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Title: 1984 intimidator restoration
Post by: carlsoncvx18 on April 28, 2019, 03:54:35 PM
Found in shed north of the twin cities. As normal all wood is rotten and interior is shot.  But all parts are there cooler with lid,ski pole, super trap mufflers and center console. No extra holes cut any where.  The bad is that it has had a small repair on the bow and everything from rub rail up was cleared. The clear is peeling. Not sure what I am going to do at this point with that.  Also has factory aluminum trailer with stock turbine wheels and trailer brakes that work.
Color is Orange and tan
Title: Re: 1984 intimidator
Post by: Hyperacme on April 28, 2019, 04:04:41 PM
NICE !
Title: Re: 1984 intimidator
Post by: Hyperacme on April 28, 2019, 04:45:34 PM
Coral ?
Title: Re: 1984 intimidator
Post by: Terry_Curran on April 28, 2019, 04:52:55 PM
Coral ?

Looks like Coral to me. His bow is even MF where mine isn’t
Title: Re: 1984 intimidator
Post by: Hyperacme on April 28, 2019, 04:59:54 PM
1984 Timmi
Title: Re: 1984 intimidator
Post by: Plugcheck on April 28, 2019, 05:32:48 PM
Looks quite similiar to make 85 colors, Coral/Cream.  Never seen a Timi with CVX on the side.  Another item I noticed is the handrail on the right side as you would climb up the boarding ladder.  Kinda makes sense, but I'd guess aftermarket addition.    Appears to be far more restorable than mine was.  Would make a great project for someone. 
Title: Re: 1984 intimidator
Post by: nes-cv23 on April 28, 2019, 05:50:56 PM
Nice score.. don’t find them like that very often.
Title: Re: 1984 intimidator
Post by: Terry_Curran on April 28, 2019, 06:39:54 PM
Looks quite similiar to make 85 colors, Coral/Cream.  Never seen a Timi with CVX on the side.  Another item I noticed is the handrail on the right side as you would climb up the boarding ladder.  Kinda makes sense, but I'd guess aftermarket addition.    Appears to be far more restorable than mine was.  Would make a great project for someone.

Does/did your Intimidator have a metal flake bow? It appears the CVX on the sides is probably just tape.
Title: Re: 1984 intimidator
Post by: Plugcheck on April 28, 2019, 07:14:17 PM
No, my bow/front deck were painted Cream. 
Title: Re: 1984 intimidator
Post by: carlsoncvx18 on April 28, 2019, 07:30:59 PM
Mike do you plan to flake back with coral color again?

If so I suppose matching existing with a total redeux does not matter.

Just wondering if you checked into flake that matches.

Going to try and find a match as close as I can, because rub rail down is in very good shape.
Title: Re: 1984 intimidator
Post by: Plugcheck on April 28, 2019, 07:42:05 PM
I saw some Roth flake sometime ago that looked identical to the original Glastron coral, though it was called red something.  With an intercoat clear, you could tint to help color match.  Since there is an angle break at the rub rail, I'd think the color match would have to be fairly off to notice.  And at that, more noticeable on trailer than water.  Shoot some test scraps, see what the formulation needs to be.  Greg posted the attached pic in my "Timi Time" thread that shoes the original design on my 85.  My new scheme will be Coral again, I do like the cream color over white, I've just not decided the bow area flake or solid color yet.
Title: Re: 1984 intimidator
Post by: Plugcheck on April 28, 2019, 07:46:42 PM
The more I stared at your bow, the more I notice the bow light is set a bit far back.  Must have punched the nose and the solid color was easier to match after the glass work was done.
Title: Re: 1984 intimidator
Post by: carlsoncvx18 on April 28, 2019, 08:00:28 PM
Yes something happened at the nose of the bow.  The boat is going to sit for awhile with a lot of time to think how and where to go with the top half of the hull.  But as of now thinking the top half will have to be redone. Will talk to different companies to try and get samples of colors. Do not having to spend lots of money for stuff that foes not match. 
Title: Re: 1984 intimidator
Post by: Hyperacme on April 28, 2019, 08:14:44 PM
Roth Metal Flake
https://rothmetalflake.com/collections/metal-flake
Title: Re: 1984 intimidator
Post by: still_fishin on April 28, 2019, 08:16:45 PM
The more I stared at your bow, the more I notice the bow light is set a bit far back.  Must have punched the nose and the solid color was easier to match after the glass work was done.
If you look close the rib that runs down the bow has an opening where the bow light lays.  Mine is the same way.  It is where it has always been.

