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Offline Plugcheck

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Timi time
« on: November 27, 2017, 03:33:13 PM »
     Weather was great this past holiday weekend, and I needed some exercise from Thanksgiving, so I decided to put some time in the Timi.  Besides which, who cant get enough of looking at rotten transoms, floors, and stringers?   The stringers were encapsulated, but I make some test drilling with a 3/8" bit and found nearly the entire length was soaking weight.  Looks like water found its way in somehow, the staple holes to attach the floor might have something to do with it.  Spent about 4 hours start to finish, having a Stihl TS400 certainly saved a lot of time.  Cut up the pieces and put nearly all of it at the curb.  The 55 gallon fuel tank was a real hack job, and it looks like the Port side took a torpedo at the water line.  The previous patch is horrible.   Just need to final clean and grind then determine if I go composite or back to original with wood.   Cant find any composite suppliers here, and shipping is just too high to order 4x8 sheets.  The flotation foam on each side of the engine is in fine shape, but the two pocket areas in the stern were soaked and had to be disposed of.  Must have sat bow high for a long time. 
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Re: Timi time
« Reply #1 on: November 27, 2017, 05:23:55 PM »
Atta boy!
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Re: Timi time
« Reply #2 on: November 27, 2017, 11:18:49 PM »
There's some progress!  Good for you!  The weather has certainly been cooperating nicely.
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Re: Timi time
« Reply #3 on: November 28, 2017, 08:08:07 AM »
     I don't suffer the fiberglass "allergy" that some do, but I do get some minor irritation.  I've put off the project till now as I wanted it to be cooler, say 35-45 degrees so that wearing coveralls, respirator, hat, gloves, etc is more comfortable.   But the weather has been fantastic, so T-shirt, respirator, and jeans it is.    Personally I prefer to do the tear down outside as it saves the shop from billowing clouds of dust, could try a dust collector like Joe did, but don't own one.   Thought about making one either from a furnace fan or shop vac, but then that's time away from the actual work.   The task actually took longer to clean up the torn out stuff than to actually perform the tear out.   
    BTW, I suspect the top of the Timi weighs maybe 250lbs minus the engine cover, which is maybe 20-25lbs?  I used a four post lift, but the task could be easily handled by four people at the corners.   The top is now resting on another boat trailer with a bunch of 2x4's screwed together to support the top in 6 places.   
Michael
1979 CVZ-18 388 CI Vortec Mouse
1980 CVX-16SS 140 Mercruiser
1979 CVX-16 Johnson 175
2002 Bennington 2275CC 90 Mercury
1985 Intimidator project, gps 85 mph (on trailer)
1989 Lowe 200 Redneck fishin Toon

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Re: Timi time
« Reply #4 on: November 28, 2017, 10:15:03 AM »
Very cool indeed.

I am getting ready to pull the cap off my Timi also.....you beat me to it!!!  Thanks for the picks, was it easy cutting the fiberglass at the transom?

Good to know it is not too heavy, I plan to hoist it and hang it from the roof of my tent garage.

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Re: Timi time
« Reply #5 on: November 28, 2017, 10:44:31 AM »
   I used a sawzall at the transom while applying some lift.  The glass work that was done at the transom end is usually just a single layer and not bonded very well.  I suspect child labor laws we're broken to get a tiny person in there to place these prices.(just kidding). Depending upon former ownership, there will likely be about 5 gallons of rtv in a loose attempt at sealing against water intrusion.  This is where a little lifting is helpful.  In any case if the sawing becomes difficult, you may be cutting something you don't want to.  Good luck to ya!
Michael
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1980 CVX-16SS 140 Mercruiser
1979 CVX-16 Johnson 175
2002 Bennington 2275CC 90 Mercury
1985 Intimidator project, gps 85 mph (on trailer)
1989 Lowe 200 Redneck fishin Toon

