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Offline Jason

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Re: I REALLY hate it when that happens!
« Reply #20 on: October 17, 2010, 09:54:43 PM »
WHOA! That really sucks.

OK, WITH ALL THIS BAD LUCK GOIN AROUND EVERYONE JUST NEEDS TO LEAVE THERE BOATS ALONE TILL AFTER HALLOWEEN WHEN THIS BAD LUCK PASSES!

I think this should have been posted on this thread.

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Re: I REALLY hate it when that happens!
« Reply #21 on: October 18, 2010, 10:03:20 AM »
Dang!
Sorry to hear about the mis hap.
Anything can be fixed so dont sweat that too bad. Good thing no one was hurt. So that solenoid needs to be replaced?
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Re: I REALLY hate it when that happens!
« Reply #22 on: October 18, 2010, 11:19:14 AM »
Hey Ross, not sure yet.  It's either a wiring problem to it, or the soleniod itself (which I understand is IN the lower unit)?  I'll have to obviously address that too... kinda pissed with this engine, though I know it's really my fault for not recognizing what was happening quick enough.  Talk about a weird sensation driving it afterwards... I can put the boat in reverse and throttle up while we're going forward ...  ??? ... just not natural.  Would like to replace at some point, but not the timing for it with the job hunt, etc.  So, it may be a while before all this stuff gets fixed.  I think my priority is the hull/rub rail... can't stand to look at it this way! 

Jason, recent?  Must have hit some debris?  That's a bummer... like you said, lot's of bad luck goin' round.  I'm throttling back.
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Re: I REALLY hate it when that happens!
« Reply #23 on: October 18, 2010, 12:01:51 PM »
Jason, recent?  Must have hit some debris?  That's a bummer... like you said, lot's of bad luck goin' round.  I'm throttling back.

Garbage can in the driveway!

Oh well, If wanted out boats, tucks, toys, ect to look perfect forever we wouldn't use them and they would sit in the garage. What's the fun in that??!!
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Re: I REALLY hate it when that happens!
« Reply #24 on: October 18, 2010, 04:10:20 PM »
Ooh owch! Oh that's a bummer man. Well, at least it's above the waterline ...?

Good thing your wife thought twice about trying to stop it. That could've easily resulted in a broken arm. Even small boats carry a lot of momentum. 'Course you already know that ...

Ah well it happens to the best of us Mark. Luckily fiberglass is very forgiving material. The right gel-coat guy could make that look like it never happened. Probly put a lil dent in yer wallet though, but what're ya gonna do.

I wouldn't be in a big rush to replace the rubrail insert. Heck that oughta clean up okay. Someone who knew their way around aluminum could probly massage that rail back into shape too.

Good luck with it.





   
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Re: I REALLY hate it when that happens!
« Reply #25 on: October 18, 2010, 04:27:24 PM »
Mark

Purchased the rub rail insert through West marine it comes from TACO metals in Florida, but you cannot order direct from them.  Maybe you could figure out a way to do that.

Also they have the aluminum sections but only in 12ft, West sain they could get in longer pieces I dont know.

Look up Taco metals for all your parts

Good luck sorry to hear about your bad luck

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Re: I REALLY hate it when that happens!
« Reply #26 on: October 18, 2010, 04:34:22 PM »
Yes, bummin for sure.  For the rub rail, metal and rubber, does the whole side need to be replaced or a section?  And is there a source for these parts?

Thanks.

Very sorry to hear of your mess Mark.  I am sure there must be a shop similar to WhiteBear Boat Works down there.  If not bring it up next summer I am sure they could fix the gel and the rub rail could likely be straightened out or replaced.  There is a plate and polish shop here in Phoenix that I have had straightened out trim a few time for cars and trucks that has a way of making the worst look like new again. Solid is much easier to have matched and repaired than flake.