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Title: Re: 1984 intimidator
Post by: carlsoncvx18 on April 28, 2019, 08:20:23 PM
Thanks for the info on the bow light Tim
Title: Re: 1984 intimidator
Post by: Terry_Curran on April 28, 2019, 08:52:44 PM
Here’s where mine is located
Title: Re: 1984 intimidator
Post by: still_fishin on April 28, 2019, 09:56:33 PM
Chucks(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190429/6eaf6373a9ce4f13b6a7a55e5f104e88.jpg)

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Title: Re: 1984 intimidator
Post by: still_fishin on April 28, 2019, 09:59:35 PM
Mine,  apparently they are not all in the same location.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190429/b735263cb9526d731484586d0c48af2f.jpg)

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Title: Re: 1984 intimidator
Post by: Hyperacme on April 28, 2019, 10:06:01 PM
The one in Michigan
Title: Re: 1984 intimidator
Post by: Plugcheck on April 28, 2019, 10:30:11 PM
I can measure it tomorrow, but my bow light is closer, similiar to Terry's.  Might be a difference in the design?  Mine came with the large letters, Glastron, on the deck, no GC.
Title: Re: 1984 intimidator
Post by: Terry_Curran on April 29, 2019, 05:11:14 PM
Chucks(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190429/6eaf6373a9ce4f13b6a7a55e5f104e88.jpg)

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What year is Chuck’s boat?
Title: Re: 1984 intimidator
Post by: still_fishin on April 29, 2019, 05:21:21 PM
1983

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Title: Re: 1984 intimidator
Post by: Plugcheck on April 29, 2019, 09:20:43 PM
Bow light center of pad is 9".  Not many spots on my Timi look good, but here is a spot under the port exhaust that shows the flake color fairly well.
Title: Re: 1984 intimidator
Post by: carlsoncvx18 on April 29, 2019, 09:56:21 PM
Glastron must have had a couple of molds. Can not think of any thing else that would explain the difference in the bow light in 2 different locations.
Title: Re: 1984 intimidator
Post by: Jason on April 30, 2019, 06:50:18 AM
That is interesting. Seems like it's closer to the front on the white bows. 1985-1986. Maybe they did make a new mold.
Title: Re: 1984 intimidator
Post by: Terry_Curran on April 30, 2019, 07:11:54 AM
That is interesting. Seems like it's closer to the front on the white bows. 1985-1986. Maybe they did make a new mold.

My Intimidator is an 84 like Jeff’s
Title: Re: 1984 intimidator
Post by: Jason on April 30, 2019, 09:46:35 AM
huh, strange, maybe they did all this oddball stuff just to screw with our heads! The mid 80's were the strangest time for Glastron.
Title: Re: 1984 intimidator
Post by: Plugcheck on April 30, 2019, 11:38:44 AM
Engine covers vary as well, but maybe not as bad as the cvx-18 lids did.  The interesting compare is Jeff's compared to Terry's since they are both 84's correct?  Change paint/gel and badging and it becomes even more confusing.  No matter what, Jeff, that is an enviable find, I don't know how you do it.  Nice resto project.  Starting to look like CGOAMN 2020 will be the year of the Timi's!
Title: Re: 1984 intimidator
Post by: Hyperacme on April 30, 2019, 12:02:01 PM
Did you guys see Andy's Timmi just sold for $15000 !
Title: Re: 1984 intimidator
Post by: Terry_Curran on April 30, 2019, 02:44:39 PM
Engine covers vary as well, but maybe not as bad as the cvx-18 lids did.  The interesting compare is Jeff's compared to Terry's since they are both 84's correct?  Change paint/gel and badging and it becomes even more confusing.  No matter what, Jeff, that is an enviable find, I don't know how you do it.  Nice resto project.  Starting to look like CGOAMN 2020 will be the year of the Timi's!
The best I’ve been able to tell is that in 1985 the hood changed and they also started using the Glastron emblem instead of the Glastron/Carlson emblem. Something to point out is that Jeff’s production date is an 84A, August beginning of production run, while mine is an 84I, April towards the end of production run for that model year. Maybe something change during that time. 
Title: Re: 1984 intimidator
Post by: Hyperacme on April 30, 2019, 07:35:14 PM
Jeff pretty sure it orange ..
Side of console.
Close up of flake on console.
Title: Re: 1984 intimidator
Post by: Hyperacme on April 30, 2019, 07:41:06 PM
First picture is under dash.
Second picture is stern.
Title: Re: 1984 intimidator
Post by: still_fishin on April 30, 2019, 09:09:11 PM
Isn't that the console I picked up for kip?

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Title: Re: 1984 intimidator
Post by: carlsoncvx18 on April 30, 2019, 09:13:37 PM
Bahahahaha this one is smoooooth and no fading do not think it spent to much time in boat..

But close to the same color looks to be like a burnt orange color.

Have ordered a bunch of samples hope to find something close.

