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Title: Ron's CVX16 project
Post by: V153 on March 23, 2016, 07:12:09 PM
Just about ready to paint deck. Gonna be Acura NSX pearl yellow. They've taken some artistic liberty on the stern. See if'n you can spot it.

Check out the transom and knees. Floor is 1/2" Plascore.

 
Title: Re: Ron's CVX16 project
Post by: V153 on March 23, 2016, 07:21:50 PM
Took a lil artistic liberty around the horn grill too.

Nice jack plate huh? Must be nice.

That's the shop dog "Dozer". He's a lot bigger than he appears in the mirror ...
Title: Re: Ron's CVX16 project
Post by: Jason on March 23, 2016, 09:41:38 PM
love the pup!
Title: Re: Ron's CVX16 project
Post by: V153 on March 23, 2016, 10:25:03 PM
love the pup!
Think they call him "Dozer" cuz he likes to head butt ya. That and he takes alotta naps.

He is a bad influence however. If'n yer hangin out bsin he want's to be right there. But when any actual work begins he want's back in the office AC.
Title: Re: Ron's CVX16 project
Post by: Hyperacme on March 24, 2016, 08:03:46 AM
" If'n yer hangin out bsin he want's to be right there. But when any actual work begins he want's back in the office AC. "

That's called a "BOSS" Doug ...

Nice CVX !
Ya'll be havin' some fast boats ...
Title: Re: Ron's CVX16 project
Post by: V153 on March 30, 2016, 03:24:44 PM
Paint job:

Sorry he only sent me one pic.
Title: Re: Ron's CVX16 project
Post by: Rdewick on April 03, 2016, 05:57:26 PM
Here is a pic of the cvx after it was painted.....
Title: Re: Ron's CVX16 project
Post by: V153 on April 03, 2016, 06:04:29 PM
Welcome Ron! (Bout freakin time ...)
Title: Re: Ron's CVX16 project
Post by: Rdewick on April 03, 2016, 07:06:06 PM
Been busy at the shipyard Doug. Got the seat pedestals glassed in and bult the shelf for the fuel tank. Will glass that in tomorrow night. Sliwly but surely......
Title: Re: Ron's CVX16 project
Post by: Hyperacme on April 04, 2016, 11:06:45 AM
Welcome to the forum Ron !
Looking forward to your build ...
Title: Re: Ron's CVX16 project
Post by: V153 on April 04, 2016, 07:22:10 PM
Spy photos:
Title: Re: Ron's CVX16 project
Post by: V153 on April 08, 2016, 10:49:45 PM
Spy pics

Wet sanding tonight. Seats and tank base in:
Title: Re: Ron's CVX16 project
Post by: Rdewick on April 10, 2016, 09:00:46 PM
Build update: installed stern eyes, 4 popup cleats, bow light, hydraulic steering helm, gauges minus fuel gauge, fuel vent, and thru hull for bilge pump.
Title: Re: Ron's CVX16 project
Post by: Rdewick on April 10, 2016, 09:02:43 PM
Few more pics.....
Title: Re: Ron's CVX16 project
Post by: Glastronjohn18 on April 10, 2016, 09:25:53 PM
Wow, that's an eye pop'n color.  Boat is coming together nicely.
Title: Re: Ron's CVX16 project
Post by: Rdewick on April 11, 2016, 08:53:39 AM
Gauges etc.....
Title: Re: Ron's CVX16 project
Post by: sledneck67 on April 12, 2016, 05:55:48 PM
That yellow looks sharp.
Title: Re: Ron's CVX16 project
Post by: Rdewick on April 13, 2016, 10:42:54 PM
Mock up of windshield, jackplate installed.
Title: Re: Ron's CVX16 project
Post by: Rdewick on April 13, 2016, 10:46:15 PM
Thanks Larry and John for the color comments!
Title: Re: Ron's CVX16 project
Post by: dorelse on April 13, 2016, 10:48:06 PM
Is that yellow from an LFA?
Title: Re: Ron's CVX16 project
Post by: 75starflight on April 14, 2016, 08:05:28 AM
WOW! that really makes it Pop with the windshield in place.
Title: Re: Ron's CVX16 project
Post by: Rdewick on April 14, 2016, 04:09:33 PM
Please forgive, I have no idea what an LFA is. The color is New Indy Yellow which is a Honda color.
Title: Re: Ron's CVX16 project
Post by: dorelse on April 14, 2016, 04:32:27 PM
Please forgive, I have no idea what an LFA is. The color is New Indy Yellow which is a Honda color.

