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Title: My new ride... '72 V-166 Starflight
Post by: catchnedge on July 06, 2010, 10:18:09 PM
I did it, back into a sweet Glastron!!!!!!!   ;D  Going to pick it up this weekend.  Needs the engine gone through with carbs cleaned, seals, impeller, possible gas lines replaced, etc., but other than that, it's basically a new Glastron!  And all original, boat, motor and trailer, with the exception of the wood map case the owner (who was a carpenter) built and installed under the drivers dash (complete with what appears to be a pipe ash tray--never used according to his son).  Boats been sitting in that garage since 1974... that's when the last registration expired.  This boat is just like the V-166 in the '72 factory brochure, gold color and I guess that's what they called the sand color interior.

Engine hasn't been turned over for 36 years... any suggestions?  Figured I would fog/spray some oil in the cylinders for the ride home.  Then do the other work before I even attempt to hook up a new battery and crank it.  Don't want to do any damage to it trying to get it out on the water too quick!

I have more pictures but I guess I can only put 4 on here?

Thanks to all who helped me reach the owner and for your advice!!!

First order of business... get'er home.

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Title: Re: My new ride... '72 V-166 Starflight
Post by: Hotwired on July 06, 2010, 10:21:22 PM
I thing a museum is missing one of its displays!  WOW!  Nice find!
Title: Re: My new ride... '72 V-166 Starflight
Post by: catchnedge on July 06, 2010, 10:39:58 PM
Thanks Chris, here are a few more pics...

Beat ya to it Mark ...
LOL

Awesome, much better Gregg!
Title: Re: My new ride... '72 V-166 Starflight
Post by: CVX Fever on July 06, 2010, 11:07:45 PM
You've got yourself a nautical time capsule there! Great find! The Hyper one has to be drooling over that! ;D
Title: Re: My new ride... '72 V-166 Starflight
Post by: Glastron_GT160 on July 06, 2010, 11:22:46 PM
Congrats Mark! ...   glad you eventully got in contact with the owner.

Looks brand new, and no doubt will bring a lot of smiles wherever you venture with it.

Don't forget to post pics on the water once you get it.

Title: Re: My new ride... '72 V-166 Starflight
Post by: MarkS on July 07, 2010, 04:47:49 AM
Awesome boat, Mark!  Looks like you get the motor freshened up and you're done.
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Figured I would fog/spray some oil in the cylinders for the ride home.  Then do the other work before I even attempt to hook up a new battery and crank it.  Don't want to do any damage to it trying to get it out on the water too quick!
Good call, don't take a chance, IMHO.
Title: Re: My new ride... '72 V-166 Starflight
Post by: Jason on July 07, 2010, 12:30:16 PM
Unbelievable! Truly does look brand new!
Title: Re: My new ride... '72 V-166 Starflight
Post by: ChfBrianB on July 07, 2010, 12:56:13 PM
Wow!
Title: Re: My new ride... '72 V-166 Starflight
Post by: Rosscoe on July 07, 2010, 05:40:59 PM
Incredible! Just like new! The motor doesnt even have any gas or oil on it. Trailer looks to be spotless as well as the boat. This must be the ones I saw posted that was being sold by the son of the owner? Very nice.
Title: Re: My new ride... '72 V-166 Starflight
Post by: wmkuster on July 07, 2010, 06:06:48 PM
  Nice!   It is real show stopper, love those aqua lift tri-hulls.  Did you ask the previous owner if he had any other treasures tucked away?  A Glaston in pristine condition is the kind of boat that you have to jump on real quick when it comes up for sale.  Good job.  I am glad that someone who will appreciate it ended up with it.  Enjoy!
Title: Re: My new ride... '72 V-166 Starflight
Post by: V153 on July 07, 2010, 10:30:43 PM
Suweet! Nice find. Best of luck! Color(s) look an awful lot like my '71 "Antique Gold & Sand" btw.


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Title: Re: My new ride... '72 V-166 Starflight
Post by: Jason on July 08, 2010, 07:42:45 AM
Suweet! Nice find. Best of luck! Color(s) look an awful lot like my '71 "Antique Gold & Sand" btw.