Title: Re: 1984 intimidator
Post by: Hyperacme on May 01, 2019, 09:59:02 AM
Some one said you could remove peeling clear coat with a pressure washer, not sure if that's true or not ?
But Sara has a gas powered pressure washer if you want to try.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/PowerStroke-Reconditioned-3-100-PSI-2-4-GPM-Subaru-Electric-Start-Gas-Pressure-Washer-ZRPS80312E/303636512?cm_mmc=Shopping%7CG%7CBase%7CAll-Products%7CAll%7CAll%7CPLA%7c71700000014585962%7c58700001236285396%7c92700010802552445&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI-6Sw4Mv64QIVCbXACh2HUQ9CEAQYASABEgIfuvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds (https://www.homedepot.com/p/PowerStroke-Reconditioned-3-100-PSI-2-4-GPM-Subaru-Electric-Start-Gas-Pressure-Washer-ZRPS80312E/303636512?cm_mmc=Shopping%7CG%7CBase%7CAll-Products%7CAll%7CAll%7CPLA%7c71700000014585962%7c58700001236285396%7c92700010802552445&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI-6Sw4Mv64QIVCbXACh2HUQ9CEAQYASABEgIfuvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds)
Title: Re: 1984 intimidator
Post by: Plugcheck on May 01, 2019, 11:39:42 AM
I'm kinda doubting a pressure washer would work, but not saying impossible.  Might just be the clear never really bonded well enough.  Certainly an abrasive might work and gel over?
Title: Re: 1984 intimidator
Post by: fireman24mn on May 01, 2019, 03:37:11 PM
Tanking poorly applied paint off many time with pressure washer or just an air blower. Makes a big mess though.
Title: Re: 1984 intimidator
Post by: carlsoncvx18 on May 19, 2019, 04:07:00 PM
Interior pulled, motor pulled and tramsom assembly pulled. Ended up breaking 2 bolts off that thread into the outside assembly. They did not break off flush so there is enough thread that I can screw on a nut and weld to what's left. Hopefully with a little heat they will thread out. Also had some extra parts laying around and made a adjustable out drive stand. Should make installing out drives a little easier.
Title: Re: 1984 intimidator
Post by: Plugcheck on May 19, 2019, 04:52:20 PM
Great progress, probably been done before me.
Title: Re: 1984 intimidator
Post by: carlsoncvx18 on May 19, 2019, 06:03:30 PM
Disassembled one of the front seats follow found out they are a fiberglass shell.
Title: Re: 1984 intimidator
Post by: Hyperacme on May 19, 2019, 07:08:56 PM
Fiberglass covered wood or all fiberglass ?
Title: Re: 1984 intimidator
Post by: carlsoncvx18 on May 19, 2019, 07:11:05 PM
Full fiberglass,  the area you sit down on is the sandwiched with 1/2 plywood on the inside and the bottom so there is place to staple the vinyl to.
Title: Re: 1984 intimidator
Post by: Hyperacme on May 19, 2019, 09:58:47 PM
WOW !
Title: Re: 1984 intimidator
Post by: Glastronjohn18 on May 20, 2019, 09:22:06 PM
The front seats on my '86 CVX 18 are the same way.
http://forum.cgoamn.com/index.php?topic=8152.0 (http://forum.cgoamn.com/index.php?topic=8152.0)
Title: Re: 1984 intimidator
Post by: carlsoncvx18 on May 26, 2019, 08:51:23 AM
Boat is finally gutted.

Started removing the tramsom cut around the outside to remove the fiberglass.

Tramsom was complete mush dug the wood out by hand total time to remove 30minutes.
Title: Re: 1984 intimidator
Post by: Plugcheck on May 26, 2019, 09:03:47 AM
Can't tell from the photo, but did your Timi have the hard grey filler between the hull glass and the transom wood?  Looks like your making good progress.
Title: Re: 1984 intimidator
Post by: Hyperacme on May 26, 2019, 10:03:47 AM
Make's it much easier when it's mush !
Must be resin mixed with filler, saw dust or glass fibers ground up .. maybe ?
Title: Re: 1984 intimidator
Post by: carlsoncvx18 on May 26, 2019, 07:44:27 PM
Mike yes it did between the filler and the hull total thickness close to 1/2".
Title: Re: 1984 intimidator
Post by: Hyperacme on July 07, 2019, 08:41:54 PM
Jeff's been busy ..
Title: Re: 1984 intimidator
Post by: Plugcheck on July 08, 2019, 10:41:00 AM
Making good progress.  Somewhat surprised you didn't go the composite route.  Planning to have it ready for August meet?
Title: Re: 1984 intimidator
Post by: carlsoncvx18 on July 08, 2019, 05:28:15 PM
Mike nope not going to ready for the August meet this year, but next year will be a the year for the timi's. 

Thought about the composite route but it lasted 34 yrs from the production line. Will do a much better job sealing everything.  it,should,last my life time and then some.

Title: Re: 1984 intimidator
Post by: Chippy on July 08, 2019, 09:59:11 PM
Congrats on the find and looks like you have done this before! Thanks for sharing
Title: Re: 1984 intimidator
Post by: carlsoncvx18 on August 27, 2019, 08:00:44 PM
Sanded the back area in between the strakes and added 6 layers of 1808 biax.
 