Ah...thought Doug mentioned it was a Lexus color.  (Lexus LFA)

(http://www.autoguide.com/gallery/d/836477-3/Lexus-LFA-yellow-desert.JPG)
Title: Re: Ron's CVX16 project
Post by: V153 on April 14, 2016, 06:58:22 PM
Please forgive, I have no idea what an LFA is. The color is New Indy Yellow which is a Honda color.

Ah...thought Doug mentioned it was a Lexus color.  (Lexus LFA)

(http://www.autoguide.com/gallery/d/836477-3/Lexus-LFA-yellow-desert.JPG)
I was misinformed ...
Title: Re: Ron's CVX16 project
Post by: dorelse on April 14, 2016, 07:35:06 PM
No big deal ,  I just was trying to think what yellow Lexus ever had... that was all I could come up with

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Title: Re: Ron's CVX16 project
Post by: V153 on April 14, 2016, 08:55:12 PM
Think Ron's is a lil more 'orangy' than 'yellowy' ...?

No offense ...
Title: Re: Ron's CVX16 project
Post by: dorelse on April 14, 2016, 08:56:09 PM
Yeah, I like Ron's color choice better!
Title: Re: Ron's CVX16 project
Post by: Rdewick on April 14, 2016, 09:27:13 PM
Have to be honest, I settled on a yellow and creme white combo because I wanted a bright color that would mot get hot in the florida sun. My cousin picked that yellow and the white. Here is a closeup with a light so you cam see the pearl. Should be pretty showy in the sun.
Title: Re: Ron's CVX16 project
Post by: Hyperacme on April 14, 2016, 11:52:35 PM
NICE !

Thought he said Acura NSX yellow ?
I'll take my NSX in red ... Thank you ...
Title: Re: Ron's CVX16 project
Post by: dorelse on April 15, 2016, 09:45:17 AM
Probably.
Title: Re: Ron's CVX16 project
Post by: Rdewick on April 16, 2016, 04:12:08 PM
Bolted the motor on today, let the rigging begin!
Title: Re: Ron's CVX16 project
Post by: Oldfishguy on April 16, 2016, 04:13:58 PM

And, what motor is that?
Title: Re: Ron's CVX16 project
Post by: V153 on April 16, 2016, 04:24:10 PM
Suweet! Which prop did ya go with?
Title: Re: Ron's CVX16 project
Post by: Hyperacme on April 16, 2016, 06:40:52 PM
150 HO ... That sucker should move ...
Title: Re: Ron's CVX16 project
Post by: Rdewick on April 16, 2016, 06:59:36 PM
Etec 150 HO, mo prop yet. Going to try a few. I am going to start with a Raker 28 Inch pitch.
Title: Re: Ron's CVX16 project
Post by: Silver GT-150 on April 16, 2016, 09:00:42 PM
Nice looking rig!
Title: Re: Ron's CVX16 project
Post by: David CVX-16 on April 16, 2016, 09:50:40 PM
Might try a SRX 27".
Title: Re: Ron's CVX16 project
Post by: David CVX-16 on April 17, 2016, 07:26:31 PM
Fuzzbutt's friend put a 150HO Evinrude E-Tec on a CVX-16 with a 3" setback and runs 63 MPH GPS. Sounds like there is more top end to be had.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMAWWOKB2UE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMAWWOKB2UE)
Title: Re: Ron's CVX16 project
Post by: V153 on April 17, 2016, 08:23:51 PM
Sounds like there is more top end to be had.