I share your pain.  Still kickin' myself for the fateful morning I left the truck running with the door open!  Done it 100 times before.  First time is always the worst.
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Re: I REALLY hate it when that happens!
« Reply #27 on: October 18, 2010, 08:44:20 PM »
Today, October 18, 2010, is the one year anniversary of boating on the St. Croix with a hole in the hull and almost sinking the boat. I still can recall the horrible, depressing, suicidal, bitter, angry, hopeless, and frustrating thoughts. But it is now all fixed.
Gelcoat is perfect color and workmanship is excellent. Thank you White Bear Boatworks. 
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Re: I REALLY hate it when that happens!
« Reply #28 on: October 19, 2010, 08:03:53 AM »
THANKS ALL, appreciate the help and words!
Doug--that's true, didn't think about it, but the insert can probably be used again, not much damage, maybe even the metal with the right person working it.
Jeff--thanks for the info, I'll check em out and let you know if I run into any roadblocks that I can't get through.
Chris--hmmmmm, WhiteBear, huh?  I see David used them too.  I'll keep that in my hip pocket... I'm talking to a guy now in Double Oak TX, J&J Sports, comes highly recommended by a senior member of our outboard club, been doing this for 40 years.  Sent pics, talk to him about it, now waiting on a rough estimate, but I may be pulling it to him this week sometime.  BTW--I see your truck Chris, sorry bout that!... especially tough when this stuff happens to classic vehicles in great shape!  Again, nobody hurt though... that's a positive!
David--OMG, you hit the nail on the head... going through some of the feelings right now, but it's getting a little easier getting some indications that it can be fixed properly.  I'm ok until I see it in the garage.  I'm looking forward to the point where I can look back at the pictures and smile, MAYBE.   

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Re: I REALLY hate it when that happens!
« Reply #29 on: October 19, 2010, 09:50:54 AM »
Mark, IF you want to replace the rub rail insert, you need Taco V12-0338.  I just replaced mine last spring because it was pretty scuffed up from rubbing against piers over the years.  Can't order directly from Taco, but got it from West Marine.  $99.00  Got it in a 50 foot length, in black of course, so the complete Taco part number is:  V12-0338BKA50-1.   Note in the attached pic, that the insert comes to more of a pointed edge vs. the rounded edge of the original insert.  Taco does make a rounded edge insert, but it will not fit our rub rails.  My boat didn't need the entire 50 foot length, so I have some left.  If you, or any other member, would like a piece to make absolutely certain it will fit your rub rail, just let me know.  I would be happy to mail out a sample.  Replacing the rub rail insert is easy.  Took me about 2 hours by myself to remove old and put in new.

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Re: I REALLY hate it when that happens!
« Reply #30 on: October 19, 2010, 10:19:29 AM »
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but the insert can probably be used again, not much damage, maybe even the metal with the right person working it

Mark - I think that's your best bet. Like BC noted the insert available has a different profile than the one currently on the boat and I think in your case you want to keep it as original as you can. Also the aluminum extrusions are only sold in either 10' or 12' lengths(can't remember exactly) so you'll have to buy 2 and have a seam. Like you said I'll bet the right person could straighten that back to where you won't even notice it.

Sorry to hear about the mishap. 
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Re: I REALLY hate it when that happens!
« Reply #31 on: October 19, 2010, 06:58:11 PM »
Haven't ordered from Taco in awhile but believe my shop's account is still active. $100 minimum order last time I checked.

Ironicly I have stb old & port new inserts on the boat. (My buddy only had enough to do half.) But to date not one person has walked up & accused me of having rubrail inserts that don't match ...?

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Re: I REALLY hate it when that happens!
« Reply #32 on: October 19, 2010, 08:47:26 PM »
Doug
How much do you need to finish.
I have a section left from doing my 174.
I'll trade it for a bimini cover if it's enough.
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Re: I REALLY hate it when that happens!
« Reply #33 on: October 20, 2010, 05:57:44 PM »
Probly need at least 16' or so. Considering the bow flare? When it stops raining I'll go out & hang a tape on it.
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Re: I REALLY hate it when that happens!
« Reply #34 on: October 23, 2010, 10:12:47 AM »
May be very close -  ???  

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