Minnesota Classic Glastron Forum
General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: dorelse on February 28, 2012, 08:23:11 PM
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No...this isn't a plea for money.
Our forums are out of date, and for a number of reasons need to be migrated to the newer version. They cannot be upgraded 'in place'; instead they need to be moved to a new location on the server and then upgraded to the newest version so that going forward we can keep them current.
(If you want all the technical details, see the 'Details' paragraph.)
I have built a test site featuring all the latest & greatest Simple Machines Forums (SMF) has to offer. I did it on an Iowa domain I own because a) its free and b) I'll never use it except for testing patches for the CGOAMN site. I needed a place to practice & play that doesn't risk CGOAMN.com.
http://forums.classicglastronia.com (http://forums.classicglastronia.com)
What we need from you:
Register, Login, Use, Use, Use.
** BUT! THE DATA WILL NOT BE SAVED! THIS IS A TEST SITE ONLY, IT WILL BE DELETED! **
Continue to use CGOAMN.com for any and all posts as you normally would. We'd love it if you'd post
the same threads on both forums for a week or 2 or 3...(click Modify on your thread, copy everything, paste over on the test site) :D
Why?
When we upgrade the real site to SMF ver 2.0.2, we can turn registration back on with the added security. Embedded videos from over 200 sites work, galleries work, added security from a Moderator perspective, forum themes that you can choose individually from, tapatalk mobile site support (is already working), and we'll be able to keep the site current on security updates.
My promise:
This will not happen to the main site until I'm 100% confident it can be done with NO LOSS OF DATA. I have no intention of risking a good thing, but, we have to get current on our security patches. I do expect that during the migration things will need to be set to a 'Read Only' mode on the current site until the new one comes up. (1-2 hour window.)
Details:
1&1 (Our forum hosting company), offers a number of services that are included whenever you register a domain with them. One of them is called 'Click and Build', which does what it says...Click 'Install SMF Forum software' and it does just that. However, when it does this, it doesn't grant our service account (ftp id) full rights to the forums software objects that its installed. Key modules are locked down as (0444) on the Linux box. Normally, that's good! However, in this case, that security prevents us from being able to update the SMF software. We don't own the objects that 1&1 installed and we can't grant access to the modules, therefore, we can't run the updates to change objects we only have 'Read' access to.
So...1&1 can do the updates right? Nope. 1&1's Click & Build feature is a 1 time only, take it or leave it (forever) install. They don't support it beyond the initial install, and they won't grant read/write/execute access to our own service account. Sound silly? Yep, it is. I spent 2 hours with 1&1 tech support during the Daytona 500 Fireball/jet dryer incident discussing this with them. While they agree with me completely, they can't/won't change it. Their recommendation is to backup the forum & delete it then build SMF ourselves (which I did on the test glastroncarlsonia.com forum site.
Essentially, I'm going to back up the forum directories & database, reinstall the same SMF version 1.1.11 using our service account, (so we own the objects), then put back objects & DB into a new installation. Then...upgrade that clean install to SMF 2.0.2.
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Thanks for your work now and in the future Doran ...
We owe ya for this one !
It has to be done guys !
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Doran is the MAN!
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jeffs haveing problems signing up hes using safari on a mac
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Well...I happen to have one of those too!
Let me check.
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I get a blank page when I try to register ... is this a trick question???
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On the sign up screen with the match the faces, he gets colored boxes with numbers, when he matches the number, nothing happens ...
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On the sign up screen with the match the faces, he gets colored boxes with numbers, when he matches the number, nothing happens ...
That's what I'm seeing on my Mac as well. So much for that mod!
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I get a blank page when I try to register ... is this a trick question???
Hmm...must be the 'Hotwired Ban' software working :) Chris - what browser/computer? Win7, Vista, XP, Mac?
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Try it now!
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Having a problem with Firefox too.
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Hey Doran,
I tried to register, and one thing I noticed is that after a single failed register attempt (invalid captcha) my IP was blacklisted as spam and not allowed to try registering again. I'm a PHP programmer by trade - let me know if I can help in any way.
-Mike
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Hey Doran,
I tried to register, and one thing I noticed is that after a single failed register attempt (invalid captcha) my IP was blacklisted as spam and not allowed to try registering again. I'm a PHP programmer by trade - let me know if I can help in any way.
-Mike
Thanks Mike! I'll let you know. SMF is a pretty straight forward piece of software, just had the spammer login threshold set a 1 failed attempt blocked you for 1 hour. There's actually zero coding with SMF, its all loading packaged scripts that modify the .php files for us...but yeah, we may need you.
I've uninstalled the Avatar Verification package from SMF, seemed to be causing all kinds of havoc for the login. Should just be agree to the acknowledgement now, entering the security string and answering the 1 challenege question...
Its working for me in the following Win7 browsers: Chrome, Safari, IE7, IE8, Firefox and Opera. Mac: Safari, Firefox and Opera
Care to try it again?
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Registration worked for me but ain't got my confirmation email yet ...
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Registration worked for me but ain't got my confirmation email yet ...
I see it registered to a i....@peoplepc.com email address? Assuming that's you Doug?
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Registration worked for me but ain't got my confirmation email yet ...
I see it registered to a i....@peoplepc.com email address? Assuming that's you Doug?
Ya that'd be me
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Did you ever get the email?