There better be. I don't think Ron'll be too pleased if I can still smoke him with the Baja ...

Hey btw I looked up "Osborn", looky what I found: Note the difference in that dash from mine. That looks to be an exact copy.
Title: Re: Ron's CVX16 project
Post by: Rdewick on April 18, 2016, 06:09:08 AM
I would say you have an Osborne. It looked so similar to the one I had in the early 80's. Got the rub rail on, used the screwdriver gimmick you suggested.
Title: Re: Ron's CVX16 project
Post by: V153 on April 18, 2016, 04:02:10 PM
I would say you have an Osborne.
Don't think so. Check out my dash: No 'pod', or scallops.

Glad you got the rubrail insert in. My method's a lil tedious, but less frustrating than tryin to pull it through.
Title: Re: Ron's CVX16 project
Post by: thedeuceman on April 18, 2016, 04:10:48 PM
sorry about being late to mention this...
but for next time
if ya stick it in a bucket of hot water ya can just push it in without tools (you do need to compress it as ya go though)
Title: Re: Ron's CVX16 project
Post by: V153 on May 01, 2016, 01:12:36 PM
Went for a short ride yesterday. Boat sits in the water real nice. Rides great.

Think he's gonna have to back down an inch or two in pitch from the 28. Lil sluggish outa the hole. But it'll do 50mph @ 3500rpm.

When he gets it dialed in I don't think 70mph is out of the question.

He's out again today. Mebbe he'll post some pics.(My friggin camera was out of memory yesterday. Grr.)
Title: Re: Ron's CVX16 project
Post by: Rdewick on May 08, 2016, 03:21:21 PM
Got 68 mph GPS out of the old girl today. Still need to do some more tweaking. Not too bad for the second splash.
Title: Re: Ron's CVX16 project
Post by: V153 on May 08, 2016, 04:19:50 PM
Pic:
Title: Re: Ron's CVX16 project
Post by: V153 on May 08, 2016, 04:23:35 PM
! No longer available (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RIlC8INSc4#)
Title: Re: Ron's CVX16 project
Post by: V153 on May 08, 2016, 04:26:45 PM
Check out the splashwell cover:
Title: Re: Ron's CVX16 project
Post by: V153 on May 08, 2016, 05:09:12 PM
! No longer available (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPzZDMvMdzl#)
Title: Re: Ron's CVX16 project
Post by: Rdewick on May 08, 2016, 06:43:00 PM
Tried to post a pic of the curtain twice, I think it came out really nice. Thanks Doug!
Title: Re: Ron's CVX16 project
Post by: V153 on May 08, 2016, 06:45:58 PM
 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEVysutlJ0s#)
Title: Re: Ron's CVX16 project
Post by: V153 on May 08, 2016, 06:49:11 PM
Dunno what's up with the vids. If you can't see em just go to my youtube page.
Title: Re: Ron's CVX16 project
Post by: Rdewick on May 08, 2016, 08:17:18 PM
Yeah, I went there and checked them out. Sorry that the videos I took either did not work or just generally sucked.......

Title: Re: Ron's CVX16 project
Post by: Hyperacme on May 09, 2016, 09:38:44 AM
" Got 68 mph GPS out of the old girl today. Still need to do some more tweaking. Not too bad for the second splash. "

Ya got to be pretty happy with that !

Doug's YouTube page ...
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQl-4Y0mgk9Cg3CowOYekjQ (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQl-4Y0mgk9Cg3CowOYekjQ)
Title: Re: Ron's CVX16 project
Post by: V153 on May 09, 2016, 03:37:24 PM
" Got 68 mph GPS out of the old girl today. Still need to do some more tweaking. Not too bad for the second splash. "

Ya got to be pretty happy with that !

