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Offline TomLund

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just wondering
« on: January 09, 2011, 08:58:46 PM »
I should be getting this donor boat soon. I want to switch the motor and out drive plus controls. I have very limited knowledge on some of this and was wondering if anyone would like to help me with my the transplant. I will be going from a 6 to a 4 which i will have to figure out a motor mount set up. Thanks inadvance


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Offline Rich_V174SS

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Re: just wondering
« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2011, 09:09:41 PM »
I'd be happy to help with on-line questions. What year is your donor boat? Reconfiguring should be easy, the 4 cylinder engine if it's a 3.0 or 2.5 liter is about 6 inches shorter than the in-line 6 so the front motor mount plank needs to be moved back a little.
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Re: just wondering
« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2011, 09:16:38 PM »
Its a 80 browning with a 140 mercruiser the out drive is off because the owner said when they went out it made a loud cluncking noise which sounds like u joints to me but i am quess its pre alpha but not sure but it comes with everything boat motor out drive trailer for 500.oo


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Offline Rich_V174SS

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Re: just wondering
« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2011, 09:22:13 PM »
Mercruisers before 1983 are pre-Alpha. Clunking noises from the drive are not a good thing, could be U-joints and shaft bearing, bad upper gears, best case is an improperly adjusted or bad shift cable.
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Re: just wondering
« Reply #4 on: January 09, 2011, 09:48:46 PM »
Hey would a alpha bolt up to the plate on my 66 creastflight or would i have to change the plate as well. I have a ez shift


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Offline Rich_V174SS

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Re: just wondering
« Reply #5 on: January 09, 2011, 10:04:57 PM »
It might bolt up to your transom assembly but Alpha's don't have the two small lift assist pistons that you have on either side of your gimbal ring, those were discontinued in 1967. The drive shaft length from the engine to the drive is probably different, yours is most likely shorter. I'm also not sure if your main lift pistons will connect to the tail end of the drive properly. When I upgraded to an Alpha One drive I changed everything which included the transom assembly, trim system and steering cable.

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1967 V174 Crestflite SuperSport Modified
1987 Mercruiser 190 3.7LX/Alpha One

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1983 Mercury 115

Offline dorelse

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Re: just wondering
« Reply #6 on: January 09, 2011, 10:23:40 PM »
I am all for a weekend boat repair session...lord knows I'd love folks with more mechanical knowledge than I to give my work the once over...and I'd be happy to come up and offer whatever help I can to get you running Tom as well.

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Re: just wondering
« Reply #7 on: January 09, 2011, 10:38:50 PM »
I'm not sure when Mercruiser changed the cylinders to two lines, but an old boat I bought my son was a 65 or 66 model, and I changed the gimbal housing to use the newer style cylinders, that housing only had two  lines through it, and really small lift cylinders.
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Re: just wondering
« Reply #8 on: January 09, 2011, 10:52:09 PM »
The old single-hose cylinders were for tilt only (no trim) and were pressurized to lift the drive, gravity was used to lower the drive. There was a latching pawl and trim pin to lock the drive in the down position. My '67 V174 was originally like that and I hated it, couldn't adjust the trim on the fly and it often came unlocked when driving in reverse, the drive would swing up to the water surface. The cylinders with two hoses each were used from 1967 for trim but was an option, the boat had to be ordered with it. By 1973 two-hose trim cylinders were standard equipment but required a reverse lock-out valve on the hydraulic hoses which was controlled by the shift mechanism to prevent the drive from swinging up. The trim system was greatly improved when the Alpha gear came out in 1983, no reverse lock was required, the trim stayed where it was set and was much more reliable.
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1967 V174 Crestflite SuperSport Modified
1987 Mercruiser 190 3.7LX/Alpha One

1970 V176 Swinger
1983 Mercury 115

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Re: just wondering
« Reply #9 on: January 10, 2011, 07:27:05 AM »
Thanks Doran i will let you know.  Aslo thanks Rich you answered alot of questions.


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