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Offline RolandRock

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Home made 40-55 Johnson hydraulic tilt
« on: January 19, 2016, 03:49:28 PM »
Hey guys , I got tired of replacing the cable on my 'manual assist' cylinder and then struggling with that dang engine anyway.So I got busy and made my own hydraulic tilt system. Here's the tube link. Let me know what you think of my solution.

Johnson 50 hp homemade hydraulic tilt
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Re: Home made 40-55 Johnson hydraulic tilt
« Reply #1 on: January 19, 2016, 04:03:41 PM »
Tweaked your post a bit so it would show the video in the thread.

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Re: Home made 40-55 Johnson hydraulic tilt
« Reply #2 on: January 19, 2016, 04:34:46 PM »
Nice !
If you / I / they had a Merc T & T pump / valve for I/O or outboard laying around would that work for the pump/valve ?

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Re: Home made 40-55 Johnson hydraulic tilt
« Reply #3 on: January 19, 2016, 04:52:13 PM »
It would probably work better as the bennet pump seems to be just a little under powered.

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Re: Home made 40-55 Johnson hydraulic tilt
« Reply #4 on: January 19, 2016, 05:31:30 PM »
I think Joe modified one (Merc) to run the Hyd. on his Johnson T & T cyls.

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Re: Home made 40-55 Johnson hydraulic tilt
« Reply #5 on: January 19, 2016, 09:23:11 PM »
Nice! Looks pretty heavy duty. Those hoses should pretty much last forever!
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Re: Home made 40-55 Johnson hydraulic tilt
« Reply #6 on: January 20, 2016, 08:53:32 AM »
NICE WORK !
i connected a mercruiser pump to an OMC external trim system, it works great.
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Re: Home made 40-55 Johnson hydraulic tilt
« Reply #7 on: January 21, 2016, 01:40:29 PM »
Hi RolandRock, I enjoyed your video very much and would like to get some more info. on it. I have a 1971 50HP OB on my boat. It does not have the "manual assist cylinder" on it. Do you think that your system would work with my motor? If so, I would be interested in it.

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Re: Home made 40-55 Johnson hydraulic tilt
« Reply #8 on: January 22, 2016, 07:57:39 AM »
I am not familiar with the transom bracket and yolk setup on the older engines. I can tell you that the hardest 2 problems with setting up my system were:
 1.- Finding a hydraulic cylinder in the 2"-3" range with at least 4" of travel that had a closed length of 9"- 11". for under $100.
 2.- Removing the upper pin for the cylinder piston mount. These are steel pins driven into an aluminum housing and are prone to
      galvanic corrosion .
I think the most straight forward solution is to find a hydraulic jack plate for under $500.
 
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Re: Home made 40-55 Johnson hydraulic tilt
« Reply #9 on: January 22, 2016, 12:16:37 PM »
Hi RolandRock, Thanks for the come back. Where did you find your parts? Also, could I get a drawing on how to set it up? Hoss

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Re: Home made 40-55 Johnson hydraulic tilt
« Reply #10 on: January 23, 2016, 04:33:34 PM »
I went with a welded piston from Surplus Center (1.5x4x.75 DA piston) with 3/4"cross tubes. Since the pins on the engine were 5/8" and 1/2" , I ordered some Oillite brass bushings in 3/4" x 5/8" and 3/4" x 1/2" that matched the width of the cross tubes. The hydraulic fittings Were also available at the same place. The top fitting which worked out well was a 3/8"NPT x 1/4"NPT streeter ell. The bottom was immediately reduced to 1/8"NPT with a streeter ell from there to achieve clearance away from the yolk. All the hydraulic lines were 1/4" NPT fittings.

NOTE: I think a 2"x4" x1" cylinder was available with side facing fittings for more money. And if you can find 1/8" hoses that will be more than big enough to provide adequate fluid xfer to the cylinder. The small bennet tab pump I used would have been fine if a slightly larger diameter cylinder was available. The trim up only works at no-wake speed. I think a 2-1/2" cylinder with 4" travel and side fittings would have worked better in this application. Also be aware that you only have 1-3/8" width for the top cylinder mount. The top tube on my cylinder was 3/4" ID x 1-1/4" and fit perfect, a larger tube ID i.e 1" may fit with some grinding you have to check these clearances out thoroughly.

Finding the correct equipment for this application takes a lot of time and patience as no one seems to have the ideal set up available for a reasonable price.  Good luck ... PM me if you need a copy of that schematic that is in the video.
 
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Re: Home made 40-55 Johnson hydraulic tilt
« Reply #11 on: January 25, 2016, 06:53:08 PM »
Here is a block diagram of the trim wiring. The relays activated by the trim switch are DPDT so the solenoid valve and the appropriate pump motor direction wires can be activated simultaneously. 
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Re: Home made 40-55 Johnson hydraulic tilt
« Reply #12 on: January 29, 2016, 11:05:30 AM »
RolandRock, Thanks for the come back. Hoss