Going to grind out the hook on the bottom in between the strakes.
Title: Re: 1984 intimidator
Post by: carlsoncvx18 on September 02, 2019, 05:22:38 PM
Managed to get some work done on the intimidator

Did a final grind and installed the transom.
Title: Re: 1984 intimidator
Post by: carlsoncvx18 on September 02, 2019, 05:25:08 PM
Stringers all bedded in.
Title: Re: 1984 intimidator
Post by: carlsoncvx18 on September 03, 2019, 08:45:14 AM
Stringers all bonded in with 1808 and csm where needed
Title: Re: 1984 intimidator
Post by: carlsoncvx18 on September 03, 2019, 08:46:20 AM
Started installing the floor
Title: Re: 1984 intimidator
Post by: carlsoncvx18 on September 03, 2019, 09:05:05 AM
Floor
Title: Re: 1984 intimidator
Post by: Glastronjohn18 on September 03, 2019, 07:08:24 PM
You're moving right along. Nice work with beautiful craftsmanship. It seems my work comes close to duplicating the factory fit and finish.
Title: Re: 1984 intimidator
Post by: carlsoncvx18 on September 14, 2019, 08:49:01 PM
Going up.

Special thanks to Jim Barret and my neighbor for helping me flip it over.
Title: Re: 1984 intimidator
Post by: carlsoncvx18 on September 14, 2019, 08:49:28 PM
And over
Title: Re: 1984 intimidator
Post by: Plugcheck on September 14, 2019, 09:58:22 PM
You can really see the hook in that last photo.  Grind away!   
Title: Re: 1984 intimidator
Post by: catchnedge on September 15, 2019, 08:12:23 AM
Wow, way to tackle it Jeff!!!  Great work.
Title: Re: 1984 intimidator
Post by: RedOctober89 on September 16, 2019, 08:14:14 AM
Great flip! what did you use to rotate it at the rear?
Title: Re: 1984 intimidator
Post by: carlsoncvx18 on September 16, 2019, 06:55:02 PM
Used a chain fall connected to a long piece of wood that spanned 4 joists in the ceiling. That hooked to the back of the boat. On the back of the boat at the transom I cut a square hole thru the area where the cut out for the lower unit would be. Secured a 4x4x8ft long thru the transom with a piece of plywood and 2x4 secured to the floor.

And a come a long on the front thru the bow eye.
Title: Re: 1984 intimidator
Post by: carlsoncvx18 on September 16, 2019, 06:58:29 PM
For everyone wondering what the hook is on a intimidator here is mine.

The actual hook is 6’6” from the transom going forward.
Title: Re: 1984 intimidator
Post by: carlsoncvx18 on September 16, 2019, 07:00:45 PM
Position 5 and to the bottom center of boat no hook.
Title: Re: 1984 intimidator
Post by: carlsoncvx18 on September 16, 2019, 07:04:57 PM
Position 5 and to the bottom center of boat no hook.
Title: Re: 1984 intimidator
Post by: still_fishin on September 16, 2019, 09:37:25 PM
What hook......i see absolutley no gains in your future.......

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Title: Re: 1984 intimidator
Post by: Hyperacme on September 16, 2019, 09:48:06 PM
If you remove the hook Jeff .. you won't be able to get on plain as fast ..   :o :-/ ;D
Title: Re: 1984 intimidator
Post by: Rosscoe on September 17, 2019, 06:07:54 PM
You are a machine! So what are your plans? Sell it? Sell the 18?
Maybe thats a secret but I am willing to bet that stroker you've been wanting, will be going in here.
I feel so lazy.  :P
Title: Re: 1984 intimidator
Post by: Hyperacme on September 18, 2019, 10:04:31 PM
Found this on FB ..
Red Timmi with that style swoosh.
Not sure if original ..
Title: Re: 1984 intimidator
Post by: still_fishin on September 19, 2019, 07:47:04 AM
Found this on FB ..
Red Timmi with that style swoosh.
Not sure if original ..
I would bet it is an '83 and original. It has the same paint scheme as my dad's.

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Title: Re: 1984 intimidator
Post by: still_fishin on September 19, 2019, 07:49:05 AM
I would bet it is an '83 and original. It has the same paint scheme as my dad's.

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Title: Re: 1984 intimidator
Post by: Plugcheck on September 19, 2019, 08:49:21 AM
For now, that is the plan for the painting of my Timi, it follows the hull lines.   
Title: Re: 1984 intimidator
Post by: Hyperacme on September 19, 2019, 01:02:14 PM
The 1983 brochure & P.I.G. didn't have anything on the Timmi ?

The 1982 C535 had that style swoosh.
And 1983 CVX17 & Scimitar.

Is the Timmi with the blower also a 1983 ?
Title: Re: 1984 intimidator
Post by: Hyperacme on September 19, 2019, 01:47:37 PM
Owner posted about red / cream Timmi.

" 1982 CVX20 Intimidator "
Title: Re: 1984 intimidator
Post by: carlsoncvx18 on September 25, 2019, 05:19:59 PM
Removed 1/4 of material from existing hook.

