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Offline V153

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Re: What would you get? (Dream Boat)
« Reply #20 on: November 26, 2011, 06:01:40 PM »
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Thoughts?
From what I understand the CV21 hull was designed around a jet drive. True or not hangin an IO on it might change the handling characteristics?
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Re: What would you get? (Dream Boat)
« Reply #21 on: November 26, 2011, 06:04:34 PM »
Quote from: V153 on November 26, 2011, 06:01:40 PM
From what I understand the CV21 hull was designed around a jet drive. True or not hangin an IO on it might change the handling characteristics?

All the literature that I've seen says that they designed it for a jet...  I'm really not sure what that means though.  The jet assemble is similar in weight to a stern drive, so that wouldn't change too much.

I know that a jet puts different pressures on the transom than a stern drive...  Maybe someone smarter than me can weigh in on this one.
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Re: What would you get? (Dream Boat)
« Reply #22 on: November 26, 2011, 06:08:39 PM »
That'd be a cool project for sure!  If I ever found a total basket case, I'd put a front 'rumble seat' in...never driven (or even ridden in) a jet, so I'm not sure how they're different.

Since they're banned at our favorite lake, I'd have to really think hard about owning one...
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Re: What would you get? (Dream Boat)
« Reply #23 on: November 26, 2011, 06:28:25 PM »
This wouldn't be a terrible place to start...  No reserve...


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1975-Glastron-Carlson-CV-21-jet-boat-project-NO-RESERVE-/220898048280?pt=Power_Motorboats&hash=item336e8cb918

If it were closer, I might just do it...  But, I have a project to finish already...
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Re: What would you get? (Dream Boat)
« Reply #24 on: November 26, 2011, 06:41:55 PM »
Isn't that the one that had a tree fall on it?  Dunno...that's too much damage for me...

There's an Orange/White CV-21 one in MO that shows up on CL all the time...there's also a Blue/Lt. Blue Scimitar in Eastern IA that appears every spring...

The boat isn't the problem, its paying for the 2nd garage!  :D
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Re: What would you get? (Dream Boat)
« Reply #25 on: November 26, 2011, 07:10:41 PM »
I guess that I would be really happy with a scimitar, CV-21, intimidator, CVX-18, CV-23, or CV-21.  I would even like a CV-19ss.

I have a long time to look, and there isno real hurry.  I sent an e-mail to Bob and Jeremy Probst to get their viewpoints on the hull transformation on re-power.  The e-bay photo's on that tree damaged boat were great to see the transom.  The intake grate section would provide some interesting dynamics, but it looks like a pretty standard keel setup.


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Re: What would you get? (Dream Boat)
« Reply #26 on: November 26, 2011, 07:18:57 PM »
As a side note, while digging for fun stuff on my computer about CV-21's, I came across this video that I never posted...

Come along with me on a nite time ride in Bob's highly modified CV-21 with twin LS1 powered jets...

HOLD ON! (Don't forget to turn your speakers up!)

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Re: What would you get? (Dream Boat)
« Reply #27 on: November 26, 2011, 07:23:50 PM »
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I would be really happy with a scimitar, CV-21, intimidator, CVX-18, CV-23, or CV-21
You said CV21 twice. It's okay I do it too ...
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Re: What would you get? (Dream Boat)
« Reply #28 on: November 26, 2011, 07:38:17 PM »
Since we're all showing the CV-21 some love:

http://columbus.craigslist.org/boa/2640878780.html
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Re: What would you get? (Dream Boat)
« Reply #29 on: November 26, 2011, 07:44:12 PM »
And...since we're loving the Scimitar too...Old Red's bro's (George?) Scimitar is back on the market:

http://sacramento.craigslist.org/boa/2717747835.html
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Re: What would you get? (Dream Boat)
« Reply #30 on: November 26, 2011, 08:35:34 PM »
Quote from: V153 on November 26, 2011, 07:23:50 PM
Quote from: Administrator on November 26, 2011, 07:10:41 PM
I would be really happy with a scimitar, CV-21, intimidator, CVX-18, CV-23, or CV-21
You said CV21 twice. It's okay I do it too ...

Maybe It's cause I would be twice as happy with a 21!  :)
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Re: What would you get? (Dream Boat)
« Reply #31 on: November 26, 2011, 09:04:30 PM »
Since we are dreaming!!!