Doug's YouTube page ...
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQl-4Y0mgk9Cg3CowOYekjQ (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQl-4Y0mgk9Cg3CowOYekjQ)
Note Ron's the only witness to this purported 68 mph ...

Thanks for posting the link to my youtube page Gregg! 'Preciate it.
Title: Re: Ron's CVX16 project
Post by: Rdewick on May 09, 2016, 05:52:36 PM
I am very happy with that.....Doug? Are you skeptical?
Title: Re: Ron's CVX16 project
Post by: V153 on May 09, 2016, 06:50:14 PM
I am very happy with that.....Doug? Are you skeptical?
Just bustin yer stones buddy!
Title: Re: Ron's CVX16 project
Post by: Rdewick on May 09, 2016, 07:35:14 PM
Great pic, I think you missed your calling!
Title: Re: Ron's CVX16 project
Post by: V153 on May 09, 2016, 08:02:51 PM
Great pic, I think you missed your calling!
Well, if'n ya take a lot. Somethin's bound to come out ...
Title: Re: Ron's CVX16 project
Post by: Hyperacme on May 10, 2016, 09:20:09 AM
Not much boat in the water !
Title: Re: Ron's CVX16 project
Post by: Rdewick on May 10, 2016, 06:15:23 PM
Yeah, the old girl looks pretty good when it is running. Really happy with the boat. Being my first glastron I was not sure what to expect.
Title: Re: Ron's CVX16 project
Post by: Hyperacme on May 10, 2016, 06:20:50 PM
Interesting read ...
http://forum.cgoamn.com/index.php?topic=6006.0 (http://forum.cgoamn.com/index.php?topic=6006.0)
Title: Re: Ron's CVX16 project
Post by: V153 on May 10, 2016, 07:28:02 PM
Y'know tbh, and fwiw, my cameraman/men kinda suck ...

Best (only) pic I got:
Title: Re: Ron's CVX16 project
Post by: Rdewick on May 15, 2016, 07:26:31 PM
After raising the motor on the jackplate, I got 67 mph gps. Here is the kicker, I had my 200 pound plus cousin in the boat and 2 extra 5 gallon gas cans, and a large cooler with three 5 pound bags of ice, a 12 pack of bottle beer (my cousin drank a few of those, I have a thing about not drinking while operating a boat) some water, dews etc...  Easily 300 extra pounds of weight in the boat. The best thing was the boat was very very controllable at speeds over 60. I am pretty happy with todays results!
Title: Re: Ron's CVX16 project
Post by: David CVX-16 on May 15, 2016, 08:05:31 PM
Without the extra pounds, 70 MPH or more are attainable. What prop are you running and what are the RPM's?

 
Title: Re: Ron's CVX16 project
Post by: Rdewick on May 16, 2016, 04:49:52 AM
Running a 26 inch 4 blade BRP RX prop. RPM was around 5000, going to try a 24 inch next weekend to get the R's up a little more.
Title: Re: Ron's CVX16 project
Post by: V153 on May 16, 2016, 06:31:44 PM
Ya y'need to get that baby a lil closer to the limiter.
Title: Re: Ron's CVX16 project
Post by: Rdewick on May 16, 2016, 07:53:18 PM
Agreed Doug. How was the lake on Sunday? Was there a good showing!
Title: Re: Ron's CVX16 project
Post by: V153 on May 16, 2016, 10:12:37 PM
Agreed Doug. How was the lake on Sunday? Was there a good showing!
3 Allisons, an Action, and a Talon. And poor Quentin's red Hydrostream that he couldn't make run, again.
Title: Re: Ron's CVX16 project
Post by: V153 on May 24, 2016, 06:45:53 PM
New top speed for Ron. WooHoo!

