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Offline carlsoncvx18

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Re: It's ours!
« Reply #20 on: August 12, 2012, 08:08:06 PM »
Sure it is the thermostat,
Is your gauge working?

Could be a sending unit.
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Re: It's ours!
« Reply #21 on: August 12, 2012, 08:41:25 PM »
No I'm not sure, but it's $7 at O'Reiley's, so might as well get a new one.  Brian suggested taking all the hoses off and using a coat hanger to try and loosen up a likely sand deposit, so I'll try that tomorrow.  The seller stated that all the guages have always worked perfect, and all the others do.  Brian also said that because hose water is so cold, it takes a long time to open up the thermostat, and I'll admit that when we feel the manifolds getting too hot to set and keep your hand on we chicken out and kill it so as not to overheat the engine.  Thanks for the suggestions!
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Re: It's ours!
« Reply #22 on: August 12, 2012, 08:51:47 PM »
Well...I have wimpy office worker hands and I can't keep my hand on my manifolds either...thermostat can take a bit to open up on cold hose water.

What's the gauge reading when you shut it down?
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Re: It's ours!
« Reply #23 on: August 12, 2012, 09:06:59 PM »
Not too likely that both the thermostat is sticking and the temp gage is reading incorrectly. Possible, but not likely. I think mine ran for close to 20 minutes on the muffs in the driveway before the stat opened up when I fired it up for the first time this season.
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Re: It's ours!
« Reply #24 on: August 12, 2012, 09:37:08 PM »
Any ideas on what we might do to test the gauge?  I'd feel a lot better about it if I knew what the temp really was, don't want to damage anything before we even get it in the water!
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Re: It's ours!
« Reply #25 on: August 12, 2012, 09:42:21 PM »
How long are letting it run?  Mine takes a while for the temp gauge to move ( like a minute).

Turn the water on and let it run for a while, I have even ran it with out the out drive on and no water for several minutes.
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Re: It's ours!
« Reply #26 on: August 12, 2012, 09:53:55 PM »
We're also running it without the drive engaged (it takes some throttling to get started, hoping it's just working through the ~11 gallons of 2 year old fuel it was stored with, and we filled her up with fresh non-oxy).  We've run it for about 10 minutes before shutting her off.  The water out of the 'pisser' hole and exhaust is hot (not scalding) so I know water is getting through, it just seems that one of the manifolds is plugged and the thermostat doesn't budge a bit.
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« Reply #27 on: August 12, 2012, 10:12:59 PM »
Brian's gonna come over at around 6:30PM tomorrow to do some troubleshooting, if anyone else want to show up I'll provide the beer and maybe grill up some burgers.  PM me or text me at 6 five 1 2 four five 3 six two 6 for the address, we're right on the southwest side of White Bear Lake by the marina.
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« Reply #28 on: August 12, 2012, 10:13:35 PM »
My thoughts are  - anything that could be the result of sitting for 2 years.  The cheapest fix first is the thermostat   Less than $8 and you will know.   If the temp gauge still don’t work, check under dash fuses ( I think there are 3 or 4 of them in the wire hardness by the steering wheel.  Unlikely though as other gauges are working.  I would also put a volt meter on the temp sending unit.  There is one wire coming from it toward the top/front of the motor on the intake.   Check the manual for voltages to look for.  You could also just get one new from the auto parts store also.  They are not expensive.   The Temp gauge always worked so i see no reason it should'nt.     Lastly, I would consider going to Twin City Outboard in Shakopee and getting a carb rebuild kit (gasket kits are not very expensive).  If nothing else, a disassembly of it and wash the parts and putting new gaskets in etc.  should solve any hard starting/or idling issues.  More than likely there is buildup from the old gas.  I know that boat pretty well as I worked on for years.  If I can help you solve issues, let me know.

