if you dont know it's the problem.

Couple boats ago had a carb rebuilt and thought while that was being done I would do plugs and wires. Store on had champion plugs (i hate Champion) but wanted to get on the water. Put it back together and would not run tried everything carb went threw again, timing, firing order, points & condenser, finally pulled new plugs out and put old in and started right up no problem. Stupid Champion!

CVZ18Fan · « **Reply #32 on:** August 23, 2013, 11:50:50 AM »

If anyone has an SBC aluminum dual plane intake laying in the corner gathering dust and would like to donate it to Doran (been hunting for him but no luck so far), I'll pay the shipping to his door. I am giving him the 4bbl quadrajet off the original motor in my CVZ. That will wake Goldie up a bit!

Rich

thedeuceman · « **Reply #33 on:** August 23, 2013, 01:44:16 PM »

I would think a guy could almost spit and hit a SBC intake

dorelse · « **Reply #34 on:** August 23, 2013, 01:51:03 PM »

I'm honestly not looking to make any modifications to the boat. I just got it back running!

Plus, I have no idea how to even replace that stuff. I've talked about adding it to make it a 228 vs. 198 motor, but I'm a little gun shy on that upgrade after Red Wing.

I like that the 2 barrel uses less gas, albeit a little less gas, but also, its plenty fast for me.

Terry_Curran · « **Reply #35 on:** August 23, 2013, 06:33:54 PM »

They claim that a q-jet gets better mileage than a 2bbl because the primary barrels on the q-jet are smaller. Now once you open up the 4bbls, it's a totally different story

Terry

dorelse · « **Reply #36 on:** August 23, 2013, 06:45:29 PM »

Quote from: SSV-191 on August 23, 2013, 06:33:54 PM

They claim that a q-jet gets better mileage than a 2bbl because the primary barrels on the q-jet are smaller. Now once you open up the 4bbls, it's a totally different story

Terry

You typing 1 handed?

dorelse · « **Reply #37 on:** August 23, 2013, 06:46:51 PM »

And...that makes sense. More power, better mileage? Ok, twist my arm why don't ya.

Terry_Curran · « **Reply #38 on:** August 23, 2013, 07:05:07 PM »

Yes Doran, and it stinks

Terry

Rosscoe · « **Reply #39 on:** August 23, 2013, 08:08:58 PM »

I musta missed something?