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Offline Terry_Curran

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Re: Goldie Not Starting (I wonder....)
« Reply #40 on: August 23, 2013, 08:20:17 PM »
I injured some of my fingers on my left hand today.

Offline Hyperacme

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Re: Goldie Not Starting (I wonder....)
« Reply #41 on: August 23, 2013, 08:26:48 PM »
Are you OK Terry ?
Is it bad ?

Offline Terry_Curran

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Re: Goldie Not Starting (I wonder....)
« Reply #42 on: August 23, 2013, 08:39:15 PM »
I got into a fight with a 2x4 and a table saw and lost  the board hit my hand , broke middle and ring fingers, tore half my pinky finger nail off, dr removed rest to place stitches, and about 30 stitches in my 2 broken fingers. Other than that, doing great thank you!

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Re: Goldie Not Starting (I wonder....)
« Reply #43 on: August 23, 2013, 08:40:58 PM »
Sorry to hear that Terry, Hope everything heals ok.
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Re: Goldie Not Starting (I wonder....)
« Reply #44 on: August 23, 2013, 08:58:11 PM »
OH MAN !
OUCH !
That sounds bad ...
Hoping for a fast recovery buddy ...

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Re: Goldie Not Starting (I wonder....)
« Reply #45 on: August 23, 2013, 09:04:54 PM »
Whoah!
Glad nothing worse happened to you.  Oh man.
Thoughts of a speedy recovery from Courtney and I to you.
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Re: Goldie Not Starting (I wonder....)
« Reply #46 on: August 23, 2013, 09:06:23 PM »
Thanks everyone!  Sorry for high jacking your thread Doran

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Re: Goldie Not Starting (I wonder....)
« Reply #47 on: August 24, 2013, 08:51:41 PM »
Still fouling plugs...these have about 20-30 mins of idle & a bit higher run time on them.  They're not wet this time, but I wouldn't have expected them to foul so quickly.

I found my carb problem, that is now fixed.

I did validate that when the motor is running & warm, the choke plate is vertical, so I don't think that's an issue.  What's next?  Take it out and run the crap out of it on fresh plugs and see if they're still fouled?
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Offline wexrocks

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Re: Goldie Not Starting (I wonder....)
« Reply #48 on: August 24, 2013, 09:07:15 PM »
What do you mean when you say the carb problem was found and fixed?
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Re: Goldie Not Starting (I wonder....)
« Reply #49 on: August 24, 2013, 09:15:11 PM »
What do you mean when you say the carb problem was found and fixed?

What I found was that I was not getting enough fuel in the bowl.  I never had any fuel in the accelerator pump.  The reason for that was that the float wasn't set properly.  I adjusted it.

I do not see any fuel overflowing down the carb through the overflow tube (not sure what its called for sure), so I'm pretty sure I don't have too much fuel in the bowl either.
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Offline Rich_V174SS

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Re: Goldie Not Starting (I wonder....)
« Reply #50 on: August 24, 2013, 09:37:42 PM »
If the float level was too high you would see fuel dripping into the venturi throats from the nozzles while the engine was running at idle.
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Offline dorelse

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Re: Goldie Not Starting (I wonder....)
« Reply #51 on: August 24, 2013, 09:59:12 PM »
If the float level was too high you would see fuel dripping into the venturi throats from the nozzles while the engine was running at idle.

Right, I don't have any fuel dripping down the throats.  If my son gives it a quick shot, the accelerator pump shoots fuel as expected.  I'm going to check the idle mixture screws tomorrow.

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Re: Goldie Not Starting (I wonder....)
« Reply #52 on: August 25, 2013, 11:38:05 AM »
I got into a fight with a 2x4 and a table saw and lost  the board hit my hand , broke middle and ring fingers, tore half my pinky finger nail off, dr removed rest to place stitches, and about 30 stitches in my 2 broken fingers. Other than that, doing great thank you!

Terry
Did the 2x4 kick back at you? Lucky you didnt saw any digits off.

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Re: Goldie Not Starting (I wonder....)
« Reply #53 on: August 25, 2013, 11:42:30 AM »
Sure doesn't seem like a lack of fuel if plugs are still fouling. When you say "fouling" do you mean they look black already or are there some that are "miss firing" or not firing at all?
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Offline dorelse

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Re: Goldie Not Starting (I wonder....)
« Reply #54 on: August 25, 2013, 11:46:07 AM »
Sure doesn't seem like a lack of fuel if plugs are still fouling. When you say "fouling" do you mean they look black already or are there some that are "miss firing" or not firing at all?

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Re: Goldie Not Starting (I wonder....)
« Reply #55 on: August 25, 2013, 11:48:51 AM »
Sounds rich to me.
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Re: Goldie Not Starting (I wonder....)
« Reply #56 on: August 25, 2013, 02:54:05 PM »
Yes Ross, the board kicked back at me.  I'll take the lessor of the 2 evils

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Re: Goldie Not Starting (I wonder....)
« Reply #57 on: August 25, 2013, 07:28:18 PM »
Ok, more progress, I think.  Before, I could 'goose' the throttle, and I would see black crap come out of the exhaust.  Now, it wasn't ever anything I was concerned about, but I always thought it was weird.

Anyway, I discovered that the idle mixture screws were 3 1/2 turns out, and thought that might be the cause of my rich condition.  Re-seated them and went 1 1/2 turns out.  Played a little bit with them, but 1 1/2 turns really seems to be the right spot.  No hesitation at all, no black streak when I hit the throttle.  Boat starts great, seems to run great as well.

I need to get it on the water and see where its at when under load, but hopefully, that has fixed the plug fouling issue.
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Re: Goldie Not Starting (I wonder....)
« Reply #58 on: August 25, 2013, 07:43:38 PM »
Finger's crossed for ya !

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Wasn't meant as a cheap shot at ya Terry ...

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Re: Goldie Not Starting (I wonder....)
« Reply #59 on: August 25, 2013, 07:46:57 PM »
Lol
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