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Offline Plugcheck

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Re: CVZ-18 hull rebuild has begun!
« Reply #140 on: February 27, 2020, 01:23:02 PM »
Fresh water boats don't seem to mind, besides which, the last set of fel-pros I bought now come with SS.   I guess I assumed since the OP is from New Hampshire his CVZ might see salt or brackish water.
Michael
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1980 CVX-16SS 140 Mercruiser
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Re: CVZ-18 hull rebuild has begun!
« Reply #141 on: February 28, 2020, 07:42:16 AM »
Fresh water boats don't seem to mind, besides which, the last set of fel-pros I bought now come with SS.   I guess I assumed since the OP is from New Hampshire his CVZ might see salt or brackish water.

It is a good possibility that it may see some salt/brackish water, but that would be a rare occurrence (likely less than once a year) as the boat is kept on a lake in Maine.

I'll see what the head gaskets are and look at what SS costs if they are not included - no harm if they aren't too pricey, otherwise I'm not that concerned.

As I mentioned this is a very low hour to no hour motor that was bored .030 over, so I am going to just hone it.

What are your thoughts on file to fit vs. no file rings? (the price I listed was for file to fit - yes I have a ring grinder)

I'll take the heads apart this weekend, but they appear fresh as well. Springs are cheap and easy, so considering the sit time of this motor, I'd rather just replace them.

So, other than honing, and possibly lapping the valves (more as a check), I don't plan on any machine work.

thanks for the continued input,

Scott

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Re: CVZ-18 hull rebuild has begun!
« Reply #142 on: February 28, 2020, 09:15:11 AM »
In your application no-file rings would work well. Although I check anyway.  I prefer file to fit in applications where cylinder pressures are higher, such as nitrous and supercharged applications.  Sounds like you still have a decent cross hatch with no perceived witness marks, a simple hand hone would suffice to allow the new rings to seat.  Sounds like a solid plan.   Any chance you would bring yourself or CVZ to MN in August?
Michael
1979 CVZ-18 388 CI Vortec Mouse
1980 CVX-16SS 140 Mercruiser
1979 CVX-16 Johnson 175
2002 Bennington 2275CC 90 Mercury
1985 Intimidator project
1989 Lowe 200 Redneck fishin Toon
2001 Godfrey Sweetwater pontoon 115 Rude

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Re: CVZ-18 hull rebuild has begun!
« Reply #143 on: February 28, 2020, 09:26:51 AM »
In your application no-file rings would work well. Although I check anyway.  I prefer file to fit in applications where cylinder pressures are higher, such as nitrous and supercharged applications.  Sounds like you still have a decent cross hatch with no perceived witness marks, a simple hand hone would suffice to allow the new rings to seat.  Sounds like a solid plan.   Any chance you would bring yourself or CVZ to MN in August?

Thanks for the advice.

I'd love to come to MN one of these years, but it is 1500 miles just to Minneapolis!

That isn't a deal killer, but definitely make it more expensive and time consuming.

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Re: CVZ-18 hull rebuild has begun!
« Reply #144 on: February 28, 2020, 09:39:15 AM »
Could always fly in, always a good turn out of Glastrons, and great people as well, lots of fun.
Michael
1979 CVZ-18 388 CI Vortec Mouse
1980 CVX-16SS 140 Mercruiser
1979 CVX-16 Johnson 175
2002 Bennington 2275CC 90 Mercury
1985 Intimidator project
1989 Lowe 200 Redneck fishin Toon
2001 Godfrey Sweetwater pontoon 115 Rude

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Re: CVZ-18 hull rebuild has begun!
« Reply #145 on: February 28, 2020, 09:56:04 AM »
I drove to my brother's in Dover, NH last summer...that is a haul!

Thanks for the advice.

I'd love to come to MN one of these years, but it is 1500 miles just to Minneapolis!

That isn't a deal killer, but definitely make it more expensive and time consuming.
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Re: CVZ-18 hull rebuild has begun!
« Reply #146 on: February 28, 2020, 10:20:23 AM »
There are some guys down in NC & SC thinking about a meet, but that's quite a drive also.

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Re: CVZ-18 hull rebuild has begun!
« Reply #147 on: February 28, 2020, 12:25:15 PM »
I drove to my brother's in Dover, NH last summer...that is a haul!

Dover is the midpoint between where I live in NH and the lake in Maine. I used to live there too and I still work nearby.....

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Re: CVZ-18 hull rebuild has begun!
« Reply #148 on: February 28, 2020, 12:30:09 PM »
There are some guys down in NC & SC thinking about a meet, but that's quite a drive also.