Going to fill the remainder area with csm to flatten out the rest of the hook.
Title: Re: 1984 intimidator
Post by: carlsoncvx18 on September 30, 2019, 05:39:18 PM
Lifting strakes all filled in with many laminates of csm then sanded flat
Title: Re: 1984 intimidator
Post by: Jer119 on October 07, 2019, 08:54:17 PM
Removed 1/4 of material from existing hook.

Going to fill the remainder area with csm to flatten out the rest of the hook.
Its sure coming along nice!
Title: Re: 1984 intimidator
Post by: carlsoncvx18 on November 17, 2019, 06:41:14 AM
The hook is filled everything sanded.
Ready to tape and shoot some flake and color.
Title: Re: 1984 intimidator
Post by: catchnedge on November 17, 2019, 08:54:14 AM
Nice Jeff!  Looking forward to seeing the hull finished off.  I bet this thing will ride super nice & fast!
Title: Re: 1984 intimidator
Post by: Hyperacme on November 17, 2019, 09:58:41 AM
You've been busy !
How the heck did you fit a plane in your garage ?  … LOL
Title: Re: 1984 intimidator
Post by: Plugcheck on November 17, 2019, 11:05:42 AM
Maybe the plane is the engine donor for his Timi?  Might be a first Timi with a Lycoming 540?  Looks like your making great progress Jeff, probably be done before me.
Title: Re: 1984 intimidator
Post by: Hyperacme on November 17, 2019, 12:48:00 PM
Gel info ..
http://www.classicglastron.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=34&t=2209&sid=0aea445f6424f36f965974170bae0c6f
Title: Re: 1984 intimidator
Post by: GIL_CV21 on November 17, 2019, 03:07:05 PM
Gel info ..
http://www.classicglastron.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=34&t=2209&sid=0aea445f6424f36f965974170bae0c6f
Thanks for the plug Gregg but that thread has kind of fizzled out but if hes going to gel the boat i'll be happy to help if i can . Gil
Title: Re: 1984 intimidator
Post by: Hyperacme on November 17, 2019, 05:13:59 PM
We talked today about who had done gel on there boat.
You and Joe were the only one's I could think of.
His Brother-in law paints, but has never shot gel, so he was looking for tec. info on applying gel / flake.
Sent him your email address in a PM.
Title: Re: 1984 intimidator
Post by: Tonka Jim on November 17, 2019, 05:40:14 PM
Looks great Jeff!

The boat is in Fargo at his brother-in-law's hanger
Title: Re: 1984 intimidator
Post by: Silver GT-150 on November 19, 2019, 10:05:39 AM
Nice work Jeff!
Title: Re: 1984 intimidator
Post by: Hyperacme on December 07, 2019, 09:07:32 PM
Jeff's Brother in Law shot the flake tonight !
YA !  Looks sweet !
Title: Re: 1984 intimidator
Post by: Hyperacme on December 07, 2019, 09:42:33 PM
Seats ..
Title: Re: 1984 intimidator
Post by: carlsoncvx18 on December 08, 2019, 08:07:28 AM
Bottom all gelled now the fun begins of sanding and more sanding.
Title: Re: 1984 intimidator
Post by: carlsoncvx18 on December 08, 2019, 08:10:36 AM
Anybody interested in sanding. Lol
Title: Re: 1984 intimidator
Post by: Mrs.TheDeuceMan on December 08, 2019, 10:17:52 AM
Yikes! I’m having flashback of a very dusty stay-puff marshmallow man. Lol. (Boat looks wonderful).


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Title: Re: 1984 intimidator
Post by: V153 on December 08, 2019, 02:10:06 PM
Lookin good Jeff!
Title: Re: 1984 intimidator
Post by: Diamond Chad on December 08, 2019, 04:25:06 PM
You nailed the flake color!  Looks even better on the boat than in the jar.
Title: Re: 1984 intimidator
Post by: catchnedge on December 08, 2019, 06:20:57 PM
you bet, color combo is perfect!
Title: Re: 1984 intimidator
Post by: Hyperacme on December 08, 2019, 06:57:31 PM
Base coat
Title: Re: 1984 intimidator
Post by: Hyperacme on December 14, 2019, 08:18:37 PM
Looks GREAT Jeff !
Title: Re: 1984 intimidator
Post by: Diamond Chad on December 16, 2019, 08:47:10 AM
Obvious that your diabolical sanding / polishing plan is a success.  Did you start with 220?
Title: Re: 1984 intimidator
Post by: carlsoncvx18 on December 18, 2019, 05:39:40 PM
Chad

