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Offline scott r bishop

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Wet Sand/Buff session
« on: August 16, 2012, 11:09:34 PM »
A million thank-you's to Shawn (and Brian A.) for having me over tonight, and to Gregg for supplying the materials.  We did 2 coats of 600 wet, 2 coats of 1500 wet, and 3 coats of 3000 wet; then Shawn buffed with two different compounds while Brian, Shawn's daughter and I cleaned the vinyl with a chemical recommended by Jeff.  It looks way better than it did when we bought it, not close to perfect, but when we tear all the hardware off and get into it I can see the potential.  The before pictures are attached... it was too dark to take the after shots when we got done...  so I guess the 'after' shots will have to wait until tomorrow night!  Thanks again to everyone in the group for making this possible (and to Brian B., Shawn, Jeff, Brian A., Gregg for the unbelievable help), can't wait to see you all tomorrow!
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Re: Wet Sand/Buff session
« Reply #1 on: August 17, 2012, 04:08:53 AM »
Makes a BIG difference when you have "the team" helping out, right!?  I'll bet that baby is going to shine like nobody's business now.
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Re: Wet Sand/Buff session
« Reply #2 on: August 17, 2012, 08:37:57 AM »
It makes a huge difference. When I bought my 18 it was faded, I didn't do the wet sanding but the results from the 3M products were amazing.

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Re: Wet Sand/Buff session
« Reply #3 on: August 21, 2012, 05:14:02 AM »
It makes a huge difference. When I bought my 18 it was faded, I didn't do the wet sanding but the results from the 3M products were amazing.

What 3M product(s) did you use?
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Re: Wet Sand/Buff session
« Reply #4 on: August 21, 2012, 06:51:14 AM »
I'll have to let Shawn answer that, it was in the traveling "bucket-o-shine", but he's the one who applied it (thanks again Shawn).
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Re: Wet Sand/Buff session
« Reply #5 on: August 21, 2012, 08:34:09 AM »
On mine and Tim's we used 800 then 1500 then 3000 wet sand, followed by 3M Imperial Compound then 3M Finesse-it II then Scotchgard Marine Liquid Wax .
We didn't know about the 3000 until we did Tim's boat, after doing mine with 800, 1200, compounding, FI2 it looked pretty good but Tim's looked WAY better, so I redid mine with the 3000, compounding and FI2, wax and looks pretty good now.

The 3000 is the KEY to a GREAT shine !

3M Marine Professional Gelcoat Finishing System


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http://solutions.3m.com/wps/portal/3M/en_US/Marine/Home/?WT.mc_id=www.3m.com/US/auto_marine_aero/marine/




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Re: Wet Sand/Buff session
« Reply #6 on: August 21, 2012, 10:13:06 AM »
It makes a huge difference. When I bought my 18 it was faded, I didn't do the wet sanding but the results from the 3M products were amazing.

What 3M product(s) did you use?

I used 3M Super Duty Rubbing Compound, Finesse-it II and a carnauba wax.
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Re: Wet Sand/Buff session
« Reply #7 on: April 22, 2015, 01:16:05 PM »
I am going to be doing this to Phoenix starting next week I hope. I am ordering everything I need today, but there are so many choices with buffing and compounding pads. My question is which ones do you guys use? If you remember.
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Re: Wet Sand/Buff session
« Reply #8 on: April 22, 2015, 02:31:10 PM »
Wool for coumpounding, black foam for glaze.
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Re: Wet Sand/Buff session
« Reply #9 on: April 22, 2015, 04:00:02 PM »
Brandon

What are you using for a buffer?

You want to use a variable speed on the lowest setting .
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Re: Wet Sand/Buff session
« Reply #10 on: April 22, 2015, 04:57:42 PM »
Brandon

What are you using for a buffer?

You want to use a variable speed on the lowest setting .

Thats the plan Jeff. going to see if I can find one at menards tomorrow.

