Post by: thedeuceman on October 17, 2018, 08:44:39 AM
gel/flake is way past saving but oddly enough the seat bottoms look and feel new.
plenty of dock rash as well
it came with an extra dash loaded with orig gauges but neither one is in very good condition.
it has the trim/moldings and original boarding ladder is intact :-D
302 ford motor (prob not original as it has the clutch arm pivot common to old fords still on it.
motor is locked up but block is not cracked as far as i can tell.
has original Glastron exhaust manifolds and they are in good condition.
Volvo outdrive removed but appears to be in good condition.
this will be our next Boat project and hope to working on it soon.
Post by: thedeuceman on October 17, 2018, 08:49:43 AM
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Post by: Hyperacme on October 17, 2018, 10:22:57 AM
CV seats are pretty rare … Not great shape but useable, looks like they were redone at some point.
Nice to have patterns if you redo them in a pumpkin print … :-/
You could try "Plastic welding" on dash, have seen it done on snowmobile hoods, or the wood dash like another guy did on a CV.
How bad are the stringers/floor/transom ?
If there bad, can you replace with Merc drive ?
Or keep Volvo drive ...
Gel or paint ?
That's not "Dock Rash" … That's "Patina" .. ;)
Post by: Plugcheck on October 17, 2018, 10:46:48 AM
Post by: thedeuceman on October 17, 2018, 11:32:46 AM
* floor is soft, plan on replacing all of it
If there bad, can you replace with Merc drive ?
Or keep Volvo drive ...
* still looking into it, but as i am in position of all the tools required to work on mercs thats prob the way i will go
Gel or paint ?
most likley gel, i got a sample of square cut .015 & .025 flake from the same place i got the flake for the 1900
* it looks AMAZING
appears that your on a quest to save all the Glastrons
* nope, other projects gotta go, for me the Plum CV16V8 "Holy Grail" have been wanting from the first time i saw one.
Post by: Hyperacme on October 17, 2018, 02:53:30 PM
You got two CV V8's now ..
Post by: thedeuceman on October 17, 2018, 03:02:28 PM
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Post by: thedeuceman on October 17, 2018, 06:15:26 PM
I believe that to be a true statement Gregg.
As requested
75 CV16V8
GCV03283M75
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Post by: thedeuceman on October 17, 2018, 06:20:38 PM
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Post by: Hyperacme on October 17, 2018, 06:46:58 PM
Gonna look SWEET !
Thank you for SN.
Anybody else like to list your number / numbers ?
Just G/C please.
Post by: thedeuceman on October 20, 2018, 03:55:12 PM
The orange one that came from Chris
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Post by: Hyperacme on October 20, 2018, 08:36:04 PM
Anybody else ?
Post by: thedeuceman on October 21, 2018, 09:51:36 PM
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Post by: Mrs.TheDeuceMan on October 21, 2018, 11:12:37 PM
Nice looking pair, even in the dark
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Post by: thedeuceman on October 22, 2018, 09:28:56 PM
In daylight ya can actually see that one is plum and the other is orange.
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Post by: Hyperacme on October 23, 2018, 08:52:54 AM
Or .. Is it a toss up ?
Post by: thedeuceman on October 23, 2018, 09:06:32 AM
In a fantasy world, I restore both of them and Laurie and I have to play rock paper scissors to see who gets to take the plum one when we go out on the river.
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Post by: Hyperacme on October 23, 2018, 09:40:28 AM
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Post by: thedeuceman on October 23, 2018, 08:24:43 PM
Imo. Ditch the Vulva and go with a Mercruiser.Yep
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Post by: fireman24mn on October 24, 2018, 10:03:56 AM
Shawn hasn't expressed any interest in one of them ?
Maybe he has?
Post by: Hot Rod Roy on October 24, 2018, 02:50:14 PM
Anybody else like to list your number / numbers ? Just G/C please.
This info should be posted/collected at a special place! It'll get lost here. My blue '74 CV16 is: GCV02489M74I (or is that a 741?) I don't think blue was a standard '74 color?
Post by: Hyperacme on October 24, 2018, 03:14:59 PM
Any traces of original color under vinyl or behind dash ?
I have SN that I've collected, I can post them if you'd like to see them.
Going to put them in " Vendor and Repair Resources " soon ... I'm just so (cough cough LAZY) bussy ..
Shawn ..
COOL !
Post by: Hot Rod Roy on October 24, 2018, 03:57:08 PM
Roy . . Would have been Green or Plum.
Any traces of original color under vinyl or behind dash?
Flake is 100% original! I've had vinyl and dash apart for resto job, and the blue is even more beautiful "where the sun don't shine"! Floor is solid, and appears to be original, too! Did a major rebuild on the ABS dash, and used kevlar cloth for the rebuild. What could be more appropriate for a James Bond boat? Jel coat was shot, but I created my own resto process for the jel coat . . . spar varnish! Note that my other boat is a mahogany Chris Craft that I've owned for many years, so I know how to lay down a good spar varnish job. Several people have been shocked when I tell them that story! Restoring the '73 Ev was a challenge, too! Runs sweet now! That picture was taken at an ACBS Classic Boat Show. Thanks for your prompt response.
Post by: thedeuceman on October 24, 2018, 04:18:29 PM
We will be doing 2 soon
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Post by: Hyperacme on October 24, 2018, 04:37:34 PM
Your number is high, so later build.