I personally love that color!
Title: Re: My new ride... '72 V-166 Starflight
Post by: catchnedge on July 08, 2010, 09:13:04 AM
Thanks all!  I'm enroute to get it... will be there around ~2pm today. Giving myself plenty of time for the ride back to San Antonio.  It is the same boat the son of the owner was asking about on the CGOA site few days ago.  I was able to reach  him and work it out.  AS far as goodies with the boat... they have two original tanks you saw in the pictures, skis/tow ropes that have never been used, like a part case of the old oil in those tall cans from early 70's,  original canvas cover, extra prop, two anchors, ladder, but the owner is still looking for the owners manuals.  They can always mail those to me when they unearth them.  I think that's about it, but, who knows what I will find when I get there!  Looks like there are a few in the club flying these gold/sand colors... nice!

I can't wait to find out how this 60hp performs... I don't want to get ahead of myself, maybe I'll be happy with it, but I'm already thinking later model (early to mid 80's) 90hp Mercury with tilt/trim would be nice on there.  :) The boat is rated at 100hp I believe.  If you happen to know someone who has that set up for sale, please let me know.

Hopefully my camera will cooperate and I can post some pictures later tonight.

Mark

Title: Re: My new ride... '72 V-166 Starflight
Post by: Hotwired on July 08, 2010, 11:18:02 AM
That old 60hp Johnson should be a great engine.  My brother had one on his little 14 ft Skiflite slightly over powered but was a great ski boat for a couple of teenaged boys as we were at the time.  That little boat would really haul the mail!
Title: Re: My new ride... '72 V-166 Starflight
Post by: Hyperacme on July 08, 2010, 03:14:02 PM
" I can't wait to find out how this 60hp performs... I don't want to get ahead of myself, maybe I'll be happy with it, but I'm already thinking later model (early to mid 80's) 90hp Mercury with tilt/trim would be nice on there "

My guess would be mid 30's with a lite load.
You'll need a mid to late 80's Merc to fit the bolt pattern on the transom, which is a tilt & trim  built into transom assembly and better setup any how.
Holes can be plugged and older style Merc could be mounted but you will also have external pump for tilt & trim.
Title: Re: My new ride... '72 V-166 Starflight
Post by: MarkS on July 08, 2010, 07:01:29 PM
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I personally love that color!
Uh, me too!
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Title: Re: My new ride... '72 V-166 Starflight
Post by: Jason on July 08, 2010, 09:48:20 PM
I wouldn't change the engine. It's nice to keep it with "the story". Should still be able to do mid 30's which is fine in a boat like that.
Title: Re: My new ride... '72 V-166 Starflight
Post by: Hyperacme on July 08, 2010, 09:52:16 PM
I think ...
You can mount a tilt and trim on the motor.
They come up on eBay, CL from time to time.

Looks like just a tilt ...

Title: Re: My new ride... '72 V-166 Starflight
Post by: Hyperacme on July 08, 2010, 10:51:51 PM
Maybe not ...

Trim & Tilt, Jonson/Evinrude - $399 (Malmo, Mn., can ship)
http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/ank/boa/1833161686.html

Used T&T units from older 3 cylinder & larger outboards. These units need wiring to work, will sell you a new "universal relay box & wiring" for $68. Can install, CALL please if interested, & I can tell ya if it fits your motor, (I need your mod. #). AFTER 7 PM ONLY PLEASE 651 303 7236, will sell single parts off these units also
Title: Re: My new ride... '72 V-166 Starflight
Post by: catchnedge on July 09, 2010, 10:49:46 PM
Camera is on the fritz... no updated pics for now.  Will take some later of everything...  

I take off tomorrow with the boat for Texas.   I had the bearings checked out, new tires are on, so I hope no issues with the trailer.   QUESTION:   I normally like to use a "transom saver" pole from the trailer up to the engine when trailering, but can't in this case because the stern of the boat extends past the end of the trailer by about 4" and there is no room underneath to get it on there.  The engine is too close to the ground to keep it down, I'm assuming it's ok to trailer with it up on the small latch (in the all the way up position?).  The top of the engine is pressing against a rail pretty good.  I really don't have a choice.  Mark, do you trailer yours in the down or up config?

