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CV16, CVX16, Metric & 16CSS history
« on: November 15, 2016, 01:52:59 PM »
My best guess on CV16, CVX16, Metric & 16CSS  history ... Feel free to add or correct ...

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Info on CV , CVX & Metric windshield is here ...  http://forum.cgoamn.com/index.php?topic=2901.0

Info on CV , CVX & Metric steering wheels is here  ...  http://forum.cgoamn.com/index.php?topic=8112.0

Info on CV , CVX & Metric serial numbers and HIN is here  ...  http://forum.cgoamn.com/index.php?topic=5964.0

Info on Emblems & Decals is here ...  https://forum.cgoamn.com/index.php?topic=7978.0

Info on Glastron/Carlson rub rails is here ... https://forum.cgoamn.com/index.php?topic=3856.0

Info on Gel and Flake is here ...  http://forum.cgoamn.com/index.php?topic=6489.0

Info on Glastron Carlson Conroy trailers is here ...  http://forum.cgoamn.com/index.php?topic=2920.new#new

Glastron/Carlson CV16 & CVX16 Tests ..  https://forum.cgoamn.com/index.php?topic=2924.0


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Info on Glastron Carlson seats ..

CV seats ...  http://forum.cgoamn.com/index.php?topic=7005.0

CVX button style seats ...  http://forum.cgoamn.com/index.php?topic=7003.0

CVX Barrel back seats ...  http://forum.cgoamn.com/index.php?topic=7007.0

GT160 seats used in some 1976 CV16's ...  http://forum.cgoamn.com/index.php?topic=7006.0

Vinyl / Pleating / Flooring ..  https://forum.cgoamn.com/index.php?topic=6883.0




Late 1968 - Early 1969

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Sidewinder / Schuster / Tahiti     

      Schuster and a guy named Gil Gaska, who both worked in Paramount at
      Powercat boats were watching an off shore race off the coast of Long Beach
      from the pier. All the boats were getting pounded and beating the drivers
      up good except for the new Glastron with the 'aqua lift ' bottom. Schuster
      liked the way it rode and borrowed a brand new Glastron, taped off how
      high he wanted the sides to be, gaska put the little design thing on the
      side of the hull in hardboard and they splashed a mold off it. Harlin Orin
      lived down the street from Gaska, as did Howard Brown, my folks and so on
      and all this was around the block from Bob Masseys shop which would become
      the Tahiti shop, across the street from Mr Weimans place on Lakewood
      blvd in bewteen Ashworth and Rose street, 'bout a mile away from Artesia.
      In between that time it was Jerry Wriedts place too before he moved to a
      bigger shop. Harlan helped with that first mold too.

      Gaska tooled up the little deck on the now 'Tahiti' bottom and the rest is
      history. Schuster gave his brother in law, Ken Baker, a bottom to start
      his own boat deal and that became Sidewinder boats, the one with the wrap
      around windshield ...

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Glastron / Carlson vs Sidewinder
More info on link below ...

SIDEWINDER MARINE, INC. v. STARBUCK KUSTOM BOATS & PROD., INC.
http://www.leagle.com/decision/1976642418FSupp224_1596/SIDEWINDER%20MARINE,%20INC.%20v.%20STARBUCK%20KUSTOM%20BOATS%20&%20PROD.,%20INC

In October, 1969, Mr. Baker sent a prototype of a boat called "Super Sidewinder 16" to the Chicago Boat Show, where it was well received. The primary significance of the Super Sidewinder 16 was that it combined the readily apparent features of a high performance speed boat with such safety features as raised gunwales and a deep V hull.

Among those attending the Chicago Boat Show was Robert R. Hammond, president of Glastron Boat Company of Austin, Texas, one of the largest makers of pleasure power boats in the United States. Mr. Hammond commented to Mr. Baker upon the similarity of the Super Sidewinder with a boat which Glastron was preparing to market. Mr. Hammond followed this conversation with a letter, dated October 6, 1969, forwarding four photographs of a full sized mock-up which he said had been finished four or five months before, and Mr. Hammond ended his letter with these words: "Now don't go say we've been copying!"

It is clear from the evidence that Glastron developed the kind of deep V hull used in the Super Sidewinder and that this hull design was in the public domain for several years before 1969.

The evidence indicates that there is significant unity of design in automobiles and pleasure boats. The wraparound windshield was used in automobile design long before this subject patent application.

The lateral aspect of the subject design patent as shown in Figure 2 has a similarity to the lines used by a cabin cruiser manufacturer to identify it in advertising and boating publications as early as 1965.

Glastron did make and market its similar boat in 1970. In October, 1970, counsel for Sidewinder Marine, Inc. sent notices to Glastron and others to inform them that the design patent would issue in November, 1970, that their boats were considered to infringe and to offer license agreements. Subsequently, Mr. Baker notified Mr. Hammond that Sidewinder did not claim the Glastron boat to be infringing.
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Re: CV16 history
« Reply #1 on: July 01, 2017, 12:31:21 AM »
Some where in 1970 ...
The ad states "No Options".
Navigation lights are on corners by wind shield.
Cleats are half way up deck.
Nothing about color, but Carlson had Apricot/Blue/Marigold for options.
Dates on two articles 1970, boat test has same Nav. light/cleat location.
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Re: CV16 history
« Reply #2 on: July 01, 2017, 12:35:48 AM »
1971 CV16 ...