Started with 120 to take the highs off then switched to 220 to get everything flat. Then worked my way up 320,400,600,800,1000,1500,2000,2500. Then buffed with finesse II.
Title: Re: 1984 intimidator
Post by: Diamond Chad on December 19, 2019, 09:43:35 AM
That's nerve wrecking work, just enough to make it smooth, but not too much to cut into the flake.  Your arm's are going to look Popeye after that workout!
Title: Re: 1984 intimidator
Post by: Plugcheck on December 21, 2019, 03:54:46 PM
Looks fantastic, curious to know your process.  Appears to be 2-3 gel black, then 4 coats clear gel with flake, then 4-6 coats clear gel over that?  I'm just curious how many coats of clear do you need to have to allow finishing flat as you have done.    I know automotive painting better than gel, but both your work and Joe's have me having second thoughts which way to go.   
Title: Re: 1984 intimidator
Post by: Hyperacme on January 02, 2020, 10:23:03 PM
New gauges cleaned up nice !
Title: Re: 1984 intimidator
Post by: Plugcheck on January 02, 2020, 11:31:18 PM
Looks great Jeff.   Do you have or will be needing new flappers for the exhaust trumpets?   I will need a set eventually, curious to know where to find good ones.
Title: Re: 1984 intimidator
Post by: carlsoncvx18 on January 03, 2020, 06:51:29 AM
Yes I will be needing them.  Have one good one we can pattern off of.  Just need to find the rubber sheet.
Title: Re: 1984 intimidator
Post by: still_fishin on January 03, 2020, 12:23:50 PM
Buy them.  Here is a link,  i pretty sure these are the ones i bought.
 https://www.hardin-marine.com/c-469-replacement-flappers.aspx

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Title: Re: 1984 intimidator
Post by: Plugcheck on January 03, 2020, 02:29:43 PM
Certainly looks to be what a timi uses, thanks for posting Tim.
Title: Re: 1984 intimidator
Post by: Hyperacme on January 12, 2020, 05:47:56 PM
Few update pictures from Jeff .. Love the color !
Title: Re: 1984 intimidator
Post by: 75starflight on January 13, 2020, 08:31:43 AM
That is beautiful!
Title: Re: 1984 intimidator
Post by: demian5 on January 14, 2020, 10:38:52 AM
New gauges cleaned up nice !

What do people use to get the white letters painted? I tried to do mine and it was a mess as the letters weren't very deep.
Title: Re: 1984 intimidator
Post by: carlsoncvx18 on January 14, 2020, 12:05:35 PM
The gauges are original to the boat. Just polished the face
Title: Re: 1984 intimidator
Post by: demian5 on January 17, 2020, 05:17:23 PM
The gauges are original to the boat. Just polished the face

I'm talking about the white letters on the gauge panel. The stamped letters.
Title: Re: 1984 intimidator
Post by: Plugcheck on January 17, 2020, 08:47:15 PM
I need to look at mine, but I was thinking the white lettering earning about fumes in the bilge were silkscreen printed, or maybe stencil painted?  I found a way to print direct transfer lettering to mine, but I may just forgo the letters altogether.  I assume that's the white letters you are referring to?
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Post by: carlsoncvx18 on January 17, 2020, 09:16:25 PM
Oh sorry. Those where original to the panel.
I just cleaned it and sprayed 3 coats of adhesion promoter and a couple of coats of semi gloss lacquer.

Thinking Mike is right on abound stencil.
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Post by: Hyperacme on January 17, 2020, 10:06:31 PM
Chad used a stencil for his …
 http://forum.cgoamn.com/index.php?topic=6526.msg95069#msg95069
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Post by: carlsoncvx18 on January 18, 2020, 09:04:08 PM
Started upholstery
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Post by: carlsoncvx18 on January 18, 2020, 09:11:35 PM
Engine cover has a case of termites.

Ground all the stress cracks out.
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Post by: demian5 on January 24, 2020, 04:13:46 PM
I need to look at mine, but I was thinking the white lettering earning about fumes in the bilge were silkscreen printed, or maybe stencil painted?  I found a way to print direct transfer lettering to mine, but I may just forgo the letters altogether.  I assume that's the white letters you are referring to?

Exactly what Im referring to.
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Post by: Hyperacme on January 26, 2020, 10:12:13 PM
Jeff got it flipped tonight
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Post by: Plugcheck on January 27, 2020, 07:30:03 AM
Looks great, congratulations on a successful flip.  Always a bit nerve wracking when they come over center.    By the speed of your progress you should be ready this summer!   Will you complete the project up there, or finish paint/body then bring it home for assembly?
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Post by: carlsoncvx18 on January 27, 2020, 08:49:15 AM
Plan is to Finnish all structural and gel up north then bring home.
Lot of work to do on the top side. Stress cracks.
Hope to have it finished by the meet maybe earlier.
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Post by: carlsoncvx18 on February 01, 2020, 10:33:14 PM
Back support made it come down to the floor and all the way up into the upper corner hope to eliminate the cracking in the corners. Going to add blocking inside the gunnel and attach to the back brace.
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Post by: Plugcheck on February 02, 2020, 10:19:12 AM
Great idea Jeff.  I considered doing something similar but have not done so yet for two reasons.  My first thought was the cracking appears on Timi's that have proven to have rotten stringers, at least I've not heard of cracks reappearing after complete restorations.  Maybe there are, just haven't heard about them.   The second reason is foam and engine access, something I'll decide once I see the engine in place.   OK, maybe a third reason is that the rear seat design I'm contemplating will tie this corner off better and forward, allowing a center seat section to pull out or tip up for access to front of engine, fuel filter, belts, etc.    I also noticed the side to side transom and lack of stacked blocks for engine mounts, are you planning a mounting hoop as well?   Overall you are making great progress, that price you made must have taken some time to fit as well as you did.  Love the craftmenship.
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Post by: carlsoncvx18 on February 04, 2020, 09:43:45 PM
Been doing a little sewing
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Post by: Mrs.TheDeuceMan on February 05, 2020, 11:11:37 AM
The Upholstery looks great!


