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Re: '89 Glastron Carlson 23CSS Project and Repair
« Reply #120 on: December 10, 2018, 02:40:02 PM »
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Re: '89 Glastron Carlson 23CSS Project and Repair
« Reply #121 on: December 10, 2018, 03:17:26 PM »
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Re: '89 Glastron Carlson 23CSS Project and Repair
« Reply #122 on: December 10, 2018, 04:48:09 PM »
Looks Great!

its giving me inspiration for me when I finally get a garage to work in!
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Re: '89 Glastron Carlson 23CSS Project and Repair
« Reply #123 on: December 10, 2018, 07:51:48 PM »
Nice work !

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Re: '89 Glastron Carlson 23CSS Project and Repair
« Reply #124 on: December 10, 2018, 09:12:07 PM »
Nice job!
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Re: '89 Glastron Carlson 23CSS Project and Repair
« Reply #125 on: December 11, 2018, 07:50:34 AM »
Really came out great, should last a lifetime, barring any physical damage.   Also good to know you didn't have any issues spraying with the wood stove going.   I seem to remember the VC having a shelf life even when not mixed, 6mos to a year?  I ended up spraying all of it, in similiar fashion to you, with a bit more on the edges at the transom.   How long do you plan to "harden" it before flipping back over? 
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Re: '89 Glastron Carlson 23CSS Project and Repair
« Reply #126 on: December 11, 2018, 09:41:37 AM »
Looking good!
That's not a CGOAMN calendar on the wall. :o
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Re: '89 Glastron Carlson 23CSS Project and Repair
« Reply #127 on: December 11, 2018, 09:49:04 AM »
haha good eye Jason, thanks everyone!
That's exactly what I was aiming for. Don't particularly want to flip the hull again!
I did leave the door and window open while I was spraying to help with air circulation.
I believe you are right with a short shelf life, the extra I am hoping to use on the inside, either the floor and sides or in the bilge, just to use it up as long as there is enough for one coat, don't want to throw away the leftover paint!
It'll be around 12 days after the final coat when I have time to flip it back over
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Re: '89 Glastron Carlson 23CSS Project and Repair
« Reply #128 on: December 11, 2018, 10:18:27 AM »
     Funny, I wasn't the only one that noticed the calendar?    I know the VC does take a little time to harden, I let mine sit that way all summer.   Not because it needed it, but summer is for boating, and winter is for fixing boats.    I believe 3-5 days at decent temp above 50 F will allow it to harden just fine.   Now if your interested, the VC can be sanded and buffed to a really slick finish, though I'm unsure what advantage that would be on our crafts.   I've heard on racing sailboats it does have an advantage.   
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Re: '89 Glastron Carlson 23CSS Project and Repair
« Reply #129 on: December 11, 2018, 01:21:42 PM »
Multiple studies have ben done and a smooth finish is not faster.

Good job on spraying it looks pretty good.
I think this has become an addiction.


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Re: '89 Glastron Carlson 23CSS Project and Repair
« Reply #130 on: December 11, 2018, 01:43:19 PM »
I was pretty impressed at how hard that VC got even 12 hours after a coat, for how thick it went on.
I'm sure this will go fast enough, I'm not trying for any records.
Is it similar to the dimples on a golf ball then? That would be quite the ugly hull if they were designed that way
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Re: '89 Glastron Carlson 23CSS Project and Repair
« Reply #131 on: December 12, 2018, 11:49:51 AM »
Correct on the golf ball. There have also been studies where they actually scuffed the hull with sand paper. What happens is it traps air from my understanding and the water flows across it with less drag. If you see the boats with stepped hulls that is why, it is so air can get underneath and lessen the friction of the hull.
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Re: '89 Glastron Carlson 23CSS Project and Repair
« Reply #132 on: December 12, 2018, 01:09:04 PM »
I've read that a ruff surface on bottom will let water molecules adhere to surface and water on water is faster then gel on water.
Lightly sanding with some #800 grit paper would be fastest.
Your better off leaving it smooth and waxed, easier to keep clean. 

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Re: '89 Glastron Carlson 23CSS Project and Repair
« Reply #133 on: January 02, 2019, 09:25:19 AM »
Got it flipped back over! piece of cake second time round on the rotisserie.
I also added a keel guard while it was on its back, I've installed them while the boats on the trailer and I tell ya, it is MUCH nicer installing one when the boat is upside down haha

Also built a dolly frame for it to make moving it around easier.

here's a couple pics!
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Re: '89 Glastron Carlson 23CSS Project and Repair
« Reply #134 on: January 02, 2019, 10:48:21 AM »
I use a similiar method for flipping, but this last time with a 6' step ladder and the cherry picker.  Generally it's me by myself, or Tim to help.  Looks like your making great progress, will you be ready when the water softens?
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Re: '89 Glastron Carlson 23CSS Project and Repair
« Reply #135 on: January 02, 2019, 01:03:39 PM »
Huge job ...
But your making great progress !

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Re: '89 Glastron Carlson 23CSS Project and Repair
« Reply #136 on: January 03, 2019, 07:42:20 AM »
Thanks!
I am hoping to have it in the water this year. We'll see how that goes
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Re: '89 Glastron Carlson 23CSS Project and Repair
« Reply #137 on: February 06, 2019, 02:09:04 PM »
So I've made a bit more progress the last few weekends. This is a huge project.
I installed the depth finder transducer in the floor at the bow of the boat, under the cuddy floor. This transducer is for the in dash finder, my GPS also has a depth readout that will be mounted on the transom, so I thought it could be pretty handy having one up at the bow too, just to keep an eye on depth in shallow waters!!
Hopefully it never fails because its now foamed in and under the floor. LOL
Also made the front seat supports, I ended up reusing the pieces of hardwood they used from the factory, added support under them and glued and screwed in place. They are rock solid.
As you can also see I am using aluminum angle to run across from the outside stringers. My main stringers are short because of the LVL's so the aluminum works perfect to keep the same level without adding extra wood and weight. Lots of support above the tank and for the entire floor. The pink foam panels are just to keep the expanding foam away from the center tank area.
Also put expanding foam down the center of the hull, about 2-3" thick and sanded it flat, then put a layer of glass on top of it to create the lowest floor section. This is for the tank to sit on, and the lowest floor in the cuddy for your feet.
Picked up a sheet of 3/8 Nida Core honeycomb to test out in the cuddy, The stuff is really cool, easy to cut and fit, really light etc, it does take a lot of resin though. I put a layer of mat on the underside and glued down in the cuddy at the same time I put foam in. Will be putting 1708 on top to tie it all together to the hull.

Slow by surely its coming!!
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Re: '89 Glastron Carlson 23CSS Project and Repair
« Reply #138 on: February 10, 2019, 09:15:08 AM »
The forward mounted depth finder more than likely will not read. It needs to have constant contact with no air gap. Where you mounted it it will barely be in the water when the boat is resting. The second you give it any gas it will be out of the water. Also how did you mount it to the hull. If there is any air trapped below it it also will not read.
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Re: '89 Glastron Carlson 23CSS Project and Repair
« Reply #139 on: February 11, 2019, 03:09:59 PM »
I used cabosil resin mix and made sure there was no air gaps, I’m not too concerned if it doesn’t read while planing as I will have a transducer on the transom as well. More for trolling in shallow waters. Getting to shore where we go boating can be pretty tricky.
If it doesn’t work then oh well, I’ll swap the gauge out for something else. 


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