We had a small meet up here in NH on Winnipesaukee  way back around 2000.

I'd consider another one, Maybe on Sebago in Maine this time, but I need to get the boat running reliably and in the water first!

I swear - every job I finish reveals 3 more jobs I hadn't considered.... :o

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Re: CVZ-18 hull rebuild has begun!
« Reply #149 on: February 28, 2020, 01:33:03 PM »
" I swear - every job I finish reveals 3 more jobs I hadn't considered.... "

I think we've all been there … LOL

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Re: CVZ-18 hull rebuild has begun!
« Reply #150 on: February 29, 2020, 05:01:04 PM »
Took the heads apart today and everything was looking ok until the last exhaust valve  :(

It was the one letting the weather in and while it didn't show it while the valve was in, once out the seat and head really are unsalvageable

So I am throwing in the towel on this motor and going for a marine crate motor

Should I go with the 2 bolt main 260 HP or the 4 bolt main 275 HP? The price difference is under $150

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Re: CVZ-18 hull rebuild has begun!
« Reply #151 on: February 29, 2020, 05:32:09 PM »
Spend the $150.  But just because it is 4 bolt main doesn’t give it 15 more horse power. Wonder what they do different to get it? 
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1986 CV23
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Re: CVZ-18 hull rebuild has begun!
« Reply #152 on: February 29, 2020, 07:56:29 PM »
Not sure the difference, but 15 extra HP for $150 and 4-bolt main caps is worth the extra money IMHO. 
Michael
1979 CVZ-18 388 CI Vortec Mouse
1980 CVX-16SS 140 Mercruiser
1979 CVX-16 Johnson 175
2002 Bennington 2275CC 90 Mercury
1985 Intimidator project
1989 Lowe 200 Redneck fishin Toon
2001 Godfrey Sweetwater pontoon 115 Rude

Offline Scott in nh

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Re: CVZ-18 hull rebuild has begun!
« Reply #153 on: March 01, 2020, 06:40:53 AM »
Not sure the difference, but 15 extra HP for $150 and 4-bolt main caps is worth the extra money IMHO.

That's what I thought too

I think it is just a different cam, I'm going to get more info

Thanks

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Re: CVZ-18 hull rebuild has begun!
« Reply #154 on: March 04, 2020, 06:58:36 PM »
Scott.... I have been reading your saga on the boat and feel your pain! Thankfully, I only had the deal with the transom and replacing stuff on the interior. Your interior rebuild looks great ! This site has some very talented people in it ! Can’t wait to see it finished!
Chris Ambrose
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Re: CVZ-18 hull rebuild has begun!
« Reply #155 on: March 05, 2020, 08:25:37 AM »
Scott.... I have been reading your saga on the boat and feel your pain! Thankfully, I only had the deal with the transom and replacing stuff on the interior. Your interior rebuild looks great ! This site has some very talented people in it ! Can’t wait to see it finished!

Thanks for the encouraging words Chris!


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Re: CVZ-18 hull rebuild has begun!
« Reply #156 on: March 09, 2020, 07:54:47 AM »
So I was hoping to totally finish the back seat this weekend, but one of the cushion covers needs to be redone (I hoped to save it, but couldn't to my satisfaction).

Still, feeling good about ow it is coming out.

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Re: CVZ-18 hull rebuild has begun!
« Reply #157 on: March 16, 2020, 09:15:05 AM »
more progress.

The second picture is the side for one of the bow seats, I started and finished both yesterday afternoon - feels great to be past the hard stuff!

Everything that is left is mostly just 4 sewed corners and then a wrap, stretch and staple.....


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Re: CVZ-18 hull rebuild has begun!
« Reply #158 on: March 23, 2020, 08:58:46 AM »
Two more cushions done, but now I'm out of the button casings about 100 buttons into the job, time to re-order....

I'm holding out on ordering the motor until I see where this crisis is going for us financially.

I work for Thermo Fisher Scientific, and have no reason to believe I will be laid off, but Linda just started working for Big Brothers - Big Sisters as an event manager so....




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Re: CVZ-18 hull rebuild has begun!
« Reply #159 on: March 23, 2020, 10:25:49 AM »
Love your upholstery job.  Do you have pattern?   Did you buy a button making press?  Looking at making a interior close to what you made.  Great job.
1987 CVX18.     1968 Glastron alpha sail boat
1977 GT150
1986 CV23
1984 Intimiadator
1981 CV27
1969 V-180 fundeck