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Post by: Hyperacme on February 08, 2020, 08:56:35 PM
Gunnels full of spider cracks. Layered up very thin. Used router to remove all gel coat and spider cracks.
Then put five layers of CSM. Now sanding.
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Post by: Rosscoe on February 16, 2020, 07:43:45 AM
Been doing a little sewing

Did you stitch that up from scratch? Looks great!
Same colors as my CVX-17
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Post by: Hyperacme on February 23, 2020, 02:35:48 PM
Update pictures from Jeff ..
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Post by: Hyperacme on March 04, 2020, 02:48:08 PM
Embroidered "Glastron" for seat backs ..
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Post by: carlsoncvx18 on March 14, 2020, 03:21:02 PM
Ready to shoot gel
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Post by: Plugcheck on March 14, 2020, 07:05:18 PM
Getting closer!   That's a lot of work to get it to that point, can't wait to see it in person.   I assume it comes home after gel?
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Post by: carlsoncvx18 on March 14, 2020, 09:03:29 PM
Top is flaked and cleared
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Post by: thedeuceman on March 14, 2020, 09:18:34 PM
Sweet


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Post by: dorelse on March 14, 2020, 09:37:31 PM
Awesome!
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Post by: catchnedge on March 15, 2020, 06:14:44 AM
WOW, looks great!
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Post by: David CVX-16 on March 15, 2020, 07:43:08 AM
Very nice, will look like a polished agate when finished.
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Post by: carlsoncvx18 on March 15, 2020, 09:10:18 AM
More
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Post by: ScottsCVX on March 15, 2020, 10:45:39 AM
Nice work Jeff!


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Post by: carlsoncvx18 on March 22, 2020, 05:59:03 PM
Making progress one more bucket to go and take care of a few wrinkles
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Post by: Plugcheck on March 22, 2020, 07:15:55 PM
Very nice, you do nice work Jeff.  Looks better than original IMHO.
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Post by: Hyperacme on March 22, 2020, 09:41:57 PM
Getting strips and pleats to line up isn't easy .. Great job !
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Post by: carlsoncvx18 on March 22, 2020, 09:45:23 PM
Few minor corrections needed
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Post by: Scott in nh on March 23, 2020, 09:03:43 AM
Looks great! You are very talented!
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Post by: Carlson_from_Germany on March 24, 2020, 09:12:03 AM
I still regret not making the rear bench into one piece. Would look much better imho.
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Post by: carlsoncvx18 on March 24, 2020, 10:27:38 AM
Why is that Aaron. 
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Post by: Carlson_from_Germany on March 24, 2020, 10:52:44 AM
Why is that Aaron.
It’s just the looks. Would have preferred it to be in one piece.
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Post by: carlsoncvx18 on April 07, 2020, 08:27:20 PM
No progress to report been stuck at home for the last 3 weeks. 
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Post by: carlsoncvx18 on April 26, 2020, 03:40:07 PM
Put on another 5 coats of clear
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Post by: Hyperacme on May 05, 2020, 09:40:01 PM
Before & After
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Post by: carlsoncvx18 on May 05, 2020, 09:47:43 PM
Before and after
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Post by: dorelse on May 05, 2020, 10:24:39 PM
Wow!  Can't wait to see it!
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Post by: thedeuceman on May 06, 2020, 11:40:15 AM
that looks just amazing... great job
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Post by: Plugcheck on May 06, 2020, 12:08:00 PM
Absolutely gorgeous Jeff, looks better than new.   
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Post by: 75starflight on May 06, 2020, 02:28:44 PM
That is beautiful!
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Post by: David CVX-16 on May 06, 2020, 08:24:52 PM
Amazing Jeff.
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Post by: Hot Carl on May 06, 2020, 10:34:50 PM
Looks amazing, Jeff! Can't wait to see it this summer 8)
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Post by: carlsoncvx18 on May 20, 2020, 06:09:25 AM
A little wet sanding and buff
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Post by: carlsoncvx18 on May 28, 2020, 09:55:37 AM
Sprayed some more clear on Monday

All sanding and buffing done
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Post by: carlsoncvx18 on June 01, 2020, 09:19:25 PM
Bilage and floor gelled.

