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Re: Hey guys......update on my CV16SS/Super
« Reply #20 on: June 18, 2010, 12:16:10 AM »
Back on the engine transom bracket on the port side there is a switch kinda like a light dimmer switch with a lever on it that sends the signal to the gauge to show the the driver the trim angel while under way, also lets you know when the engine is fully tilted up or all the way down with out having to look back at the motor.

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Re: Hey guys......update on my CV16SS/Super
« Reply #21 on: June 18, 2010, 12:18:10 AM »
I found where that is on the Starboard side of the trim system.  Wondered what that was for!
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Re: Hey guys......update on my CV16SS/Super
« Reply #22 on: June 19, 2010, 07:23:11 AM »
Wow
Lots of work but its paying off nicely!
Question about the seats...did you modify/cut the bases so you could slide them over further? If so you must have removed the vinyl, cut the wood and reattached it? I am thinking bout doing this.
Ross
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Re: Hey guys......update on my CV16SS/Super
« Reply #23 on: June 20, 2010, 01:11:52 PM »
These bases are a High Impact Plastic so they were somewhat easy to modify.  You can see where I marked them with a Sharpie.  I took 2 inches of heighth (sp) off and then measured from the top 5" down for the outboard side and 8" down on the inboard side then marked close to the center and drew my lines.  I cut a piece of cardboard first to fit it to the shape of the floor and to make a template.  Cut it with a jigsaw and used 3 L-brackets purchased at Home Depot for decking.  drilled my holes through the bases and bolted the brackets on first, then placed the bace down to the floor and screwed it down with stainless wood screws.  Bolted on the seats and done!!!  You can see where I made a few mistakes but since they're only a temporary fix until I get the wooden OEM style seats done, they'll suffice!

I floated the boat yesterday and she floats......but until I get the synchronization done on the motor I'm not going very fast!!!!  So now I have to learn how to do that on this big Merc 1500.  My local boat shop might make some money off me this week.......
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Re: Hey guys......update on my CV16SS/Super
« Reply #24 on: June 23, 2010, 03:22:41 PM »
Local shop, being the only one in a 50 mile radius, won't be able to touch my boat until Mid July!  So I'm forced to attempt to do a Link and Sync on my own.  I have to get it done by Monday so I have my work cut out for me and since I don't have a lake that isn't wakeless in a 50 mile radius I'm going to attempt this in a stocktank full of water.  Here goes........
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Re: Hey guys......update on my CV16SS/Super
« Reply #25 on: June 23, 2010, 04:33:45 PM »
This is from ClamsCanino. Worked great for my 73 1500.



Manual specs are different for each, but this is close enough to get them
all REAL close. This assumes nothing is broken or "wrong" with it. This also
assumes that the timing pointer is properly adjusted (if adjustable) to
accurately read TDC of the #1 piston.

This basic procedure will work for all the 2/3/4/6 cylinder inlines from
1960 to 1988. It's not for the newer 3 and 4 cylinder loopers.

Engine off

Disconnect throttle cable

Pull throttle arm to full throttle and verify carbs open fully. Adjust main
throttle stop so that the carbs are JUST hitting thier own little throttle
stops. The idea here is that you want the screw stop and NOT the carbs
acting as the "final stop" for your throttle lever.

Return the throttle to idle, carbs should be closed. Set all idle screws to
2 turns out from lightly seated.

Remove all plugs except #1, hook a timing light to #1. Then follow the
narritive.

When the throttle is in the idle position the carbs should be fully closed
and the ignition retarded. It is the amount of retardation that determines
your idle speed and is set later with the idle stop screw.

Timing Event One - throttle pickup.
As the throttle is advanced, the spark timing advances toward TDC and then
to before TDC. As the timing is just passing TDC the 1st (minor)throttle
pickup should hit and start to open the carbs. Use the timing light. Adjust
the tang or trigger screw to make this a reality. All of them are spec'd
different, but if the 1st pickup hits at 3-4 degrees BTDC advance - you win.
Use the timing light with a friend cranking it to complete this setting.