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Re: What would you get? (Dream Boat)
« Reply #32 on: November 26, 2011, 09:09:55 PM »
Ha!  I was thinking about starting this thread a few weeks ago, except mine was "what boat would you buy immediately if it was up for sale?"

I know what mine is.  Shaun (Grinder)'s CVX-18.  Same color and year as my CVX-16 but a little larger and faster.  Oh yeah, I would buy that in an instant. 
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Re: What would you get? (Dream Boat)
« Reply #33 on: November 26, 2011, 10:18:14 PM »
The CV-21 was offered in a stern drive in 1971.  Do not remember where I saw the brochure.  I may have it somewhere.  I also have seen it in a V-drive that was on Ebay some time back.  I have ridden in Both of Bob's CV-21's and they both are a kick in the pants!  Both highly modified.  Would love to make mine dance like that!!








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Re: What would you get? (Dream Boat)
« Reply #34 on: November 26, 2011, 10:27:48 PM »
Quote from: Administrator on November 26, 2011, 07:18:57 PM
As a side note, while digging for fun stuff on my computer about CV-21's, I came across this video that I never posted...

Come along with me on a nite time ride in Bob's highly modified CV-21 with twin LS1 powered jets...

HOLD ON! (Don't forget to turn your speakers up!)



Man-O-Man .. I Love the harmonic's of those two motors at the very first of that video, sounds just like my old airplane when I could get the motors syncronized ... that is Some boat !
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Re: What would you get? (Dream Boat)
« Reply #35 on: November 26, 2011, 11:00:01 PM »
Keep in mind, the CV23 was designed as a jet boat. The grate area is still molded on the bottom, unlike the Scimitar which was designed as an I/O.  There is no problem of speed and handling of a CV23 I/O.  Therefore a CV21 should also make a good I/O.  If there were any CV 21 I/O's built, they probably would have been Glastron powered which was Volvo/Ford without trim, so that hull would also take extensive modification.
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Re: What would you get? (Dream Boat)
« Reply #36 on: November 26, 2011, 11:00:33 PM »
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Maybe It's cause I would be twice as happy with a 21!

Hey Brian, according to this artical from power boat magizine, the CV-21 hull is particuarly designed for a jet drive and a heavy motor, I've never really checked one out to see the difference, but I do know when you get a hull out of "balance" it takes some engineering to correct it, that being said, it would be interesting to set one up with a hot little small bolck Chevy and a Mercruiser I/O, modifying the jet section to a wider pad.




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Re: What would you get? (Dream Boat)
« Reply #37 on: November 26, 2011, 11:19:59 PM »
Tough question, I like so many of them, but I think my all time favorite Carlson is the 1977 CVX-20 Deluxe Jet, Orange Flake, pristine original inside & out (favorite interior pattern), 460 engine.  Currently trying to restore its battle scarred younger brother with the 455 olds, but if I ever find a pristine original '77 that is not 2000 miles away, I would like to acquire.

Another one I think would be great fun to build/run...  a 1972 CV-19 OB, Green Flake; get one in ok condition, good windshield & hardware, but rough finish and interior, totally restore with new flake gel, interior, panel gauges, light modifications, late model large Mercury outboard (175), push mid 60s I'm guessing?  Is that a stable hull, pad to ride on?  I think that boat would look awesome keeping pace with all/some of its big bore brothers out there.  Can't wait to see Steve's finished product!

The CV-21 & CV-23s are awesome as well?  where does it end?  :-/   ;D    
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Re: What would you get? (Dream Boat)
« Reply #38 on: November 27, 2011, 12:06:39 AM »
Quote from: OleRed on November 26, 2011, 11:00:33 PM
Hey Brian, according to this artical from power boat magizine, the CV-21 hull is particuarly designed for a jet drive and a heavy motor, I've never really checked one out to see the difference, but I do know when you get a hull out of "balance" it takes some engineering to correct it, that being said, it would be interesting to set one up with a hot little small bolck Chevy and a Mercruiser I/O, modifying the jet section to a wider pad.

Here is the entire article







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Re: What would you get? (Dream Boat)
« Reply #39 on: November 27, 2011, 07:34:42 AM »
HAY Mark ...

CV19 O/B in Texas
http://forum.cgoamn.com/index.php?topic=2351.0


The 1971 CV19 was offered a I/O or Jet, 1972 was also.
The 1971 CV21 was jet only according to brochure.




A CV21 I/O would be an awsome ride !

 

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