Sand with Apricot or Green ... Same year CV19 color is listed as "Lakewood Avocado"
Foot note in brochure " On Carlson boats, lights, windshield and padded dash are optional "
Early CV had hull/decks and rub rail joined with rivet's until 1974.
Can't find an exact date for the start of operations at the Anaheim factory.
There is a picture of it in the 1972 brochure though.
The 1970 CV16 must have been built at the Carlson Garden Grove factory
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Re: CV16 history
« Reply #3 on: August 03, 2022, 07:21:25 PM »
1972 CV16 ...
Colors were Sand with Blue or Gold.
Windshield, Nav. lights and padded dash were standard.
The CV16SS was new in Sand with Gold.
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Re: CV16 history
« Reply #4 on: November 20, 2023, 10:45:47 PM »
1973 CV16 ...
Colors were White with Blue or Apricot.
Looks like same boat with the addition of White hull instead of sand and Apricot flake.
Guessing some Apricot CV's were built in late 1972 ...
CV16SS were White with Gold or Apricot.


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Re: CV16 history
« Reply #5 on: November 20, 2023, 10:49:20 PM »
All 1973 and earlier CV's had the GT emblem on there deck.
1974 and latter had the CV deck emblem.
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Re: CV16 history
« Reply #6 on: November 20, 2023, 10:53:42 PM »
1974 CV16 ...

CV16 colors were White with Green or Plum
Big changes in 74 for the outboard ...
CV16SS style windshield with bottom aluminum bar, plastic dash, hump in deck,
18 gal. fuel tank under bow, G/C sticker/ wood grain strip replaces
COOL alu. G/C plate on stern and the deck emblem changed from the "GT" to the "CV'.
But didn't get the recess around gas filler that all CV16SS's have.
CV16SS colors were White with Green or Blue.
First year of the full wrap around plastic dash on the CV16SS.
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Re: CV16 history
« Reply #7 on: November 20, 2023, 11:22:31 PM »
1975 CV16 ...

Colors were White with Blue or Plum.
No changes from 1974.
CV16SS was White with Bronze.
Also unchanged.

This was the first year of the CV16V8 ...
Color was White and Plum.

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Re: CV16 history
« Reply #8 on: November 20, 2023, 11:23:59 PM »
1975 CV16  / CV16SS  /  CV16V8 spec's

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Re: CV16 history
« Reply #9 on: November 20, 2023, 11:36:53 PM »
1976 was the last year of the CV's ...
CV16 were White & Red or Light Blue & Blue ...
CV16SS were White & Red or Silver & Gray
CV16V8 were White & Orange


Steering wheel changed on all models.

Seats have a quilted pattern, knee pad above splash well isn't pleated.

There was color options in 1976, could have been color options in other years also ...

CV16 Super Factory options :
Silver or Orange metalflake
$145.00 list price

CV16SS / CV16V8 Factory options :
4 cyl. : Orange or Blue
V8 : Silver or Red
$145.00 list price

There was also the CV's with the GT160 seat .. Could have come from factory
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Re: CV16 history
« Reply #10 on: November 20, 2023, 11:37:56 PM »
CV16 prices ..

1970 CV16 $1499
1971 CV16 $1599
1972 CV16 $1699
1973 CV16 $1899
1974 ( Nov 1973 ) CV16 $1949
1974 (Aug. 1973) CV16 $2149
1975 CV16 $2389

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Re: CV16 history
« Reply #11 on: November 20, 2023, 11:51:15 PM »
Weights

CV16 .. @ 700 lbs.

CV16SS = @ 1450 lbs.

CV16V8 = @ 1625 lbs.
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Re: CV16 history
« Reply #12 on: November 21, 2023, 11:34:55 AM »
Data plates were on the throttle board for 1970 & 1971 models.
Plate was moved to lower right side of steering wheel for 1972 & 1973 models.
Mid year 1973 had dash plate and HIN on stern.
For the 1974 to 1976 model years there was a HIN on right side of stern and a plate on lower left of dash

The HIN (Hull identification number) was a federal requirement beginning in Nov 1972, for 1973 model boats. It starts with a 3 letter Manufacturer identification code, followed by a 5 digit serial number and ending with the date of manufacture. The reason for this requirement was for safety and defect recalls. The law allowed for two methods of display. The one Glastron chose was to list the model year M and then a letter for the month of manufacture. August was the traditional first month of building new model year boats so A= August, B=Sept, etc.

The CV16SS had plate on throttle board for 1972 & early 1973 models.
After mid 1973 the plate changed to this and HIN was on stern.
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Re: CV16 history
« Reply #13 on: November 21, 2023, 12:17:39 PM »
For the 1977 model year the CV was dropped and a compleatly new CVX design was started.
Hull was changed from the "Aqua - Lift" to a "Pad" design, deck was changed and a bucket front seats and rear bench.
There was three versions, CVX16, CVX16 Deluxe & CVX16SS

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Re: CV16 history
« Reply #14 on: November 21, 2023, 12:21:09 PM »
1977 CVX16 P.I.G.'s

August 1976 price & spec's

January 1977 price & spec's

CVX16 & CVX16 Deluxe tags
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Re: CV16 & CVX16 history
« Reply #15 on: November 21, 2023, 01:36:33 PM »
Same boats for 1978, with some color changes

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Re: CV16 & CVX16 history
« Reply #16 on: November 21, 2023, 01:38:27 PM »
1978 CVX16 P.I.G.'s

1978 Price & spec's

1978 Data plate

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Re: CV16 & CVX16 history
« Reply #17 on: November 21, 2023, 03:01:04 PM »
1979 were same boat with some color changes and button style seats

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Re: CV16 & CVX16 history
« Reply #18 on: November 21, 2023, 03:47:53 PM »
1980 CVX16's  ..

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Re: CV16 & CVX16 history
« Reply #19 on: November 21, 2023, 03:51:28 PM »
1980 Glastron Carlson small parts catalog ...