Timing Event Two - max advance.
As you continue to advance the throttle the timing will advance while the
carbs slowly open a bit more. The next adjustment is max advance, this is
the point where the distibutor (or trigger) can advance no more. Set the
max-advance stop to 21 degrees for "direct charge" inlines and 34 degrees
for the older crossflows. Use the light, - err to the side of caution.

Right after max advance, further throttle motion should cause the second
throttle pickup to hit and open the carbs to full. You already set that -now
verify it.

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Re: Hey guys......update on my CV16SS/Super
« Reply #26 on: June 23, 2010, 04:43:42 PM »
Thanks Dan,

I haven't messed with the carbs or the distributor so I'm assuming everything should be close.  It simply came off of one boat and was installed onto mine.  Different controls though they are similar.  So I'm thinking it's going to be easy.

How long did it take for you to Link and Sync yours?
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« Reply #27 on: June 24, 2010, 09:28:05 AM »
I really don't remember how long it took, just that it was worth every bit of time. I had a bog going from idle to WOT. There's no bog now! I would guess it took an hour or so. I may be way off on that though.
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Re: Hey guys......update on my CV16SS/Super
« Reply #28 on: June 24, 2010, 08:57:50 PM »
I really don't remember how long it took, just that it was worth every bit of time. I had a bog going from idle to WOT. There's no bog now! I would guess it took an hour or so. I may be way off on that though.

Hey Jim
Maybe that has something to do with your bogging problem on the SSV?
Ross
61 Surflite 1964 90HP Johnson project
67 V163 Bayflite Super Sport  1989 100HP Merc
67 V164 Bayflite 120HP
67 V174 Crestflite Rat Rod
71 V175 Crestflite 350ci -Jet
73 GT 160
84 CVX 17  83 115 Merc
88 CVX-23 350 Mag

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Re: Hey guys......update on my CV16SS/Super
« Reply #29 on: June 25, 2010, 10:23:06 AM »

Hey Jim
Maybe that has something to do with your bogging problem on the SSV?


Thanks for thinking of me Ross,
I have already printed it out & discussed with Steve.
We will be pulling carbs & checking jets as soon as Steve gets caught-up with all his projects.
I really hate to bother him when his boat is still in winter storage  :P
Also, will check timing & sync.
Jim
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Re: Hey guys......update on my CV16SS/Super
« Reply #30 on: June 28, 2010, 04:23:34 PM »
OK guys, I've sych'd my linkage and I've checked my timing......my air/fuel mixture was off and was a little skinny!  I turned them out 1/2 turn each fatter and now it jumps out of the water when I hit the throttle!

So suddenly I'm onto the next issue.......

I found some gouges in the hull along the keel of the bow.  They look like they're from the PO not loading properly and scraping the trailer, or possibly running aground on a rock somewhere.  They penetrate at least halfway through and I have exposed and damaged fiberglass showing.  This is where I'm sure some water is leaking through over the course of a day.  So here's my question:

Can I mix up some Peanut Butter with fiberglass strands and use that as a patch that can be sanded down?
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Re: Hey guys......update on my CV16SS/Super
« Reply #31 on: June 28, 2010, 05:54:05 PM »
I have done some patching on the underside with a simple resin filler.  There is a local sailing shop that had a compound in a little 2 ounce tube.  You mix the entire tube and use a squeege to fill int he gouge.

It depends on how wide it is, but you might look into a patch / filler for the underside.  You don't have to be so specific on matching colors down there.
Brian
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1977 CVX-20 Deluxe (Silver Fox)
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Re: Hey guys......update on my CV16SS/Super
« Reply #32 on: July 04, 2010, 03:14:13 PM »
OK guys, I've sych'd my linkage and I've checked my timing......my air/fuel mixture was off and was a little skinny!  I turned them out 1/2 turn each fatter and now it jumps out of the water when I hit the throttle!

So suddenly I'm onto the next issue.......