Starting to put things together
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Post by: catchnedge on June 02, 2020, 05:46:44 AM
Amazing work!
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Post by: RedOctober89 on June 02, 2020, 06:16:30 AM
you are doing an amazing job! it looks beautiful
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Post by: Plugcheck on June 02, 2020, 09:52:15 AM
Really looks great out in the 🌞.  Amazing restoration Jeff.
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Post by: Jason on June 02, 2020, 10:33:12 PM
Wow!
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Post by: Scott in nh on June 03, 2020, 09:13:12 PM
Very, very nice work - Congrats!
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Post by: Silver GT-150 on June 06, 2020, 10:13:36 AM
Beautiful work Jeff!
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Post by: carlsoncvx18 on July 12, 2020, 03:12:47 PM
Alive after 15 years of darkness
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Post by: Plugcheck on July 12, 2020, 03:45:01 PM
Fantastic restoration Jeff, hope to see it in August.   
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Post by: Hyperacme on July 14, 2020, 02:32:28 PM
Video of start up ..

https://onedrive.live.com/?cid=73B35DCCEE7781EF&id=73B35DCCEE7781EF%2137566&parId=73B35DCCEE7781EF%21105&o=OneUp
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Post by: Hyperacme on July 16, 2020, 10:20:50 PM
Orange shag .. Baby !
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Post by: Plugcheck on July 17, 2020, 12:07:17 AM
Period correct and gorgeous, but how do you keep it clean with beach outings.  Beautiful work Jeff, can't wait to see it.
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Post by: carlsoncvx18 on July 17, 2020, 06:56:05 AM
Mike the carpet is temporary, cannot buy carpet (covid) bought a rug just to throw in to have something there.

Trying to keep it clean will be a nightmare  probably hold about 200 lbs of sand before you would notice.

I have some 80/20 loop picked out that I will install when it becomes available there limiting it to 1yd as of now. 
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Post by: carlsoncvx18 on July 17, 2020, 09:26:05 PM
Changed out alternator now charging at 14 volts.

Took out this evening over heating issue. Which I believe was a result of a spun coupler.

So I guess the motor needs to come out and address the issue of a spun coupler and why.
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Post by: Plugcheck on July 18, 2020, 11:15:13 AM
Been sitting a long time, maybe with the rot, the coupler took a set out of alignment and it just beat itself up running it again? 
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Post by: Diamond Chad on July 18, 2020, 04:22:06 PM
Coupler between engine and drive?   I had that happen to the CVX-18.  The left motor mount bolt had worked loose.   It was still on there and the alignment was great when sitting,  but under heavy load the left side of the engine was lifting up the misalignment at speed was wearing the aluminum coupler each time.  Finally it let loose on Minnetonka, lost forward and temp started spiking.  Had to shut down and tow in. 
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Post by: carlsoncvx18 on July 18, 2020, 08:09:10 PM
Chad Same thing temp spiked stayed up around 180.  Forward try to add power it was the clutch was slipping. 

Pull the motor this morning with help from Scott Anderson 45 minutes it was out. 

Tim had a new coupler ran to Red Wing picked it up, installed motor back in the boat. 

Working on a perfect alignment have not been able to achieve that yet looking for some help.

Other than the coupler everything else is good. 
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Post by: Plugcheck on July 19, 2020, 07:06:36 AM
Alignment can be difficult complicated further by the gimbal bearing wanting to be pointing somewhere else.   Just a suggestion, but this is what I do and it seems to work well.  I start with a short piece of  pvc tubing that I sanded to fit snugly in coupler.  I then adjust engine to center that in the gimbal bearing.  After that the alignment tool can be inserted and with a few taps the bearing aligns.  Last step is using some grease on the alignment tool and checking the pattern the coupler makes.  Just curious, did you fit the new coupler on the drive before installation to check the splines match up smoothly?  It only takes a small burr to make the process difficult.  Hope this helps.
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Post by: dorelse on July 19, 2020, 03:29:41 PM
You following the Mercruiser procedure to 'set' the coupler into alignment?  (4 whacks on the alignment tool from all four directions?)  My CVZ wouldn't align either...once I did that, it went in like butter.
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Post by: dorelse on July 19, 2020, 03:36:21 PM
Here's what I got from Rich.
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Post by: carlsoncvx18 on July 19, 2020, 07:03:19 PM
Alignment done Joecame down this morning took us a couple of hours but smooth as butter now. Thanks Joe
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Post by: carlsoncvx18 on August 03, 2020, 09:33:34 PM
Tank back from tank renu inside cleaned and sealed.

Fuel line from tank blown out. 

New fuel pump and filter

Carb removed from the 18 and installed

Hope the troubles go away.
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Post by: scotty007 on August 04, 2020, 09:45:13 AM
Hi Jeff


Awesome job you have done.
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Post by: carlsoncvx18 on August 09, 2020, 04:25:31 PM
A year ago
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Post by: carlsoncvx18 on August 09, 2020, 04:25:48 PM
Today
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Post by: Hyperacme on August 09, 2020, 04:51:45 PM
Came out FANTASTIC Jeff !
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Post by: 185GXSF-Guy on August 09, 2020, 05:10:06 PM
Wow!  Awesome.
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Post by: 74 Carlson the II on August 09, 2020, 09:12:07 PM
That looks really Awesome!!! Nice work.