This is what I am looking at

http://www.menards.com/main/tools-hardware/power-tools-accessories/sanders/performax-reg-7-sander-polisher/p-2724164-c-10088.htm
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Re: Wet Sand/Buff session
« Reply #11 on: April 22, 2015, 05:12:07 PM »
That should be fine. I'm not sure about that wool. You may have to go to a parts store that mixes paint and get a good wool, a white foam, and a black foam. Be careful to long in one spot and you can burn through the clear. Have fun.
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Re: Wet Sand/Buff session
« Reply #12 on: April 22, 2015, 08:03:08 PM »
Did this to my boats. Results are amazing and worth the effort. Napa sells the 3m buffing pads and compounds.
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Re: Wet Sand/Buff session
« Reply #13 on: April 22, 2015, 09:42:51 PM »
Napa sells the 3m buffing pads and compounds.

I have seen your work Jason and it looks good.
Unfortunately my Napa is an order only store and charges a lot of freight. Heck, up until a year ago they didn't even come up on the Napa store locator.
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Re: Wet Sand/Buff session
« Reply #14 on: April 22, 2015, 10:29:21 PM »
You could always pick that stuff up on your way to Rathbun, Brandon...even though I know you want Phoenix shining bright when you come.

We have a very nice locally owned detail shop near by as well...I could easily pick up, and ship any order over your way.  Google 'Prevettes'...I'm sure there's similar shops in Omaha and/or Lincoln.

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Re: Wet Sand/Buff session
« Reply #15 on: April 23, 2015, 07:40:38 AM »
There are numerous locations in Omaha to get what you need, Redshaw, JD Casey, even O'Reilleys.  Even more online.  Could be an excuse to come help with the interior on the Z.  Let me know if I can help.
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Re: Wet Sand/Buff session
« Reply #16 on: April 23, 2015, 08:27:17 AM »
which step is "Glaze"?  is that after compound and before wax?
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Re: Wet Sand/Buff session
« Reply #17 on: April 23, 2015, 09:38:17 AM »
Thanks guys for the info.
Ordered everything online ( i like to price shop) most over ebay and some from west marine.
No shipping charges on all of it, and everything less than I can pick up at my oreillys, which is just amazed when I go and order marine parts. Of course the people that work there aren't the brightest.
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Re: Wet Sand/Buff session
« Reply #18 on: April 23, 2015, 11:04:24 AM »
" which step is "Glaze"?  is that after compound and before wax? "

Yes ... after compounding and before wax ...
Stuff is weird, dries out fast and kind of burns, had to redo, all the way back to wet sanding in two spots on my deck.
Did smaller areas and it seemed to work better ...

I used  "3M Finesse-It II ".

Use with a machine polisher to revitalize old, dull, abused, or neglected paints.
Designed for use with a machine polisher.
Reduces moderate paint defects while creating a swirl-free shine.
Leaves the paint looking great.


3M Finesse-It II Machine Polish is a designed to be used with a high speed polisher or high-powered random orbital polisher. It removes moderate to light defects such as swirl-marks, light scratches, light oxidation, and dull paint. 3M Finesse-It II Machine Polish does contain some light filling agents so inspect your work to make sure you achieving the results this fine polish is capable of. Follow with your favorite wax or sealant

http://www.autopia-carcare.com/3m-finess-it-machine-polish.html?productid=3m-finess-it-machine-polish&channelid=FROOG&utm_source=CSEs&utm_medium=GoogleProductSearch&utm_campaign=CSE&gclid=CNqJ2IXkjMUCFQ6OaQoda4YApg#.VTkVARt0xAg

There's is a marine version ...

http://www.amazon.com/3M-35928-Finesse-Marine-Glaze/dp/B000XBJ61U


Brandon ...
Regular gel is pretty easy to do, compound off the layer of oxidation and shine it up ...




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Re: Wet Sand/Buff session
« Reply #19 on: April 23, 2015, 11:50:10 AM »
Honestly, I think the sanding and buffing will be the easy part. The pita with be removing all of the snaps off the upper part of the hull.
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