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Title: 16' Maltese Magnum Missile
Post by: David CVX-16 on January 01, 2018, 06:22:43 PM
This boat should be fast with a 115 HP Merc. Someone on FaceBook is posting his - 67 MPH. I believe Don L has one. Manufactured in the late 1960's. 

The fine print in the advertising literature says "short shaft"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21fblneOTuY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21fblneOTuY)
Title: Re: 16" Magnum Maltese Missile
Post by: Retro Performance on January 10, 2018, 08:16:44 PM
Dave, attached is a photo of the one I built......I sold it when I decided to get rid of all my boats and it went to Florida last I know.
Now when you get old and decide to sell all your boats it may not go quite the way you plan..........Last fall a guy stops by the house and says he has an old boat he thinks I might be interested in.........Been sitting in a garage for 20 years.....super nice original...seats and all....but I am getting rid...........I'll take it. Right after I took this photo it went into the barn for winter.
Title: Re: 16" Magnum Maltese Missile
Post by: Silver GT-150 on January 10, 2018, 09:16:58 PM
Wow, that's a nice Hydrostream!
Title: Re: 16" Magnum Maltese Missile
Post by: David CVX-16 on January 10, 2018, 09:43:33 PM
Thanks for the story Don. I kinda thought you had a Magnum Maltese Missile. What did you think of it? Your 150 HP Mercury is a short shaft as the literature stated that it needed. How fast did the boat go and how did it handle?

Your latest Hydrostream looks really nice.
Title: Re: 16" Magnum Maltese Missile
Post by: Hyperacme on January 11, 2018, 10:20:53 AM
Hydrostream Ventura ?
Title: Re: 16" Magnum Maltese Missile
Post by: Retro Performance on January 11, 2018, 11:12:51 AM
The Missile handled well, typical for true tunnels I  would say.  With that engine ran in the sixties.........Hyper, that is a Panther Tunnel, funny you mentioned the Ventura....... About a month before I came upon the Panther I fell into a smoking deal on a Ventura, I will post a photo when I get home. Think I am back up to nine now. Both boats came with Mercury 1400's ..............I think I said it once before...............I just like boats
Title: Re: 16" Magnum Maltese Missile
Post by: Hyperacme on January 11, 2018, 11:46:26 AM
WOW !
Had to look that model up ...
Very COOL !

http://hydrostream.org/Specific%20Models/Panther.htm (http://hydrostream.org/Specific%20Models/Panther.htm)
Title: Re: 16" Magnum Maltese Missile
Post by: David CVX-16 on January 11, 2018, 12:48:23 PM
Don's other Hydrostream.
Title: Re: 16" Magnum Maltese Missile
Post by: David CVX-16 on January 11, 2018, 06:07:58 PM
It's nice to have the space to own multiple boats. If I had to choose four boats for the right weather conditions, number of passengers on board, and large vs. small bodies of water, I would choose my Glastron/Carlson CVX-16, a 16' Magnum Maltese Missile, an Allision Grand Sport, and a 22' Progesssion.   
Title: Re: 16" Magnum Maltese Missile
Post by: rayar3 on January 12, 2018, 02:21:49 PM
All those nice boats, and I'm stuck with a garage full of parts! This part arrived in the mail today. Not sure if I needed it, but it was a want. 1500XS lower case with LWP.
Title: Re: 16" Magnum Maltese Missile
Post by: Retro Performance on January 13, 2018, 08:26:23 AM
Nice.....Are you building an XS and whats it going on?
Title: Re: 16" Magnum Maltese Missile
Post by: Retro Performance on January 13, 2018, 08:39:38 AM
Stumbled onto this about a month before the Panther.......Not original and needs some work if restoring but solid enough to play with and the price was right.
Title: Re: 16" Magnum Maltese Missile
Post by: Hyperacme on January 13, 2018, 09:31:14 AM
Ray ...
Guessing that LU is a rare and expensive part ?
Or ... Modified standard LU ?

Nice Don ...
Not as cool as the Panther though ! 
Title: Re: 16" Magnum Maltese Missile
Post by: Retro Performance on January 13, 2018, 10:12:47 AM
 The Panthers are getting kinda hard to find......crazy this one found me?  By the way if anybody has a line on a Hydrostream Vixen I am looking for one....any condition.
Title: Re: 16" Magnum Maltese Missile
Post by: rayar3 on January 13, 2018, 10:36:08 AM
Not sure how rare it is, but I hadn't seen one before. I'd love a 1500XS, but not sure if that's the right motor for my CV project. Since this foot will go on any inline, I'm still thinking a later 86-87 ADI 115, which was 140 (86) and 150 (87) crank hp. So a little less revving than the XS, but the same crank rated HP. The real question is if I stick with a late style mid and integral trim, or go with the late 70's style that I already have and that opens up the possibility of a frankenmotor with a 15" mid and LWP. It's going on a setback bracket anyway, so I can position the engine for optimum height. Basically I have no idea what I'm going to do, so any suggestions are welcome! I think in the spring time if anyone has a lead on a nice 87 115, I'll be in the market!
Title: Re: 16" Magnum Maltese Missile
Post by: Hyperacme on January 13, 2018, 05:06:09 PM
Don ...
Will keep an eye out for one ...
Vixen info page ...
http://www.hydrostream.org/Specific%20Models/Vixen.htm (http://www.hydrostream.org/Specific%20Models/Vixen.htm)