I found some gouges in the hull along the keel of the bow.  They look like they're from the PO not loading properly and scraping the trailer, or possibly running aground on a rock somewhere.  They penetrate at least halfway through and I have exposed and damaged fiberglass showing.  This is where I'm sure some water is leaking through over the course of a day.  So here's my question:

Can I mix up some Peanut Butter with fiberglass strands and use that as a patch that can be sanded down?
,,what year is that boat????here are some pics of my boat,,1979 cvx16 carlson and a 74 hydrostrem vector


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Re: Hey guys......update on my CV16SS/Super
« Reply #33 on: July 10, 2010, 11:46:48 PM »
yes Michael mine is a '74 CV16.

So after purchasing a new water pump kit because mine puked in the middle of the lake we changed it out at the camping spot at the lake and when I put it back together I forgot to put it in FWD gear and somehow disengaged Neutral and Reverse all together.  I only had Forward!  I trailered it and will be pulling it apart sometime this week.  We spent 10 days in Ogallala, NE at Lake McConaughy.  We're tired, sun burned, and covered with sand from the beachy shores.  I'll post pictures of the "TubToy" on the lake in a couple of days.

She ran like the dickens when she was running though........but I need some knowledge about something.  She was running 52mph at 4200 rpm.  Am I propped wrong or is there something on the topend that I'm missing?
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Re: Hey guys......update on my CV16SS/Super
« Reply #34 on: July 11, 2010, 12:28:47 PM »
Did you over heat or notice no telltale/water before it over heated?
10 day vacation...nice. Sounds like you got some use out of the boat and had fun.

I have done some bottom patching on 2 of my boats and used some two part stuff made for below the water line too. Fairly easy to work with. Gets very hard. I have never "finished" it off though. Might have gotten it from West Marine or Boat U.S. when I worked there.

Seems like you might benefit from some props experimentation too.
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Ross
61 Surflite 1964 90HP Johnson project
67 V163 Bayflite Super Sport  1989 100HP Merc
67 V164 Bayflite 120HP
67 V174 Crestflite Rat Rod
71 V175 Crestflite 350ci -Jet
73 GT 160
84 CVX 17  83 115 Merc
88 CVX-23 350 Mag

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Re: Hey guys......update on my CV16SS/Super
« Reply #35 on: July 11, 2010, 10:19:31 PM »
Roscoe....

It started running differently so I looked back and noticed no water from the tattle-tale so I shut her down.  I don't know how long it was running without the water pressure but I'm sure it wasn't too long.  I checked compression afterwards and I still have 135 lbs acrossed the board so I'm sure it's all good.

I think I do need to do some prop changing, but I think there's some more top end that I'm not getting as well.  I think it's time to get it into the shop and let them Sync it a bit more to ensure we're using everything she's got!
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Re: Hey guys......update on my CV16SS/Super
« Reply #36 on: July 12, 2010, 07:52:00 PM »
Good thing you noticed right away. Were you far from shore? Did you motor back or paddle?
Ross
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67 V163 Bayflite Super Sport  1989 100HP Merc
67 V164 Bayflite 120HP
67 V174 Crestflite Rat Rod
71 V175 Crestflite 350ci -Jet
73 GT 160
84 CVX 17  83 115 Merc
88 CVX-23 350 Mag

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Re: Hey guys......update on my CV16SS/Super
« Reply #37 on: July 12, 2010, 08:40:13 PM »
Something that many of us outboard owners overlook sometimes is proper 'pee hole' maintenence. And the hoses/plumbing related to such.

I experienced a blockage awhile back. Freaked out, naturally. But the Mayor of Snake Island helped me with a piece of old bicycle brake/shift cable he keeps on board just for such an occasion.

Many folks on the island swear by his skills, although I'm not entirely sure he actually posesses a Doctorate degree in urology. It's probly more of an honorary title ...

In a nutshell: Make sure your peehole fitting is clean & freshen up yer hose(s).

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Re: Hey guys......update on my CV16SS/Super
« Reply #38 on: July 12, 2010, 09:50:31 PM »
Good thing you noticed right away. Were you far from shore? Did you motor back or paddle?

I attempted to paddle but I ended up getting a tow by a good citizen on the water!  I always ask if someone needs help for that very reason, I'm glad I was able to find it in my moment of need.......
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