Hope that helps you get it in the water.
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Re: It's ours!
« Reply #29 on: August 12, 2012, 10:17:39 PM »
Brian's gonna come over at around 6:30PM tomorrow to do some troubleshooting, if anyone else want to show up I'll provide the beer and maybe grill up some burgers.  PM me or text me at 6 five 1 2 four five 3 six two 6 for the address, we're right on the southwest side of White Bear Lake by the marina.

should be a good time!!!
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Re: It's ours!
« Reply #30 on: August 12, 2012, 10:43:52 PM »
I googled Chev 305 1980 temp sensors and found this...

http://www.ricksfreeautorepairadvice.com/repair-topics/computers-sensors/coolant-temperature-sensor-testing

I would put a volt meter on it cold and ignition power on.   Record the voltage.    Then watch it as the engine runs...as the temp rises, the voltage should go down.   I would confirm in the manual, but that seems correct.  The boat always ran about 140 degrees and the chart shows about 2-2.5 volts for that.

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« Reply #31 on: August 12, 2012, 10:56:17 PM »
Congrats, a nice looking boat.  It will shine like new with not much work with the right products.

Thermostat -  I bought a 91  19CSS that had sat for a few years, with a 350 mag mercruiser.  The thermostat was stuck open and the temp gauge would not go above 120 F while running it on water muffs in the driveway of the previous owner.  I replaced the thermostat (you will need a paper gasket to fit your merc) and the temperature moved to 162 F on the gauge. It should be about 160 to 165 F.

Left side hotter than right side-  These blocks are known to accumulate sand on the left side.  I opened up the left side block water drain (see maintenance manual), I had to insert a wire in order to get water to start coming out of the block.  Along with the water was a lot of sand and rusty debris.  Every fall for storage preparation, I drain the block and get more sand and debris out of the left side.

Lower Unit -  Replacing the rubber water pump is always a good idea, only use mercury parts for this.  Using Synthetic gear lube is also a good idea if you plan on running it hard, and protects the gears should water leak inside.

I would also drain the gas, replace the gas filter, put in fresh gas.  You can add a carb/injector cleaner additive to the gasoline, such as Techron made by Chevron.  Sea foam would be ok, but I don't use it.   I use Techron for my fuel injected cars and motorcycle, and it corrects misfiring in no time.  Don't use sea foam in anything with a catalytic converter.  It will ruin some types of catalytic converter metals.   A mechanic told me Sea Foam in late model corvettes results in a $1200.00 bill for replacing catalytic converters.

I would also check or replace the wheel bearings on the trailer.  Avoid a disaster on the highway.

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Re: It's ours!
« Reply #32 on: August 13, 2012, 05:29:57 PM »
I'll be arriving home around 7:30 or so with a new impeller, gear lube, and winch strap.  Is there anything else I should pickup from Hannay's while I'm there?  Thanks for the assistance so far, everyone!

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« Reply #33 on: August 13, 2012, 05:30:50 PM »
I'll be arriving home around 7:30 or so with a new impeller, gear lube, and winch strap.  Is there anything else I should pickup from Hannay's while I'm there?  Thanks for the assistance so far, everyone!

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Re: It's ours!
« Reply #34 on: August 13, 2012, 05:31:42 PM »
replace the gas filter


Crap, that's a good idea.  I wish I knew what size/type filter was on there right now...

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Re: It's ours!
« Reply #35 on: August 13, 2012, 05:45:51 PM »

Mike there are some parts for Oconnor there if you could grab them that would save me a trip over there
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Re: It's ours!
« Reply #36 on: August 13, 2012, 05:55:14 PM »
I always replace the drain/fill washers on the gear case drains.
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Re: It's ours!
« Reply #37 on: August 13, 2012, 06:30:15 PM »
You can test the temp gauge by turning on ignition and grounding sender wire.....gauge should peg...If the gauge pegs during test then the sender is bad......if not then the gauge is bad

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Re: It's ours!
« Reply #38 on: August 13, 2012, 09:13:04 PM »
Brian stopped over today; we pulled all the hoses and determined that water is not flowing to the upper manifolds, not enough water pressure.  So, we're going to change out the impeller, bought a new one and some lower unit oil and plan to take it to a guy the forum has recommended in the past, so I hope to hear back from him and have it running by Red Wing!
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« Reply #39 on: August 13, 2012, 10:17:23 PM »
Shawn, I asked if they had anything for "OConnor" and he said they didn't. 

Hopefully a new impeller does the trick.  After that we'll need to figure out why we can't idle.