I think you'll get a kick out of some of the goodies that came with the boat.  Few examples... Brand new red & white fiberglass water ski's from early 70s, never been used.   All the upholstry is soft and pliable... until a few weeks ago the small rail back by the engine still had the plastic cover it from the factory.  The white snap on covers and plastic is very soft and pliable as well... it's in great shape.  I found a compressed air horn by the drivers seat that has a big long bell top on it and the can says "SEARS".   Will take some pics of this stuff later on and share it with you.  Engine appears to have good compression.  The finish of both the fiberglass and seats have a green tint to it... looks real good.  

Another Question... just under the dash, both driver and passenger side, there is a small strip of very thin foil finish that is separating from the panel.  That foil finish looks good, but will not last long in this condition.  It is so thin, it may even start to tear up from the wind blowing on it on the ride home.  Wondering if there is some kind of spray glue, or something else, that can help it stay intact?  I may just have to refinish it with something.

Thanks guys!

Mark
Title: Re: My new ride... '72 V-166 Starflight
Post by: MarkS on July 10, 2010, 05:24:33 AM
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Mark, do you trailer yours in the down or up config?
My Johnson has a flip down brace (shallow water or trailering?) that puts it about half way between.  The locks on the motor catch the ears on this brace, locking the motor in that position, so that's where I put mine when trailering.   You just have to be careful going thru any major dips, uneven driveways, etc. as the skeg can get pretty close to the ground.  If I tilt all the way up, the carbs dump fuel out the vents into the splashwell making a mess.http://i978.photobucket.com/albums/ae264/MarkSmith_2010/Johnson002.jpg[/img]](http://i978.photobucket.com/albums/ae264/MarkSmith_2010/Johnson002.jpg) (http://[IMG)
Never have figured out the purpose of the knurled button beside the lock lever.  It pushes in, but the pin that sticks out inside doesn't catch anything unless it's tilted all the way up, then the "up-lock" catches, so I'm baffled!
(Sorry about the goofy pic post, guess I forgot how to do it right Gregg!)  Gettin' old I guess.
Title: Re: My new ride... '72 V-166 Starflight
Post by: Rosscoe on July 10, 2010, 09:46:00 AM
Probably too late to respond. You are on the road I am sure, but when I had my non power tilt/trim older (85) 50 HP merc, I used to lift it and stick a 2x4 in there for traveling. After some bouncing and loss of one chunk of wood, I smartened up and screwed some "eyes" into the ends and attached some lengths of chain with clips to keep if from falling out on the road and killing anyone.
Title: Re: My new ride... '72 V-166 Starflight
Post by: catchnedge on July 10, 2010, 10:54:21 PM
Well, made it 1/2 way home... in Little Rock this evening.  Trailer did just fine, other than spitting a little grease out.  I am going to have to find a better system then the big strap used across the hull in back to secure to trailer... that strap is making marks on the hull and rubbed a spot off top of engine.  >:(    I think I will eventually weld a bar across the back of trailer to use for both securing the boat from the tow eyes and for the transom saver.

Mark, your engine has an all together different configuration that this one... I'll take pics and post so you can see later.  Your flip down brace that secures is nice.  I don't have any trim, it has a small U-shaped flip up rod that raises the engine only about 1/8 (I guess for shallow water mooring/possibly trailering) and then the "all the way up" lever.  You're right... that way dumps stuff out onto splash well and engine!  I was going to use the flip up rod, and it looks like the engine has claw type clamps that will hold on to it (like if it's placed in reverse?) but it wouldn't latch down tight?  Don't know why, so I couldn't secure it that way.  Once I get my trailer rigged up for the transom saver it won't be an issue any more.  It's trailering ok for now all the way up.

Ross, I thought about using a piece of wood also... I keep a 2x4 in my fishing boat to place under the old outboard I use when parking in shallow water... it works great, but I've never tried that for trailering.  Probably would work just fine with everything tied down tight.

Thanks for all the help.

Mark