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Title: Hull Identification Number
Post by: David CVX-16 on April 26, 2018, 08:17:08 PM
There was a thread some time back on the discussion of hull identification numbers, and whether the serial number had to start with certain letters to be a genuine Glastron/Carlson. I can not locate that thread, but promised Gregg I would post my HIN on the 1987 Glastron/Carlson CVX16. Starts with CNO and ends with the date 87
Title: Re: Hull Identification Number
Post by: Plugcheck on April 26, 2018, 08:58:55 PM
Not sure if it helps, but this is the HIN on an 85 Timi.  If ya need, I could go over to the storage building and get the CVZ him. 
Title: Re: Hull Identification Number
Post by: dorelse on April 26, 2018, 09:10:18 PM
Are we sure the change isn't just because of some corporate bankruptcy and needing to sell under a different corporate entity, thus the changing of the first 3 ltr's of the HIN?
Title: Re: Hull Identification Number
Post by: Hyperacme on April 26, 2018, 09:11:20 PM
The thread is here ...
http://forum.cgoamn.com/index.php?topic=7655.0 (http://forum.cgoamn.com/index.php?topic=7655.0)

But let's keep this one going ...

Just Glastron / Carlson's please

Post ... 
Year
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Serial number picture
Title: Re: Hull Identification Number
Post by: Hyperacme on April 26, 2018, 09:14:07 PM
Doran ...
Could be ..
Title: Re: Hull Identification Number
Post by: fireman24mn on April 26, 2018, 10:40:29 PM
first 3 letters indicate manufacturer and last 2 are the year. In the middle is usually the build/ production # and model. They are manufacture specific.
Title: Re: Hull Identification Number
Post by: Hyperacme on April 26, 2018, 10:48:07 PM
1976 CV16
MF Blue / blue

From HIN Decoder ...

GCV HIN Decoder
Our HULL ID Decoder breaks down the Hull identification number into the following information:
The HIN or CIN you have entered meets the Model-Year HIN format. It might also be a type that contains the country code and thus the boat comes from USA or Other . The serial number of the HIN is 04766 and is set by the boat builder. This boat or vessel has a Certification Date of (76) and a Model Year of 76 with month of build (January) based on the formatting of your hull_identification_number (HIN) .
The manufacturer identification code (MIC) of your craft identification number (CIN or HIN) is GCV. This MIC (GCV) stands for the company name Glastron-carlson which is currently Out of Business. This boat manufacturer has other company names (GCV sometimes goes by these name(s) , , , or .
This company (Glastron-carlson) is owned by Art Carlson and is located at 1177 GROVE ST in ANAHEIM state of CA. It manufactured this vessel and placed your HIN or CIN on the hull. The Parent Company for this boat maker is GENMAR INDUSTRIES (). Glastron-carlson has started making boats, yachts and other watercraft as of 8/31/1972 12:00:00 AM and went out of business on (12/30/1987 12:00:00 AM) in the following country: .
Title: Re: Hull Identification Number
Post by: dorelse on April 26, 2018, 11:01:59 PM
My Metric is GCV something...
Title: Re: Hull Identification Number
Post by: David CVX-16 on April 26, 2018, 11:18:23 PM
The first three letters of the HIN are the manufacturer's identification code. There are 16,136 different MIC's.

http://www.uscgboating.org/content/manufacturers-identification.php?pageNum_manufacturers=7&totalRows_manufacturers=16136 (http://www.uscgboating.org/content/manufacturers-identification.php?pageNum_manufacturers=7&totalRows_manufacturers=16136)

My guess is that Glastrons have different MIC's because they had different legal entities.

My CVX-16's MIC of CNO means Glastron-Conroy Industries

Title: Re: Hull Identification Number
Post by: Hyperacme on April 26, 2018, 11:24:47 PM
Mike is that a 4 ?
Third from end ...
Title: Re: Hull Identification Number
Post by: Plugcheck on April 27, 2018, 07:37:45 AM
I'll have to clean it and check again, and get the CVZ info as well.
Title: Re: Hull Identification Number
Post by: Hyperacme on April 27, 2018, 07:49:47 AM
Thanks Mike ..
Doran we have your Metric & CVZ's.

Title: Re: Hull Identification Number
Post by: fireman24mn on April 27, 2018, 10:02:36 AM
I just Dave's but here is what it says.
CNO HIN Decoder

Our HULL ID Decoder breaks down the Hull identification number into the following information:
The HIN or CIN you have entered meets the Current-Format HIN format. It might also be a type that contains the country code and thus the boat comes from USA or Other . The serial number of the HIN is 06174 and is set by the boat builder. This boat or vessel has a Certification Date of (6) and a Model Year of 1987 with month of build (July) based on the formatting of your hull_identification_number (HIN) .

