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Offline Laine73GT160

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Re: My new tow vehicle.
« Reply #20 on: September 27, 2010, 10:00:35 PM »
Thanks Jerry
You know cool.
You know the techniques; real lace is an old hotrod technique.
Thanks for sharing, when the new guy asks questions you can tell him to figure it out or share your knowledge.
Thanks
I will have some questions in the future, like you favorite paint for a boat.  Even pro auto guys run the other way if you ask about paint for boats, it needs to be flexible yet hard, and lots of clear.  I painted my corvette when I lived in AZ with some fancy urethane.  It never cracked, and the clear was hard it could be buffed and buffed.  The right modern paint has to be out there for boats.  I think it is Four winds that have already gone to full painted boats top and bottom.
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« Reply #21 on: September 27, 2010, 10:31:35 PM »
Sorry. don't paint boats.
Gel-Coat.
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« Reply #22 on: September 28, 2010, 08:28:35 AM »
Actually the FireFlite is painted. The hull is an Epoxy that you can't buy anymore. (EPA) The deck and lace is just Acrylic Enamel.  Gel-Coat is cheaper and very easy to apply. If you can shoot Enamel you can shoot Gel.
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« Reply #23 on: September 28, 2010, 05:43:27 PM »
Cool ride Laine. Not sure but my cousin might still have a pickup version. Matter of fact there's a window tint guy in town that has a van. I'll try to remember to get a pic.

Yes I'm told that handling & acceleration can be improved by moving the motor aft ...
'81 C500_given away, bought back_75.1 mph
'81 Baja 15SS_140 Frankenrude_66.7 mph
'70 something SpeedCraft_(Allison 16R Clone)_69.0 mph
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'71 V153_54.8 mph_wrecked


WALK TALL AND CARRY A BIG BILGE PUMP

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« Reply #24 on: September 28, 2010, 05:46:02 PM »
They were designated "Falcons" btw.
'81 C500_given away, bought back_75.1 mph
'81 Baja 15SS_140 Frankenrude_66.7 mph
'70 something SpeedCraft_(Allison 16R Clone)_69.0 mph
'79 CVZ19_given away
'71 V153_54.8 mph_wrecked


WALK TALL AND CARRY A BIG BILGE PUMP

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« Reply #25 on: October 02, 2010, 06:45:23 PM »
Uh yeah I'd say moving the motor aft would help, espceially THAT motor! Kinda takes care of the cargo space, but who cares?
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« Reply #26 on: October 02, 2010, 09:00:44 PM »
Don't go too far.



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« Reply #27 on: October 03, 2010, 09:59:09 AM »
I remember seeing that Little Red Wagon in the 60's I beleive. Awesome shot! The rear tires are coming off the ground!
Ross
61 Surflite 1964 90HP Johnson project
67 V163 Bayflite Super Sport  1989 100HP Merc
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« Reply #28 on: October 03, 2010, 10:06:38 AM »
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« Reply #29 on: October 13, 2010, 07:44:34 PM »

WHANTED ANY INFORMATIOIN ON THIS PERSON PHOTOGRAFED IN THE LATE 70?S

It is believed his love for old Glastron boats or classic hippy vans may have brought him out of hiding.



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« Reply #30 on: October 13, 2010, 08:54:16 PM »
Here's a cool mid-engine.





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« Reply #31 on: October 13, 2010, 10:41:11 PM »
That's Troy Johnson from Brainerd.  Complete Toronado drive in backwards to drive the PU.   He also used Boat Headers on that 455 Olds.
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« Reply #32 on: October 13, 2010, 11:08:02 PM »
There is a crossover between car guys and boat guys!  Cool is Cool

I will talk a little boat so as to not upset anyone.  I am sold on seafoam.  I used it to start this old van motor.

Changed oil and filter and added one can to the oil, as varnish and carbon dissolves the new old is turning darker faster than without the seafoam.  A few oil changes and I should have a clean motor.
Pulled spark plugs so motor turned over easy, two cylinders had poor completion.  Sticky rings? Carbon valves? No mater seafoom in cylinders gently turned over and the hardest part let sit over night.  Equal compression (good).

Removed valve cover turning over easy no plugs.  3 rockers no oil (bad) think o yah medical guy needle and syringes and seafoam in to push rods (without removing rockers).  Again the hard part waiting over night.  Next day no sticky lifters. Oil on all rockers (good).

Voltage to coil and distributer time to slow down and think.  New points, condenser, cap, rotor, plug wires, plugs under $60.

Thee gallon boat reserve can, three foot of gas hose, fresh gas heavy on the seafoam.
Gas , compression, spark, (yes it runs)!!  Up to temperature thermostat opens good.  Compression test at operating temperature good.  Only runs with a little chock.  Vacuum leak? Or sticky carburetor float?  Tightened all vacuum lines previous owner was an air craft mechanic.  Metal lines not rubber on this gem.  Ran second can of gas heavy on the seafoam and now runs great and ideals no chock.

Now  in the past I would have pulled the distributer, primed the old pump with my electric drill.  Disassembled the head, valve train rockers, pushrods, and lifters.  But by going slow and allowing the seafoam the time to work.  I saved a lot of time and money.  I am confident I have a good solid motor.  I?m loving driving the van now and later I know it is worth the time to rebuild.  