At approx 5400 swingin a 24 Raker. (I told him he'd like this prop.)
Title: Re: Ron's CVX16 project
Post by: V153 on May 24, 2016, 06:48:00 PM
I would like to point out he let me drive for the first time after his solo speed run. I ran 70.8
Title: Re: Ron's CVX16 project
Post by: V153 on May 24, 2016, 06:50:14 PM
Pics: (See we do have locks in FL.)
Title: Re: Ron's CVX16 project
Post by: Rdewick on May 24, 2016, 07:06:55 PM
It was a little disconcerting to see how at home Doug was running the old Glastron....lol. And I promised I would say "you were right Doug, that is the right prop for the boat". Boat did go faster and was much easier to steer than the 4 blade 24 through all RPM ranges. Thanks Doug!
Title: Re: Ron's CVX16 project
Post by: V153 on May 24, 2016, 07:22:10 PM
I'm glad you like the prop. Think it's just about right for the boat.

Ah good, I masked my fear well ...
Title: Re: Ron's CVX16 project
Post by: Hyperacme on May 25, 2016, 09:14:27 AM
Congratulation !

The money shot ...

Title: Re: Ron's CVX16 project
Post by: Jason on May 25, 2016, 11:56:39 AM
Congratulation !

The money shot ...



No kidding. Barely even making waves. Guess need the boat in the water to do that.
Title: Re: Ron's CVX16 project
Post by: David CVX-16 on May 25, 2016, 12:35:51 PM
So a CVX-16 with a 150 HP Evinrude can go 71.4 MPH, just as fast as an Intimidator with a hopped up 350 - 400 HP engine, and handles nicely in doing so. I bet that Ron's boat can go even faster with some more prop experimentation. Heard Tom Brown went about 90 MPH in his CVX-16 with a Mercury 225 HP but it was almost uncontrollable. Tom reworked his pad, but as I understand it, would not have modified it if he had to do it over.   
Title: Re: Ron's CVX16 project
Post by: Plugcheck on May 25, 2016, 01:15:26 PM
Didn't TAZ do 87-89mph?  I will be reworking my timi hull, and building a shorter drive.  Hoping to hit 75-80.  Thought Tim hit  upper 70's last year at TI?  Personally I'd take a 20 doing 75 over a 16 doing the same speed.
Title: Re: Ron's CVX16 project
Post by: David CVX-16 on May 25, 2016, 02:12:51 PM
Video of TAZ 84 MPH

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgdsxQT8GkM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgdsxQT8GkM)

88 MPH per the owner, motor dyno'ed at 440 HP.

http://forum.cgoamn.com/index.php?topic=5050.0 (http://forum.cgoamn.com/index.php?topic=5050.0)



Title: Re: Ron's CVX16 project
Post by: V153 on May 25, 2016, 03:54:24 PM
I bet that Ron's boat can go even faster with some more prop experimentation.
Safe bet David. I'm thinkin a chopper. For now I suggested whackin an inch of pitch outa the Raker to get him closer to the limiter. (6100 rpm)

We were carryin a fair amount of fuel. Well as Ron's cooler, toolbox, etc. And his silly speakers and amp and such ...

I don't think 75 is too far fetched.

Handles great. Did get a lil squirrely once when I backed outa it too fast. But I'm blamin that on a sticky control lever ... It really is!
Title: Re: Ron's CVX16 project
Post by: V153 on May 25, 2016, 04:10:05 PM
I will be reworking my timi hull, and building a shorter drive
Smooth out the hull, and raise the X dimension. Bingo! Oh, and add hp ...

Understand Ron'n Mark spent alotta time on the bottom, and it shows. Cruises effortlessly @ 55. And the dang Etec's so quiet you can carry on a conversation. It's a really nice setup.