Serial numbers posted here ..
http://forum.cgoamn.com/index.php?topic=8012.0 (http://forum.cgoamn.com/index.php?topic=8012.0)
YES !
Please post your dash repair.
I'll add it to the "Vendor and Repair Resources" section, if thats OK with you ?
Post by: Hot Rod Roy on October 24, 2018, 06:47:21 PM
Could you post process/ pix of dash rebuild ?
Your plum CV looks about like my blue one when I found it! I don't see any major damage, other than the sunburn. My spar varnish isn't as nice as a good gel coat, but for a 44 year old boat, it's not half bad! I've entered it in several ACBS shows, where it gets a lot of compliments!
My ABS dash was a mess. ABS plastic does very poorly when exposed to so much sunshine. I'm surprised they chose that chemistry for the dash. The right end was missing, so I made a mold from the left end and made a new right end. Two of the gauges fell right thru the holes, so I had to make new cups for them. A yogurt cup made a good mold for the center gas gauge. Drill a drainage hole at the bottom of each instrument recess. The glove box door had a big hole where the original handle mounted.
I had some kevlar cloth from a previous project, but f'glass would work just fine for reinforcing the interior surface of the dash. Scuff the entire interior surface with 100 g. sandpaper. Use strips of f'glass cloth to fit the contours, and bond with 20 minute EPOXY (not polyester) resin. The 20 min. cure time gives you time to get thing adjusted. You'll need to apply some tape to the outside of the dash to pull cracked areas together. Do a small section at a time, with time to cure that area before you move to the next area. I used a piece of Formica to create a new face for my dash to rebuild the broken glove box door. I found a friendly cabinet maker who had lots of interesting scrap pieces of Formica that were looking for a new application!
We're on our maiden voyage here, after the restoration, at the genuine London Bridge, Lake Havasu AZ.
Post by: aquamaniac on October 24, 2018, 11:51:33 PM
This info should be posted/collected at a special place! It'll get lost here. My blue '74 CV16 is: GCV02489M74I (or is that a 741?) I don't think blue was a standard '74 color?
The I at the end of your hull number means that it was built in April of 1974. That late in the production year your boat could have been either a special order blue, or built for 1975 promotional purposes. Advertising copy and brochures would have been shot in early summer and blue was a standard color for 1975.
Post by: Hot Rod Roy on October 25, 2018, 12:09:01 AM
Post by: Jason on October 25, 2018, 06:49:01 AM
The I at the end of your hull number means that it was built in April of 1974. That late in the production year your boat could have been either a special order blue, or built for 1975 promotional purposes. Advertising copy and brochures would have been shot in early summer and blue was a standard color for 1975.
I was going to say the same thing. There seems to be some of this crossover in models. For the most part, they seem to follow the brochures but there are some "specials" out there.
Your blue seems a lot lighter than the blue they used those years but with fading and could have lightened it up quite a bit.
Post by: Hot Rod Roy on October 25, 2018, 05:30:27 PM
Your blue seems a lot lighter than the blue they used those years but with fading and could have lightened it up quite a bit.
Yes, I'm aware that my blue has faded, but I was more interested in putting a shine back onto the boat, rather than making it look like a new boat! A new flake and gel coat job would also be very expensive! It runs like new, though!
8)
Post by: Hyperacme on October 25, 2018, 05:54:14 PM
Did you wet sand it before varnish or was it to far gone to wet sand ?
Post by: Hot Rod Roy on October 25, 2018, 10:48:54 PM
Did you wet sand it before varnish or was it too far gone to wet sand ?
I didn't think it would look as nice as your boat, Greg, but decided to give it a try! The gel coat was in bad shape, but I did wet sand first. Got a lot of glitter in my water bucket! There's no way to get a good smooth glitter coat! I had to be careful not to sand thru the glitter. The first coat of spar varnish made a huge improvement, so that was encouraging. Then another wet sand followed by another spar varnish. Then more wet sand, up to 1500 g. (usually called "color sanding" in the car culture), then polish and McGuires car wax! Spar varnish doesn't get hard, like regular varnish or automotive paint, so wet sanding spar requires lots of water and patience, and a little car wash soap in the water. Spar varnish is very important, not regular varnish! I use Interlux Goldspar Clear, which also has UV protection.
This is obviously an unorthodox procedure on a 'glass boat, so time will tell whether my experiment is any good! This is the same procedure I use on my Chris Craft, except that I'm wet sanding mahogany, which some people also think is strange!
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Post by: Hyperacme on October 25, 2018, 11:33:02 PM
Looks good from here !
Post by: Hot Rod Roy on October 26, 2018, 01:41:39 PM
Now we need to see some progress on Deuceman's CV16's! Hey Deuceman, where'd you get that handle? Do you have a '32 Ford? (I just sold a nice Ford 302 roller cam engine that would have been perfect for your boat, if I weren't so far away!)
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Post by: thedeuceman on October 27, 2018, 07:37:38 AM
I needed to climb onto the bow for access to the bow eye for tie-up at an ACBS show, and almost slid into the water because the surface was so slick!Hoping to get on the plum one early next year but we got lotta stuff going on right now. Not gonna have anything too exotic for a motor, I have a merc 225 (302 ford) that will prob go in it.
Now we need to see some progress on Deuceman's CV16's! Hey Deuceman, where'd you get that handle? Do you have a '32 Ford? (I just sold a nice Ford 302 roller cam engine that would have been perfect for your boat, if I weren't so far away!)
::)
As for the handle...
Last name is Bigelow
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