Ray ...
Ed mounted an older Merc on his CV16, had to do some mod's to mount it to jack plate and mod's to hook up to Baystar hydraulic steering.    He hasn't got it on the water yet .. will let you know when he get her running.
Much cheaper and easier to get some old decals for the newer motor ...
Short shaft motor might be to short on a CV.
Title: Re: 16" Magnum Maltese Missile
Post by: Plugcheck on January 13, 2018, 05:13:55 PM
Fixing a vixen has a ring to it, cool boat name.   Prob not many streams around here, but I'll keep an eye out.
Title: Re: 16" Magnum Maltese Missile
Post by: David CVX-16 on January 13, 2018, 09:30:12 PM
Jerry S. has photos of a Hydrostream Vixen on his webpage for $500. I do not know if it is sold or not.

https://www.collectorboats.com/hydrostreams/ (https://www.collectorboats.com/hydrostreams/)

Also Rochester, MN

https://boats-from-usa.com/hydrostream/hydrostream-86630 (https://boats-from-usa.com/hydrostream/hydrostream-86630)



Title: Re: 16" Magnum Maltese Missile
Post by: David CVX-16 on February 02, 2018, 09:28:17 PM
Yellow Maltese magnum Missile in this picture? Collector in Rochester wants to get rid of some boats.

https://minneapolis.craigslist.org/dak/boa/d/vintage-collector-boats-and/6474375322.html
Title: Re: 16' Maltese Magnum Missile
Post by: Retro Performance on February 07, 2018, 07:03:36 PM
Mrs Retro has delivered a couple boats to the guy in Rochester over the years......I think that is a GW Invader in the photo......They look similar to the Magnum in shape. If my old memory is working right tonight Magnum sold the Missile molds to Randy Rabe? who then sold hulls called the Rabco Hustler. No guarantees on the memory stuff......it is as old as me. When I was a kid I raced a Scat-Kraft pickle fork tunnel. I have been looking for one for some years now.....they look like the attached photo....Mine was a kneel down...I ran a v4 OMC .....also there was a full rear fairing available......anyway if anyone knows of one in someones backyard please let me know.


Retro
Title: Re: 16' Maltese Magnum Missile
Post by: David CVX-16 on February 07, 2018, 10:05:17 PM
Don, I believe you are right in that the yellow boat in Rochester is a GW Invader. See pictures below of GW Invader tunnel boats. The caption below one of the pictures says it will go 78.4 MPH with a 100 HP Merc B-P.
Title: Re: 16' Maltese Magnum Missile
Post by: David CVX-16 on February 09, 2018, 08:19:03 PM
I called on this one from Iowa. Boat had been sold 3 years ago and shipped to Florida.

Seller's Notes:

1968 Magnum Maltese Missile tunnel boat with 1987 Evinrude XP200 (200hp) Outboard. Color-red. Motor has Land and Sea jackplate and low water pickup (no prop). Comes with 2 covers. This boat is a classic and has been in storage for almost 20 years.
Title: Re: 16' Maltese Magnum Missile
Post by: David CVX-16 on February 09, 2018, 09:41:23 PM
Another look alike.
Title: Re: 16' Maltese Magnum Missile
Post by: Retro Performance on February 10, 2018, 08:42:03 AM
I do not think I would push a Missile with v6 on it myself.  These old design tunnels can become gliders pretty easy when the speed gets up there............That Invader speed is interesting.....The 100 B-P gearcase had some ratio options I think....maybe as high as 1:1 and as low as 2:1? Dave are you on the hunt for a 70's tunnel?
Title: Re: 16' Maltese Magnum Missile
Post by: David CVX-16 on February 10, 2018, 09:14:59 AM
I would be very tempted to find a fast boat for my 1988 115 HP Mercury, but my common sense side has the upper hand.
Title: Re: 16' Maltese Magnum Missile
Post by: Retro Performance on February 10, 2018, 09:36:58 AM
Starbuck made a 17' tunnel in the late 70's...........I think they are cool looking, maybe one of those will get your common sense side to come around?  Or maybe a center steer GT 150 with some hull mods?
Title: Re: 16' Maltese Magnum Missile
Post by: Hyperacme on February 10, 2018, 10:04:15 AM
How about this one Dave ?
1971 first year Glastron / Carlson CV16 ...

1972 Glastron cv 16 - $300 (Superior)
https://duluth.craigslist.org/boa/d/1972-glastron-cv-16/6470368260.html
Title: Re: 16' Maltese Magnum Missile
Post by: Hyperacme on February 10, 2018, 10:08:56 AM
After countless hours and thousand of dollars it would look pretty cool ...
Title: Re: 16' Maltese Magnum Missile
Post by: David CVX-16 on February 10, 2018, 02:00:30 PM
I'd like something that is ready to drive. Too old to spend hours redoing a boat.

This one for $7,500 without the motor. A 115 HP may not do it justice.

"For sale boat and trailer only rigged fo Mercury has trim pump hydraulic steering aluminum trailer $7500 this boat has been completely redone from top to bottom"
Title: Re: 16' Maltese Magnum Missile
Post by: Retro Performance on February 10, 2018, 02:23:49 PM
Wow thats nice......a Viper with a 115 (crank rated) will run 63 on the speedo (at least that one did)....attached Vintage photo from Minnesota Lake X
Title: Re: 16' Maltese Magnum Missile
Post by: Hyperacme on February 10, 2018, 04:13:55 PM
Oh Ya ... That one would scoot right along with the 2.5L Merc !
Maybe Don will sell the Panther ...
Title: Re: 16' Maltese Magnum Missile
Post by: David CVX-16 on February 10, 2018, 04:46:03 PM
Wow thats nice......a Viper with a 115 (crank rated) will run 63 on the speedo (at least that one did)....attached Vintage photo from Minnesota Lake X

63 MPH is quite a step up from the 58 or so MPH I am experiencing now with the CVX-16. My speedometer reads about 63 MPH -  I should not have GPS'ed it.