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Hmm... Still says "(my address) is a Spam, please contact forum administrator."
I'll try again in a few days.
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I tried to register this morning Doran, but "an error occurred". It said I was a spam address?
*deleted*
(I trust you guys, but if it's a bad idea to post that IP address please delete it from my post! - I don't know much about these things, obviously.)
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Doran
Was able to register this morning waiting for conf. email.
The whole registation page different this morning than last night. No boxes with numbers to match up.
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Ok...we've obviously had some registration issues. That's why I wanted to test!
I disabled the picture matching...Mac's don't like them apparently...
I'm verifying good registrations vs. spam by checking on 3 things: username, IP address & email address. If any 1 of those 3 shows up in the forum spam database we're checking registration against, we reject the registration.
Looks like a couple are getting blocked this morning on Username & IP address.
I've turned that validation off, so we're only checking against email address now...MikeB & MarkS...love for you guys to let me know if you can get through now.
And thanks very much for testing!
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I didn't have any problems.
snoop dog
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I didn't have any problems.
snoop dog
I know right? What browser did you use on your Mac Jason? Both Jeff & I had issues with the picture matching in Safari on ours.
Still haven't heard if Jerry was able to get it yet either.
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I've changed the default Theme to match the forum theme here, called 'Core'.
If you want to change theme's, just login in, Select 'Profile' -> 'Modify Profile' -> 'Look and Layout'
On Current Theme - Click on 'Change'. You'll be presented with a number of different themes and can choose one to your liking.
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I'm in now (I think) Doran.
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I'm in now (I think) Doran.
Good. Looks like your activation is complete. Glad we have that figured out.
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Just got back from Texas and tried for the first time last night.
Received nothing but a blank page after clicking registration.
So far today, it's worked very smoothly (so far) ... waiting on my confirmation e-mail now.
Thanks for the efforts, Doran !
** edit **
Registration worked. I've posted & embedded video. Working well
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I did it this morning, no issues. ;D
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Honestly...I really didn't expect the Mac's to struggle with the picture matching. I wondered if the Spam registration filters weren't too aggressive when I set it up...but...had to try it!
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Maybe I forgot my user name (Jerry) but it comes up user name not found.
I'm using firefox
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Jerry, you need to sign up as a NEW user.
Doran, I used IE on a PC running windows 7. Have not tried it on safari yet. It does work nicely on my iphone though. I have not downloaded the app but if we go that route I think it would be nice as I check the site quite a bit from my phone.
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I used Firefox 10.0.2 on a Vista machine. It took a few tries but it worked for me.
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I just signed in as a new user. It took a bit of time, but it seemed to work. Got the confirmation e-mail instantly.
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I am using Google Chrome and have been able to register .. can not log in yet though.
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I just signed in as a new user. It took a bit of time, but it seemed to work. Got the confirmation e-mail instantly.
Brian - It looks like you signed up on the 'old' new SMF test site...I have 2 currently...one running SMF v1.1.16 (which I sent you a signon link to) and the new new one running SMF v2.0.2. That is the one everyone's testing.
Use the link in the 1st post of this thread and register as a new user...see what you think of the registration process.
Jerry - No data has been migrated over. Its only a test site, you'll need to register again. When it comes time to upgrade the real site, you won't have to register, as we'll be upgrading existing users to the new software. URL's won't change from where the real site is today either.
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I am using Google Chrome and have been able to register .. can not log in yet though.
Chris - I see that you've registered...but not activated yet. Have you received the confirmation email yet?
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I used Firefox 10.0.2 on a Vista machine. It took a few tries but it worked for me.
What 'took a few tries'? Did the character string (captcha) verification trip you up? It did to me...I use the link to 'get a new image' a couple times to get an image that was easier to read.
I don't have a Vista machine to test it on unfortunately.
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I am using Google Chrome and have been able to register .. can not log in yet though.
Chris - I see that you've registered...but not activated yet. Have you received the confirmation email yet?
Made it! It took several tries to get the password to work and resetting the password once but ... all is good in the end!
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I don't have a Vista machine to test it on unfortunately.
That's a good thing!!
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I had difficulty with the captcha, too. 3 tries for me. At least I spelled "pacific" right.
I am using my Mac (OS X Lion) with Safari 5.1.3. My e-mail arrived within minutes.
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I used Firefox 10.0.2 on a Vista machine. It took a few tries but it worked for me.
What 'took a few tries'? Did the character string (captcha) verification trip you up? It did to me...I use the link to 'get a new image' a couple times to get an image that was easier to read.
I don't have a Vista machine to test it on unfortunately.
Sorry, should have clarified. Yes, I've used quite a few captcha's on many sites and this one was the most difficult to read. I went through about 6 of them before I got it. Maybe it's because I'm at work and thinking of other things.
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Honestly, its difficult for me as well.
The next easiest setting is extremely easy, so I'm worried the spambots will be able to read it...let me switch it down one and see.
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RTFI!
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Alert Alert!!! I messed up the test boards! ;D
They're done until tomorow.
Ooops!
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Test forum is back.
Put the 'cart before the horse' on a configuration change...but its fixed now.
Carry on!
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I was gonna say.... Something was up!
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Just in case folks missed it...the new 'good' test forum is up with everything from this one as of 3-4 hours ago. Please log in using your current password & username.
It should be invisible to everyone that this is a copy.