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Offline V153

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Re: Tach issues
« Reply #40 on: June 16, 2015, 09:33:11 PM »
That's cool as long as I don't smoke the rectifier! (if it isn't already toasted)
Sounds like yers is workin. Long's it's 13v or so at idle you're good. As rpm's increase it should climb a lil, but not a whole lot.
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Re: Tach issues
« Reply #41 on: June 17, 2015, 08:44:05 AM »
So it appears I can rule out the rectifier.
Guess I'll order a new tach.
Ross
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Re: Tach issues
« Reply #42 on: June 17, 2015, 09:05:36 AM »
if you want i can look ans see if i got something tonight
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Re: Tach issues
« Reply #43 on: June 17, 2015, 09:12:48 AM »
if you want i can look ans see if i got something tonight

That would be great...or if I can figure how to connect the one I have. I might mess with it today or go work. Depends on the weather.
Thanks Joe
Ross
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67 V163 Bayflite Super Sport  1989 100HP Merc
67 V164 Bayflite 120HP
67 V174 Crestflite Rat Rod
71 V175 Crestflite 350ci -Jet
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Re: Tach issues
« Reply #44 on: June 17, 2015, 05:20:50 PM »
Yo Ross. Might be worth asking over on the antique outboard forum about correct wiring for that tach?
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Re: Tach issues
« Reply #45 on: June 17, 2015, 06:50:14 PM »
I haven't been on many other forums.
In any case, I think this one may be bad too. I connected the obvious ones (gray, black) and connected 12v to one of the open terminals and started the motor. Tach went to 3k so I thought I would try the other one and it read the same thing. I noticed after I shut the motor off it was still sitting at 3k. Banged on it some and it went to 4k. Its stuck up in that area.
I also verified once again that the battery is charging. Went up into the 14v range when revved. I removed my old tach and banged on that and couldn't get the needle to move at all. May be it didnt like the winter I left it outside, or it didn't like my humid barn. Hope that trend does not continue because if that is the case, I've got the whole herd in the barn possibly doing more harm than good?
I'm ordering a new tach. This one was installed when the guy I bought the motor from rigged the boat. Its about 10-11 years old. Faria brand.
Ross
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67 V163 Bayflite Super Sport  1989 100HP Merc
67 V164 Bayflite 120HP
67 V174 Crestflite Rat Rod
71 V175 Crestflite 350ci -Jet
73 GT 160
84 CVX 17  83 115 Merc
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Re: Tach issues
« Reply #46 on: June 17, 2015, 07:08:22 PM »
Not sure about Mercs, but on a OMC when you key the ignition "on". The tach should zero.
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Re: Tach issues
« Reply #47 on: June 17, 2015, 07:11:31 PM »
Yeah that sounds like what I have been reading. It was at zero before I turned the key on. It went to 3k, stayed there, key on or off.
I was hoping to use this one in the 61 with the Evinrude, but that's a ways off. I'll hang on to it just in case.
Ross
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67 V163 Bayflite Super Sport  1989 100HP Merc
67 V164 Bayflite 120HP
67 V174 Crestflite Rat Rod
71 V175 Crestflite 350ci -Jet
73 GT 160
84 CVX 17  83 115 Merc
88 CVX-23 350 Mag

Offline Rich_V174SS

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Re: Tach issues
« Reply #48 on: June 17, 2015, 07:54:43 PM »
If the tach has an adjustment screw on the back for setting the number of poles or cylinders sometimes the contacts inside get mucked up. I take a screw driver and rotate the screw back and forth quickly a number of times to improve the contact, then set it to the required position.
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Re: Tach issues
« Reply #49 on: June 17, 2015, 07:57:46 PM »
Argh
2 seconds late. I just ordered one. Oh well, I'd still like to know if the old one is good and will try that. I have enough boats, I am sure I can use it. Speaking of that, since I never had any instructions, how does one determine that setting? Number of poles?
Ross
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67 V163 Bayflite Super Sport  1989 100HP Merc
67 V164 Bayflite 120HP
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73 GT 160
84 CVX 17  83 115 Merc
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Re: Tach issues
« Reply #50 on: June 17, 2015, 08:12:08 PM »
I bleve the "P" stands for 'pulses'. Not 'poles'.

12 pole = 6 pulses.
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Re: Tach issues
« Reply #51 on: June 17, 2015, 08:39:46 PM »
So my current tach is set at 5. Not sure of the correlation there with a 4 cylinder.
Ross
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67 V163 Bayflite Super Sport  1989 100HP Merc
67 V164 Bayflite 120HP
67 V174 Crestflite Rat Rod
71 V175 Crestflite 350ci -Jet
73 GT 160
84 CVX 17  83 115 Merc
88 CVX-23 350 Mag

Offline Rich_V174SS

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Re: Tach issues
« Reply #52 on: June 17, 2015, 08:50:42 PM »
If the tach is used with an I/O engine you'd set it to corresponding cylinders like 4, 6, or 8. When used with an outboard it's usually 12 pole alternator.
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Re: Tach issues
« Reply #53 on: June 17, 2015, 09:23:35 PM »
So my current tach is set at 5.
Should be set at 6. There's no correlation to number of cylinders.
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Re: Tach issues
« Reply #54 on: June 17, 2015, 09:28:47 PM »
Some tachs have numbered settings like 1 thru 4 or 5 and a small tag indicating what each number corresponds to. As an example (but not necessarily an accurate depiction) 1=4 cyl, 2=6 cyl, 3=8 cyl, 4=10 pole alt, 5=12 pole alt.
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Re: Tach issues
« Reply #55 on: June 17, 2015, 09:51:51 PM »
Some tachs have numbered settings like 1 thru 4 or 5 and a small tag indicating what each number corresponds to. As an example (but not necessarily an accurate depiction) 1=4 cyl, 2=6 cyl, 3=8 cyl, 4=10 pole alt, 5=12 pole alt.

I remember the old Force's had a 20 Pole Tach...which is hard to find!

And, yes, that's totally unrelated to your issue Ross...sorry!  lol!
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Re: Tach issues
« Reply #56 on: June 18, 2015, 06:19:38 AM »
Some tachs have numbered settings like 1 thru 4 or 5 and a small tag indicating what each number corresponds to. As an example (but not necessarily an accurate depiction) 1=4 cyl, 2=6 cyl, 3=8 cyl, 4=10 pole alt, 5=12 pole alt.

That is pretty much what the table on the back of the tach looks like so if its a 12 pole alt, 5 is correct. I wouldn't think it could have moved on its own. You have to use a small screw driver and push it in so I believe it is in the same spot it was all these years
5-12
I am going to mess with it like you said Rich and hook it back up and see what happens.
Ross
61 Surflite 1964 90HP Johnson project
67 V163 Bayflite Super Sport  1989 100HP Merc
67 V164 Bayflite 120HP
67 V174 Crestflite Rat Rod
71 V175 Crestflite 350ci -Jet
73 GT 160
84 CVX 17  83 115 Merc
88 CVX-23 350 Mag