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Re: Timi time
« Reply #6 on: November 28, 2017, 10:56:03 AM »
Thanks for the encouragement !!!!  I'll post some picks on the big day.  Sure will be nice when I hit the point where reconstruction begins.
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Re: Timi time
« Reply #7 on: November 29, 2017, 06:55:22 AM »
Good to hear two Timi's are being saved !
First time I've seen a Timi transom ... looks cool with the exhaust cut outs ...
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Re: Timi time
« Reply #8 on: November 29, 2017, 07:44:00 AM »
I'll have to admit, I never knew a Timi's exhaust was split like that, until I owned one.  Always figured the exhaust "trumpets" attached with hose directly to the manifolds.  My intermediate peices at the transom were completely rusted out, I'll need to make new ones.
Michael
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1980 CVX-16SS 140 Mercruiser
1979 CVX-16 Johnson 175
2002 Bennington 2275CC 90 Mercury
1985 Intimidator project, gps 85 mph (on trailer)
1989 Lowe 200 Redneck fishin Toon

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Re: Timi time
« Reply #9 on: December 09, 2017, 05:19:25 PM »
So I got back into town and decided to do some final grinding before cleaning and putting in new stringers, transom, and floor.  The transom had some remnants of wood stuck to it, so I thought I'd hit it with the large grinder.  Took the wood off quickly, but revealed a considerable thickness of what appears to be body filler.  Looks to be 3/8" thick.  Body fillers really have no structural strength, and this application has cracks all over it.   Question for the GC faithful, would you remove this and bond the transom wood to glass with peanut butter, epoxy, or some other type of adhesive.  Or would you leave what's there in place?  Have to admit it's a nice flat surface.
Michael
1979 CVZ-18 388 CI Vortec Mouse
1980 CVX-16SS 140 Mercruiser
1979 CVX-16 Johnson 175
2002 Bennington 2275CC 90 Mercury
1985 Intimidator project, gps 85 mph (on trailer)
1989 Lowe 200 Redneck fishin Toon

Offline carlsoncvx18

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Re: Timi time
« Reply #10 on: December 09, 2017, 06:22:01 PM »
When Kip and I did his we removed all the filler.

Used a rivet gun with a chisel bit, made quick work of the removal.
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Re: Timi time
« Reply #11 on: December 09, 2017, 06:41:54 PM »
I found that on the GT and the balharbor. On the GT I prob could have left it, on the balharbor it was chipping out. From the pix I would grind it out, but it is vary hard, unlike normal body filler


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Re: Timi time
« Reply #12 on: December 09, 2017, 07:49:41 PM »
My CV had it also, resin G/C used to bond/glue wood to hull ?
Also had it on deck where splash well attached to transom wood.
Jim ground out some or most of it on hull, how much I'm not sure ...
Seemed to squish out sides of where wood butted up against hull ( picture RPXO4 ).
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Re: Timi time
« Reply #13 on: December 09, 2017, 09:52:33 PM »
That sounds like the product I'm dealing with, seems to be harder and more sense than most fillers.  Maybe an early version of seacast?  Sounds like the consensus is to remove it.  I have a couple of ideas, I'll post some pics tomorrow with what worked best.  Odd, my CVZ had no such product, 79 vrs 85 the difference?  Supposed to be 55 degrees, hoping to hotsy out the hull and prep for moving it to the repair cradle.
Michael
1979 CVZ-18 388 CI Vortec Mouse
1980 CVX-16SS 140 Mercruiser
1979 CVX-16 Johnson 175
2002 Bennington 2275CC 90 Mercury
1985 Intimidator project, gps 85 mph (on trailer)
1989 Lowe 200 Redneck fishin Toon

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Re: Timi time
« Reply #14 on: December 09, 2017, 10:44:57 PM »
Phoenix has that hard layer. I opted to repair it rather than remove it do to the hardness of the product used.
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Re: Timi time
« Reply #15 on: December 10, 2017, 01:14:06 PM »
I removed the same product from my intimidator.

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Re: Timi time
« Reply #16 on: December 11, 2017, 11:28:58 AM »
Have you decided to replace with wood, or composite?

I started my project and am using Plascore composite material on everything but the transom.

I'll start a new thread for my project, but here's a sneak peak at my progress from the weekend:

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