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Offline Green with Envy

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Re: Green is on the Disabled List for the first Quarter...
« Reply #20 on: May 21, 2011, 04:57:10 PM »
Starting to mix...hold my calls.

Ready...Steady...Start!

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Re: Green is on the Disabled List for the first Quarter...
« Reply #21 on: May 21, 2011, 05:00:51 PM »
First layer secured. Grocery shopping, dinner then layer two.




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Offline Jerry

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Re: Green is on the Disabled List for the first Quarter...
« Reply #22 on: May 21, 2011, 06:05:28 PM »
looks professional. The people at Express are the best. Jim is an old boat guy, and really knows his stuff.

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Re: Green is on the Disabled List for the first Quarter...
« Reply #23 on: May 21, 2011, 08:01:11 PM »
Making good progress! Obviously. you decided not to pop the top off.
So how thick will the transom be when done?
What did you do to the side of the ply against the outter skin? Just resin and hardner?
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Offline Rich_V174SS

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Re: Green is on the Disabled List for the first Quarter...
« Reply #24 on: May 21, 2011, 08:03:54 PM »
Mercruiser transoms should be 2 to 2.25 inches thick.
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Re: Green is on the Disabled List for the first Quarter...
« Reply #25 on: May 21, 2011, 08:06:46 PM »
So Rich, did you do 3 pieces of 3/4?
Ross
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67 V163 Bayflite Super Sport  1989 100HP Merc
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71 V175 Crestflite 350ci -Jet
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Re: Green is on the Disabled List for the first Quarter...
« Reply #26 on: May 21, 2011, 08:10:52 PM »
I used 2 pieces of 3/4ths marine ply with two layers of CSM in between. When attached to the transom I used Laminating Resin painted onto the transom skin and the wood and also soaked a layer of CSM in between and clamped it. In all I got a total of 2 inches thickness. I didn't replace the entire transom on mine, just the lower third was rotted, the rest was still good. You can see where the grain of the wood changes from new to old at the right side of the first pic. The marine ply has more layers than the original wood used by Glastron. Below are pics of the replacement process.







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Re: Green is on the Disabled List for the first Quarter...
« Reply #27 on: May 22, 2011, 10:18:13 AM »
Layer two completed by 8pm last nite.  Overall, the project was labor intensive, but relative easy.

the transom will be just over 2" thick.

1/2" outer hull
Chopped Strand Mat(CSM)
3/4" 7-Ply Furniture Grade Plywood
CSM
3/4" 7-Ply Furniture Grade Plywood
Double Bias 17 oz Mat
Bilge Paint

I was a bit suprised when Tomas @ Express said that I would have about 15 mins of work time with the resin, mine was still flowing after 50 mins.  Nothing like the open time of bondo that I expected.  I felt rushed with the first layer, then downshifted for the remainder of the project.

This unexpected project on Green is a good primer for when Bloodline and I dig into the GT-150

With the right tools and space to work, I'd give this a 2 on a scale of 5 in difficulty for the DIY.

Allan
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Re: Green is on the Disabled List for the first Quarter...
« Reply #28 on: May 22, 2011, 03:57:21 PM »
Lil inspiration for you'n Bloodline:
'81 C500_given away, bought back_75.1 mph
'81 Baja 15SS_140 Frankenrude_66.7 mph
'70 something SpeedCraft_(Allison 16R Clone)_69.0 mph
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Re: Green is on the Disabled List for the first Quarter...
« Reply #29 on: May 22, 2011, 07:00:05 PM »
Sunday at 7pm. Back to where I was before I discovered a rotten transom. I kind of like The fiberglass stuff!  Can't wait to redesign the float boxes and help Bloodline dig into his GT-150

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Re: Green is on the Disabled List for the first Quarter...
« Reply #30 on: May 22, 2011, 09:04:05 PM »
Nice Job Allan!

So when does the motor go back in? Are you going to install the donor engine?
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Re: Green is on the Disabled List for the first Quarter...
« Reply #31 on: May 22, 2011, 09:54:33 PM »
Thanks to all for the advice and to Jeff for the help.  The transom project went well this weekend.

Going to do some gel-coat repairs on the transom this week and then the gimbal ring and housing goes back on.  Engine back in later this week or weekend.
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Re: Green is on the Disabled List for the first Quarter...
« Reply #32 on: May 22, 2011, 11:19:30 PM »
Hey Alan ...
Good and Fast work done there,  looks great.
I got a suggestion you might give some thought, since you are right there.  
I know you drilled the mounting holes, and the drive strait through, just like they are suposed to be, but here's something I do just as a little precaution to displace trapped water in the drive cut-out.  I'm sure you noticed the transom is set in at a 10 degree angle, the gimbal housing is designed so the gimbal bearing and inner transom mount aligns with the crank shaft in the motor parallel to the keel (strait through) thats a 10 degree (down) angle from the angle of the transom,  OK,  because the drive hole is cut out strait, that creates a little water trap on the transom, directly under the exhaust port, where the exhaust pipe bolts to the gimbal housing.  I know, it's only a couple of spoons full, but it is a trap.  Two things I do, I cut out a little groove there to let the water run out of that area, just deep enough to go under the inner transom plate,  then I mix up a little resin, thinned with a some mek, and I give the whole cut-out a couple coats to soak into the wood, you may be surprized how much will soak into that wood there. Then when I mix up the next batch of resin, for the finish coat on the transom, I will give that cut-out a good bath in it.

One more thing, on the gimbal housing, the bottom mount bolts, with the anodes on them, I am sure to check the condition of the little rubber gaskets on them, and I don't put anything slick on them when I install them, to avoid them splitting when they are tightened up from inside the transom, I do put some sealant in the holes, but not on those little gaskets.
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Re: Green is on the Disabled List for the first Quarter...
« Reply #33 on: May 23, 2011, 08:17:20 AM »
Great work Alan - that went incredibly fast  :o

Jeff is the man when it comes to rolling up his sleeves and helping out his fellow boaters...hopefully the engine/outdrive install goes as smoothly. Good luck bud!
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Re: Green is on the Disabled List for the first Quarter...
« Reply #34 on: May 23, 2011, 10:50:32 AM »
Thanks for the comments and encouragement.

Red - I will make that mod to the cutout! Thanks!
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Re: Green is on the Disabled List for the first Quarter...
« Reply #35 on: May 24, 2011, 04:09:38 PM »
Started the gelcoat process last night.  Custom mixed for the off-white part by the transom.  The mixing took about 35 mins to get the color almost perfect.  I applied a coat last night and will sand it down tonite to see if I need another coat.












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Re: Green is on the Disabled List for the first Quarter...
« Reply #36 on: June 02, 2011, 09:24:57 AM »
Update

My honey do list was re-arranged last night.  Due to Mrs. Green's birthday party on June 25, I have been demoted to master gardener and landscaper.  Both boats are in the driveway pending the completion of 160' of retaining wall/garden borders around the homestead.  Landscape crew due onsite June 8 to remove sod and dig trench for the wall foundation.  I still plan to get Green wet well before the meet in August!!

Allan
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1975 Glastron GT150
1984 Searay Sundancer
1979 Glastron HPV-175