The manufacturer identification code (MIC) of your craft identification number (CIN or HIN) is CNO. This MIC (CNO) stands for the company name Glastron-conroy Indust which is currently Out of Business. This boat manufacturer has other company names (CNO sometimes goes by these name(s) Conroy Industries, , , or .

This company (Glastron-conroy Indust) is owned by David Mosley and is located at 3150 I-H 35 W in NEW BRAUNFELS state of TX. It manufactured this vessel and placed your HIN or CIN on the hull. The Parent Company for this boat maker is GENMAR HOLDINGS INC (). Glastron-conroy Indust has started making boats, yachts and other watercraft as of 8/20/1982 12:00:00 AM and went out of business on (4/28/2005 12:00:00 AM) in the following country: .

Make sure to compare the date of boat manufacturing with the dates in which the company was actually in business.

The US Coast guard provides this comment about this watercraft manufacturer: All Glastron Boats Will Use 'gla' After 8/88shown Oob 880902-mso Corpus Christi Reports Active-891215 Oob Per Ppg 4/28/2005..

Here his the link if you want to check others.
https://www.hindecoder.com/ (https://www.hindecoder.com/)
Title: Re: Hull Identification Number
Post by: Hyperacme on April 27, 2018, 11:03:34 AM
I have been using this thread ...
http://forum.cgoamn.com/index.php?topic=5964.0 (http://forum.cgoamn.com/index.php?topic=5964.0)

And this hull code PDF to decipher codes ...
Going to check link you posted ...
Title: Re: Hull Identification Number
Post by: Jason on April 27, 2018, 12:56:48 PM
Appears to be 86 and newer Glastron/Carlsons (and maybe Glastron) are CNO. It probably is as Doran says some major change in the company like a bankruptcy. Since Genmar bought Glastron in 82 then maybe it just took that long to make the change to the HIN.
Title: Re: Hull Identification Number
Post by: Hyperacme on April 27, 2018, 01:52:54 PM
When I asked John Carlson why the Metric's design only lasted a short time, his answer was "Politics".
Which would have been around the 1981 to 1984 time frame.
The Conroy / Glastron connection started about 1967.
Title: Re: Hull Identification Number
Post by: Plugcheck on April 27, 2018, 06:23:05 PM
The Timi has a 4, the CVZ is nearly filled in from primer, paint, flake and clear but it appears to start with gcv and end with 79.
Title: Re: Hull Identification Number
Post by: David CVX-16 on April 28, 2018, 09:13:06 AM
We are aware that Glastron made model changes within the year's production run. For example, my 1987 CVX-16 has the front seat headrests that appeared in 1986 but should not be in 1987. Part of my HIN is "G6" standing for certified production in July of 1986 - an early 1987 model carrying over the headrests from 1986, dropped later in the 1987 production run.
Title: Re: Hull Identification Number
Post by: Hyperacme on May 05, 2018, 12:42:16 PM
GCV06399M77C 1977 CVX20Jet. BL    ... added to list.
Title: Re: Hull Identification Number
Post by: Carlson_from_Germany on May 05, 2018, 03:15:26 PM
I once started a post on this. I think it was on the CGOA board. Back then there wasn’t that much participation.
Title: Re: Hull Identification Number
Post by: Hyperacme on May 05, 2018, 04:15:36 PM
Ya ... Not much participation.
I'll keep trying ...
Could get a few more off Facebook.
Title: Re: Hull Identification Number
Post by: fireman24mn on May 07, 2018, 09:26:51 AM
My 23 has a California VIN number that was provided by the state so it is no help.
Title: Re: Hull Identification Number
Post by: Jason on May 16, 2018, 08:35:25 AM
I asked John Carlson if he had any insight on this. Here was his response:

"I'm not sure why, but I would guess that there was a corporate restructuring. There was a bit of that going on around then.  A new HIN might remove any potential corporate liability from boats previous to 86'. Just a guess."
Title: Re: Hull Identification Number
Post by: Hyperacme on May 16, 2018, 08:42:33 AM
Make sense ... A lot of company's now have the LLC.
Poor John ... 100 question per hour at the meet ... LOL 
Title: Re: Hull Identification Number
Post by: Diamond Chad on July 23, 2019, 01:53:50 PM
Add to the list: CN006189G687 1987 CVX-18 Red metal flake, Blue transition stripe in the gelcoat, and white. 260 Mercruiser Alpha 1

(https://employees.casinotrac.com/18serial.jpg)
Title: Re: Hull Identification Number
Post by: thedeuceman on July 23, 2019, 08:29:04 PM
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Title: Re: Hull Identification Number
Post by: DL-North on August 06, 2019, 03:49:38 AM
1984 CVX 17 Silver
GLAC4185M84F
Title: Re: Hull Identification Number
Post by: Hydronut on August 14, 2019, 11:51:51 AM
One more for your list