So seafoam works!!!

My 2 cycle boat runs better if clean.  No carbon and varnish in the engine and carburetors.

And I have tested it on starting an old four stoke that had not run for years and believe it saved me a lot of labor time and money to safely get that motor running.

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« Reply #33 on: October 14, 2010, 07:14:02 AM »
Seafoam is awesome stuff. So is there tranny stuff called Transtune. Took the slip right out of my old Dodge tranny!

Glad to hear you got her running!
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« Reply #34 on: October 14, 2010, 08:27:03 PM »
Complete Toronado drive in backwards to drive the PU.   He also used Boat Headers on that 455 Olds.

Olds works easily- GM
A favorite for ever in hotrods or kit cars is the Jaguar independent rear.
My speedshop guy said the stock ford 9inch and he knows of drive shafts only inches long working fine.
Ford bought Jaguar, so guess what, all new mustangs have jaguar inboard disk drakes independent suspension, don?t need no stinking driveshaft.  Next few years bet a mustang or two will be found in junkyards.
My stock strait six is 130hp, and I being lucky on occasion is the only six that has a bolt on 150hp kit for about $900. Offenhowser intake , 1-holly 370cfm four barrel commonly used on dual four barrel set ups cars or boat, and hooker headers.  Now we are close to 300hp with the reliable strait six.

 OH well locale boat dealer friend just offered me 3 props to try on my boat.  If I decide to prop/speed test this fall.  With all the trees in the water I am trying to deside test/tune/store or store.  I have a 22ss, 53mph at 5300rpm.  He has offered me a 21ss, 23ss and24ss to test.  Yes one of them was never made he had a 22ss repitched to23 when he was a racer.  I need to check the waters or store the boat.

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« Reply #35 on: October 14, 2010, 09:45:27 PM »
If a Jaguar rear end will work what years and models? The lincoln LS is the same as the S-Type. The 4.0 V8 in jags is just about identical to the Lincoln LS V8 too. I think the newer (2005) mustangs share the same platform of the LS but aren't they still a rigid axle. Oh, Ford Sold Jaguar to Tata (india car company) last year or the year before.

Strandberg's salvage yard in Centuria WI specializes in Jags and Volvo's. Wouldn't be hard to find a rear end there.
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« Reply #36 on: October 15, 2010, 01:47:39 PM »
I only know of the Jaguar rear ends from real Jaguars.  I have followed kit cars like the mustang cobra and others for years.  I have found Jaguars on EBay for almost nothing.  2 weeks later people are asking for photos of the rear-end.  So I know the kit car people have found the same car I found.  Prices jump from hundreds to thousands for cars people plan to junk/ part out so they can keep the rear-end.

Recently on one of the Saturday mourning TV car shows they used a new mustang rear end on a project car.  It looked identical to the Jaguar, the rear-end center section in a metal tube box, inboard disk brakes, upper and lower swing arms, to the wheel, independent suspension , open CV joint axels to the wheels.  And as I said Ford owns Jaguar.  Not surprising ford would barrow the only good engineered part from Jaguar.  On the Jag you unbolt 4 bolts from the frame and the hole assemble comes out because it is built into the cage/frame.

I have no ideal which fords are using this independent rear end setup.  The mustang for sure and probably any of the upscale cars that they want to handle well.

I have read Henry Fords memoires and he is of course famous for making any poses easer and more productive.  It would be in keeping with the company philosophy to build and put that well designed rear end in every rear wheel drive car.  Sorry racers that love the ford 9inch rear-end but its only fault is it is a solid axle and not independent.   Please let?s not start a drag racer road racer discussion.

I have also been reading some old books on installing engines in boats.   Now there is some innovative and creative engineering.  Motors facing forward, backward, transmissions, transfer cases strait or angled, gearing, look at old wood boats, modern competition ski boats, the modern outdrives or jet pump.  Boaters have designed some very interesting ways to turn a propeller.  (It is fascinating creative and had to end with something boating)

We are a boat club.  But any one that would buy an old Glastron , split it in half, rebuild it, restore it, has the same illness as a car guy.

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« Reply #37 on: October 15, 2010, 02:06:38 PM »
HENRY FORD IS THE MAN!
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« Reply #38 on: October 15, 2010, 02:46:18 PM »
If a Jaguar rear end will work what years and models? The lincoln LS is the same as the S-Type. The 4.0 V8 in jags is just about identical to the Lincoln LS V8 too. I think the newer (2005) mustangs share the same platform of the LS but aren't they still a rigid axle. Oh, Ford Sold Jaguar to Tata (india car company) last year or the year before.

Strandberg's salvage yard in Centuria WI specializes in Jags and Volvo's. Wouldn't be hard to find a rear end there.

Yeah, Jag's are now an Indian brand owned by Tata...Mustangs are still a solid rear axle, but with enough $$$, Roush will switch the rear end out to an independent suspension.

Top Gear tested the 2 versions, Ford Mustang Shelby vs a Roush Mustang (with much less HP), and the Roush beat the Shelby around the track.
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