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Offline dorelse

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Sometimes...there's someone up there watching out for me!
« on: September 19, 2012, 09:37:37 PM »
So...got the tank cleaned.  Marine Clean + hot water = very clean tank... w/4 leaks!  Holy cow.  If not for all the varnish on the tank...I could have had some real problems...only thing between me and gas in the bilge was the varnish!

Whew.  Its time to ditch the aluminium and get a plastic one.  There's quite a bit of corrosion in the metal...something got to it!

Jerry - Would you trust sealing this up?  Not sure I do...







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Offline Terry_Curran

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Re: Sometimes...there's someone up there watching out for me!
« Reply #1 on: September 19, 2012, 09:43:49 PM »
'lil bit of JB WELD would take care of that Doran.  Not sure why you're so fast to pull the trigger on a plastic one?  J/K Doran, glad you found it while out of the boat instead of out on the water. 

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Re: Sometimes...there's someone up there watching out for me!
« Reply #2 on: September 19, 2012, 09:53:07 PM »
if you give the dimensions and a photo of the filler location i can check the one in that cobalt the motor is coming out of.
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Re: Sometimes...there's someone up there watching out for me!
« Reply #3 on: September 19, 2012, 10:13:47 PM »
Doran... go plastic! think about it... only takes a VERY small piece of ANYTHING to clog a jet or line, create a lean situation, and trash your fresh motor. No warning. Done. Filter it if you want to, but that's temporary, it'll get ya. Plastic! save the powerplant!  ;D
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Offline dorelse

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Re: Sometimes...there's someone up there watching out for me!
« Reply #4 on: September 19, 2012, 10:16:14 PM »
Doran... go plastic! think about it... only takes a VERY small piece of ANYTHING to clog a jet or line, create a lean situation, and trash your fresh motor. No warning. Done. Filter it if you want to, but that's temporary, it'll get ya. Plastic! save the powerplant!  ;D

Yeah...after seeing the corrosion...I just can't see trusting it.  A new plastic one is the only way to go.  Its too serious not to.

Plus...$300 to seal the tank, $120 in Gas just to take it and pick it up, I'm $420 in already...probably 1/2 way there (or more) to a new tank.
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Offline Jerry

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« Reply #5 on: September 19, 2012, 10:36:28 PM »
That looks nasty. ya gotta do what ya gotta do.
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Re: Sometimes...there's someone up there watching out for me!
« Reply #6 on: September 19, 2012, 10:47:07 PM »
Thanks Jerry.  

Joe - here's the tank.  Filler location is Port side towards the bow.  Dimensions are 81" L x 19" W x 5" D (Max Depth)



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Offline WetRaider

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Re: Sometimes...there's someone up there watching out for me!
« Reply #7 on: September 20, 2012, 07:09:14 AM »
Oh man, Doran.  Glad that was discovered before having some major issues.

I wouldn't hesitate on the plastic tanks ... if you can find one with the right dimensions.  I took a quick look and can't find a below deck tank with your shape that is less than 7.88" deep ...
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Offline Jerry

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Re: Sometimes...there's someone up there watching out for me!
« Reply #8 on: September 20, 2012, 08:56:10 AM »
Doran, ya might give Tank ReNu a call and talk to them.
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Re: Sometimes...there's someone up there watching out for me!
« Reply #9 on: September 20, 2012, 09:12:55 AM »
From a "chronic do-it-yourselfer"  :o
you can buy the KREEM product, it dosent that hard to do. J&P cycles handels it (on a side note i designed and installed the controls for their distribution center)
or have patches welded in if the bad spots are localized (i have been known to do some tig welding) ;D
i will let you what the tank i have looks like on Sunday.
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Re: Sometimes...there's someone up there watching out for me!
« Reply #10 on: September 20, 2012, 09:31:47 AM »
I would go with plastic too. Just looks like a custom made tank to me where it will be nearly imppossible to find the correct size tank. I am worried you would need to have a new aluminum tank cutom made to match the old.