1975 Glastron Carlson CV-16

HIN GCV03087M75A

Color Plum
Title: Re: Hull Identification Number
Post by: Hyperacme on August 14, 2019, 01:54:50 PM
Thank you .. Are you coming to Red Wing ?
Title: Re: Hull Identification Number
Post by: Hyperacme on August 14, 2019, 01:56:05 PM
Updated .. Aug. 14 2019


A =  Apricot
BL = Blue
BK = Black
BR = Brown
C =  Champagne
CO = Coral
CS = California Special
E =  E Mist
F =  Amber
GL = Gold / Bronze
GR = Green
OR = Orange
P =  Plum
R =  Red
S =  Silver


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112K  1960's C100

1215  1965 18 Inboard

1471  1966 Contender
1516  1966 Challenger

1745  1967 Challenger

1957  1969 Challenger

2410-B 1971 CV16. A                                           
2426-B 1971 CV16. A                                           
2631-C 1971 CV16. A
2650-C 1971 CV16  GR                                           
1391094 1971 CV19SS

GCV000051172 1972 CV16SS A                                           
GCV000621172 1972 CV16. A                                     
GCV1292519 1972 CV19. GR
                                                                         
GCV1193059 1973 CV16. A
GCV1493208  1973 CV16 BL                                       
GCV1193295 1973 CV16. A                                         
GCV00145M73E 1973 CV16. BL
GCV00797M73I 1973 CV16SS
GCV00844M73? 1973 CV16 A
                                     
GCVO1172M74A 1974 CV16SS BL                                   
GCV01762M74C 1974 CV16SS. GR
GCV01847M74D 1974 CV21. GL                                 
GCV02379M74H 1974 CV16 GR                                     
GCV02358m74h 1974 CV-18
GCV02489M74I 1974 CV16

GCV03087M75A 1975 CV16 P
GCV03283M75  1975 CV16V8.P
                                                                       
GCV04295M76B 1976 CVX20. OR
GCV04459M76D 1976 CV16 V8 OR
GCV04598M76X 1976 CV16 BL
GCV04766M76F 1976 CV16. BL

GCV06310M77C 1977 CVX16. OR
GCV06399M77C 1977 CVX20Jet. BL

GCV08868M78A 1978 CVX16 OR
GCV09123M78B 1978 CVZ18.
GVC09332M78C 1978 CVX16 BL
GCV09446M78D 1978 CVX20 Sprint
GCV10465M78H 1978 CVZ18.GL
GCV10480M78H 1978 CVX18.S

GCV11892M79C 1979 CVX16D OR
GVC12072m79d 1979 CVX16 BL
GCV1493M79K  1979 CVX20
GCV15210M79L 1979 CVX18. BL


GCV15361M80A 1980 CVX16SS. BL
GCV15817M80C 1980 CVX16. GL
GCV16332M80F 1980 CVZ19. C
GCV16623M80G 1980 CVX18. CS
GCV16389M80F 1980 CVX18. C
GCV16390M80F 1980 CVX18. C

GCV16935M81A 1981 C512 E
GCV17524M81F 1981 C500. R
GCV17586M81F 1981 C512 BL
GCV17686M81F 1981 C500 Yellow
GCV17689M81F 1981 CXT Scimitar

GCV18595M82D 1982 C-535 F

GCV19262M83H 1983 CVX16 R

GCV19508M84A 1984 Timmi O
GCV19590M84B 1984 CVX17. CO
GNO01706M84G 1984 CVX16 BR
GCV20000M84I 1984 Timmi.
CN001990M84  1984 CVX16. BR
GLAC4185M84F 1984 CVX17 S

GLAC5673H485 1985 Timmi. CO

CN005504C686 1986 CV23. R
CNO05385B686 1986 CVX16. S

CNO06174G687 1987 CVX16. R
CNO06189G687 1987 CVX18  R
CNO07411C787 1987 CVX18. BR
CNO07583D787 1987 CV23. BL

CN008925K788 1988 CVX18. BK

GLAG1028HI92 1992 16CSS
Title: Re: Hull Identification Number
Post by: Hydronut on August 15, 2019, 10:58:39 AM
Life can get in the way of doing the things that we like to do.
Maybe next year we can make it to the meet.
Title: Re: Hull Identification Number
Post by: DL-North on August 15, 2019, 07:49:28 PM
Forgot this one, Joe scrapped it last year.

1984 CVX 16 S/N GN001706M84G BR
Title: Re: Hull Identification Number
Post by: Hyperacme on August 18, 2019, 02:46:50 PM
Updated ...