Way to go Ron!!!
Title: Re: Ron's CVX16 project
Post by: V153 on May 25, 2016, 04:22:41 PM
Personally I'd take a 20 doing 75 over a 16 doing the same speed.
When I win the lottery I'm gonna put a pair of 400R's on a CV27.
Title: Re: Ron's CVX16 project
Post by: Rdewick on May 25, 2016, 08:07:35 PM
Right now I am pretty happy with a 70mph boat with my regular everyday gear including my drink cooler with a 10 pound bag of ice in it. I figured I wanted to see what it would do under normal conditions. We did spend alot of time on the bottom but we did not change the design at all. We just fixed all the dings and chunks so that it was as slick as when it was made. In that sense it is original. I would guess that the boat is considerably lighter than it was from the factory due to the ceramic transom and honeycomb floor. There is also only two seats and quite a bit less foam as almost all of that was removed. We also did not put all the frilly trim around the cockpit etc.... The purists probably hate that but I like the clean look of the boat. If I had to guess I would say just the hull is arouond 650 pounds rather than the 750 it was from the factory. I really do not think I am going to try to do anything to the boat or motor to get more speed as I am pretty happy with the performance right now. I think the best part is that we still did over 70 with two people in the boat. That to me is awesome!!
Title: Re: Ron's CVX16 project
Post by: David CVX-16 on May 25, 2016, 08:29:00 PM
It is awesome for a 16 foot boat with a factory stock 150 HP to go 70 MPH quietly, without strain, without constant correction of the steering wheel, and with stable handling.

My scaled down version is a Glastron/Carlson 1987 CVX-16 with a straight hull with no nicks or scratches, without a hook at the end, running a stock 1985 115 HP Johnson weighting 302 pounds, achieving 55 MPH at about 5,400 RPM, with effortless steering and predictable handling.
Title: Re: Ron's CVX16 project
Post by: V153 on May 25, 2016, 09:27:19 PM
I think the best part is that we still did over 70 with two people in the boat. That to me is awesome!!
It is awesome. But next time @ the lake I'm drivin solo. And we're gonna take all that unnecessary bs outa the boat ...
Title: Re: Ron's CVX16 project
Post by: Rdewick on May 26, 2016, 06:19:34 PM
Whaddya think, a little bit of poor mans upholstery.......lol
Title: Re: Ron's CVX16 project
Post by: Oldfishguy on May 26, 2016, 07:09:20 PM

Looks good, but I'm partial to this kind of cooler:

https://minneapolis.craigslist.org/ank/atq/5581814814.html


:)
Title: Re: Ron's CVX16 project
Post by: Silver GT-150 on May 27, 2016, 08:35:04 PM
Me too, that's cool!
Title: Re: Ron's CVX16 project
Post by: NC_Carlson78 on May 11, 2020, 10:39:48 AM
@David CVX-16 hey David - what prop were you running when you hit 55mph in your CVX-16? I have a '78 with an '80 Merc ToP 115 and top out at 42mph @ WOT. Getting up to speed is effortless but it feels like she's got a lot left 

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Title: Re: Ron's CVX16 project
Post by: demian5 on May 11, 2020, 12:39:22 PM
Whats that steering system with what looks like the trim switch on the column.
Title: Re: Ron's CVX16 project
Post by: Hyperacme on May 11, 2020, 01:43:32 PM
Search "steering wheel tilt and trim switch"
Title: Re: Ron's CVX16 project
Post by: David CVX-16 on May 13, 2020, 08:58:48 AM
@David CVX-16 hey David - what prop were you running when you hit 55mph in your CVX-16? I have a '78 with an '80 Merc ToP 115 and top out at 42mph @ WOT. Getting up to speed is effortless but it feels like she's got a lot left 

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My faster props are a OMC Raker 22" pitch and a OMC SRX 23" pitch, hitting about 55 to 57 MPH GPS at about 5,400 RPM. You should be getting much more than 42 MPH. Try a Laser II 20 to 22" pitch.
Title: Re: Ron's CVX16 project
Post by: NC_Carlson78 on May 13, 2020, 12:21:00 PM
Thanks David!

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