I don't know of anyone else that makes the plastic tanks other than Moeller / Tempo and they don't have a direct fit. If you can put in somthing wider you might make something work. http://www.moellermarine.com/aftermarket/fuel_storage_tanks/permanent_tanks/
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Offline dorelse

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Re: Sometimes...there's someone up there watching out for me!
« Reply #11 on: September 20, 2012, 09:39:18 AM »
I'm planning to call Moeller and see what they think.  I know they can make almost any shaped tank on the fly based on their manufacturing process.  Others have had it done on iboats.

The tank itself cleaned up really nicely.  All the varnish is gone and all the debris is washed out, I'd feel very comfortable with putting it back in and running the boat with it.

However, with the corrosion...I'm concerned with weak spots.  The one leak appears to have been punctured by one of the pieces of junk that was under the tank.  (I found several old rusty screws and other junk sitting under the tank when I pulled it out.)

If all else fails, I'll get the tank lined, and then have the exterior Line-X'd to protect it from any future corrosion and/or damage.

(Lining might prove difficult as I've discovered the tank has baffles in it.)

And if that fails, I'll put a new tank under the bench seat and use the space in the floor for storage...which is exactly how my '96 Glastron was set up.
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Re: Sometimes...there's someone up there watching out for me!
« Reply #12 on: September 20, 2012, 01:02:47 PM »
Hey Doran i will check with my brother he made the tank for the 66 out of stainless steel and the machine to bend it. The new tank was perfectly the same size and shape as the old one.

I will put a call into him and ask if you want me too.

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Re: Sometimes...there's someone up there watching out for me!
« Reply #13 on: September 20, 2012, 01:05:13 PM »
Hey Doran i will check with my brother he made the tank for the 66 out of stainless steel and the machine to bend it. The new tank was perfectly the same size and shape as the old one.

I will put a call into him and ask if you want me too.

Tom

Thanks Tom, I'll keep that in mind if the need arises!  Good to know!
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Re: Sometimes...there's someone up there watching out for me!
« Reply #14 on: September 20, 2012, 08:15:44 PM »
Looks pretty crappy. Yea, I would think it would be nearly impossible to get another that size.
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Re: Sometimes...there's someone up there watching out for me!
« Reply #15 on: September 20, 2012, 08:44:48 PM »
Yep, and the bottom of the tank isn't uniform, it narrows on the bottom from bow to stern. 

Didn't get time to talk to Moeller today, gonna try tomorrow.
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Re: Sometimes...there's someone up there watching out for me!
« Reply #16 on: September 23, 2012, 08:13:54 AM »
I pulled this tank out yesterday, along with the motor for Brandon and various goodies.
the tank was over half full  :), so bonus i filled my V8 explorer (gas hog).
from what i could see through the sending unit opening the inside is shiny and clean, outside looks solid.
the bottom seems to be coated with an oily substance  ???
size is 21" (at the top) x 48" x 7 1/2", and its capacity is 28 gal.
if you're interested, and don't think you could make the configuration work as is, i would be willing to move the fittings for you.
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Re: Sometimes...there's someone up there watching out for me!
« Reply #17 on: September 23, 2012, 10:27:48 AM »
Bummer Joe.  Its too wide & too deep...the tank has to fit between the stringers, and I don't have 21" to play with...20" would work, but not 21".

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Re: Sometimes...there's someone up there watching out for me!
« Reply #18 on: September 23, 2012, 09:51:41 PM »
I might be interested in that tank joe, what do you want for it?  I should know in a month or so...need to make some more progress on my projects.

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Re: Sometimes...there's someone up there watching out for me!
« Reply #19 on: September 24, 2012, 09:36:54 PM »
well... i was gonna say $50, this dude had his for $95 (i refuse to ask inflated CL prices)
but he dropped his price to $25 so i guess 25 it is. his are different size may want to check them out too.
http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/dak/boa/3251647717.html
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